Re: New Mature Runners Thread
Damien - was going to say hope the winds didn't slow you down too much at parkrun yesterday but then saw you got a new PB!
Aquarius - as I mostly run around the streets, my Garmin doesn't usually have any issues with picking up the satellite signals. As you know, HS and I use Garmin Connect & Fetcheveryone to record our runs. You said your last run matched the route when you downloaded it - just wondered what you use to record yours? Was wondering about the possibility of connecting with you if its a website I also use (shan't be offended if you'd rather not! Maybe send me a private message with the details if you'd be okay with that rather than broadcast it on here). With such a large group of Thursday runners, there's often a free drink at the end as buying birthday drinks is a 'thing' we do. I have to say, I know nothing at all about fuel cells - I'll do some limited research first before I decide if its a subject I think I could talk about. Yes, the system of everyone (or most?) taking a turn to present on a subject we've all indicated we're interested in (via a tick-list of proposed subjects) means we share the work of researching/presenting. Sorry to hear your parkrun was slow - no doubt due to not feeling 100%
Molly - sorry to hear your tendon is still a bit sore.
I ran earlier (4.35ml). My right knee was 'twingeing' a bit in the first mile .. felt a bit like I couldn't put weight on it properly .. but I kept going and whatever it was that was going on, went away. The run didn't feel anything special but on my return I was delighted to see my avg pace was back down to 10:47mm and apart from the first slower mile which is uphill, I impressed myself with my metronomic 2nd, 3rd & 4th miles (11:23 10:37 10:36 10:37 3:41)
My heart-rate didn't record properly again - the chest strap definitely needs a new battery! Or I need a new chest strap!!
In other news, my daughter-in-law announced on FB she's just finished the 'Couch To 5K' programme .. she'd only told her husband and her daughters, and only then after five weeks .. and is now planning to do the local parkrun. She is actually built like a runner (tall, slim, athletic-shape) but has previously never expressed any interest in running.
Re: New Mature Runners Thread
I've a lot of catching up to do. It seems that when I miss a day or two, everyone enters lots of posts.
Molly, thanks, I had a really nice time at my birthday bash. I got lots of presents including a framed photo of Sarah F and me taken during the recent New Forest Half Marathon. I didn't know it had been taken, but it is very good, better than the official photos which are usually very poor. I might post it on here if anyone is interested.
I see that you tried some speed work which unfortunately has aggravated your Achilles again. If you ran on the treadmill today, I hope it didn't cause any further problems to your tendon.
WtnMel, thanks I did enjoy my birthday celebrations and my sister did drive me home!
I suppose a draw with your friend Alan was a good result at the end of the season.
I also start a run or race steadily and then speed up. It was the opposite when I was at my best, where I used to start off fast and then try to hang on to it.
Well done to your daughter in law completing the couch to 5k programme. Hope she does well in her first parkrun.
Well done for this mornings run. That's very impressive, your miles 2,3,and 4 being so consistent.
Damien, congratulations on your pb for the parkrun.
Aquarius, thanks, as I've said above, I had a really nice time at my birthday bash and was really spoilt with lots of presents.
Sorry to hear that your parkrun was so disappointing for you. We all have days like that though, my parkrun before last being a case in point. 152bpm hr up a hill seems perfect to me. It is bound to increase as more effort is needed for the climb.
Hope I haven't missed anything out, but there was a lot to digest.
I ran 5 miles on Saturday and it was so cold that I considered that was far enough. I ran 7.3 miles this morning at tempo pace and felt really strong. It was bright and mild, but very windy. It was hard running into the wind round the Marina. I had to hold on to my cap to stop it blowing away into Southampton Water.
Re: Overdone it?
Wow, that's no easy job to win that race, Muddy. Congrats! Looks like they should have given you the 5m prize as well!
So Telford 10k;
i went out with a plan to run just under 6.10mm pace to bank a pb. i did my dd and Telford always comes up around 6.18m on gps so 6.10 pace would be there, anything faster and I'd be pushing sub 38. Stuck to plan pretty solidly with splits of 6.05, 6.06, 6.05, 6.10, 6.09, 6.12 then 6.09 for average pace of 6.08. I looked at my watch expecting to see around 38.10 but was dismayed to see 38.22, having clocked 6.26m
Second fastest 10k and 4s off pb. So frustrated and annoyed with self as i had it in me, i just didn't think i needed to take any chances by pushing harder.
I probably lost it on the switchbacks at around 2.5 and 5m. The 5m one in particular was difficult to pick back up from.
i think it might give me a new wava, 75.74 on howard grub calc.
That got me 364th place such is the depth of the field where the top 5 were sub 29 and top 16 sub 30.
Re: Overdone it?
I have a pb to report over 10 miles ! I managed to win the Sneyd Pudding Run in 57:57. Who knows where all the good runners where ? I'm pleased with that considering how windy it was, and after a desultory three quarters of a mile warmup. The race includes a 5 mile race over one of the laps so it was a bit surprising to find myself in 3rd place overall after half a mile. I was running within myself so decided to push ahead of the two in front. I sensed them coming with me but after 3 miles it sounded pretty quiet behind. I was glad of that as I was working pretty hard against the wind and wanted to ease off a bit So got through the 5 mile timing mats at 28:30 and realised I had a stitch and wondered if it would ruin my chances of holding the lead. Found out later that the two behind were in the 5 mile race so I needn't have worried. Stitch slowed me up for the next couple of miles when I started lapping people and dancing on and off the narrow footpaths into the road. Finally hit the glorious downhill final kilometre out of the wind and realised I might still sneak a pb as well as the win so absolutely hammered it down to the finish, and did
Re: Moraghan Training - Stevie G
My 10 miler race went well today with all the good runners being at Telford. I managed a small pb of around 25s to finish in 57:57. Babysitter was late so I arrived with not a lot of time to spare, got my number on and did around 5 mins of warmup, which wasn’t enough. Even with the cold-ish start the first mile was a bit too much at 5:20 (slight downhill) and worryingly positioned me at the front of both the 5 mile and 10 mile races. I won the 5 mile race in 28:30, then started to feel a stitch, got to the next bend and had a look over my corner at the long straight behind me and no one was around, so I relaxed and eased off a bit. The mid section of the loop was pretty exposed, uphill and the wind slowed me to over 6 min/mile for a couple of miles, but the loop finished with a great downhill kilometre to the finish. I felt I was in with a sniff of my pb based on the first 5 miles so really pushed the final kilometre.
Prize was a voucher for a free pair of Altra shoes. Shame they are not my thing but will see if I can get something that might resell ...
Re: New Mature Runners Thread
HS -a belated happy birthday for yesterday, I hope you had a great night out with your sister and club mates. Your Dibden Doddle run on Thursday sounds very cold and hard work, so well done to you all for completing it.
I think I’ll follow your example regarding checking my heart rate (taking the pulse in my neck for 15 seconds and multiplying by 4) and see what that tells me.
Damien, excellent result today in windy conditions. Congratulations on another PB!
Molly - it wasn’t overcast for my run on Thursday but I did run amongst a lot of trees (the route is tree lined on both sides, and in some places it passes through woods). I've noticed before that anything that could block the signal (trees, tall buildings etc) makes my Garmin go a bit haywire, and often it either can’t get the satellites at all, or shows me as running somewhere one side or the other of my actual route. However on Thursday the route it downloaded when I got home did fit my actual route, at least once it had started recording properly. I suppose I’ll just have to keep an eye on it. Now you mention it I remembered that sometimes Garmin shows my fastest pace in a particular mile as being around 3 minute miles. Perhaps we shouldn’t take the data too seriously, and like HS try to run by feel rather than data.
What is the weather like where you are? Have you managed to get out with Nikko for a run? I hope your achilles hasn’t given you any problems after your interval session, I think you are very sensible to wait a week or two before trying another one.
WtnMel what a lovely photo, everyone looks like they are having a good time. Nice of Zippy to treat you all to drinks for her birthday. Glad you had no issues with your new shoes.
What exactly do you know about fuel cells, and how much will you need to research? I don’t think I could be brave enough to take that challenge on, but much respect to you if you do. Actually, I think it’s rather nice that it works that way (everyone taking a turn to present a topic) I suppose it puts everyone on the same footing and creates a sort of bond amongst the group.
A good outcome as you say for the golf since the weather was so dire.
A very disappointing parkrun for me today. It was my slowest ever I think, certainly the slowest for this particular parkrun. I knew as soon as I started to run that I was struggling, I just had no energy and my legs were still heavy and sore from a physio session yesterday. My breathing was heavy and laboured too, probably as I’ve a bit of a cold and the sniffles. Maybe if I’d picked a flatter parkrun I might have managed a bit better, but I still don’t think it would have been very fast due to having no energy. I’ll have to write it off as a bad day at the office, and hope for better next time. I’ve a 5k on Tuesday night at the coast, so I think I’ll take it easy until then and hope my energy levels improve. (One positive though, there’s quite a bit of uphill in this parkrun and I checked my heart rate near the top of one of them. It was 152, I know that’s still quite high but considering it was a hill, plus how I was feeling, I’m fairly happy with that.)
Re: Moraghan Training - Stevie G
Iower -I call it "threshold" to stop people boring on about my use of "Marathon pace", a terminology relating to 10-15secs slower than HMP rather than what your output in a marathon would necessarily be.
But to be clear, "threshold" for this sort of session is not 10mile pace, but instead involves Daniels' use of the word threshold. For him, the pace changes, whether you're doing reps, or a continuous run.
So I don't want to give the impression I've done a 2.5mile run at true Threshold, which is certainly a brutal offering
High winds and wet sounds a right old miserable experience.
Somehow added in high humidity and it'd be a nightmare!
Re: My Last Run
You'll be fine with 10 miles, Malteser (so long as you don't try to go too fast, eh?)
Yesterday was one of those days where I couldn't bring myself to do anything at all, so I ran today instead. 8 miles easy, which was mostly OK - I wanted to do some strides in the last mile but the gusts of wind were freaking me out so it was all a bit half-arsed. Never mind. 5K track race tomorrow - hope I can manage a decent time. Despite being on a nice, flat track, I've never managed to run as fast there as I have in my best parkruns, though that could be because it comes at the end of the year when I'm all raced out. There's mulled wine, anyway.
Re: Overdone it?
I was curious about my mileage for this year after DT's comments. I thought it might be bit rubbish but it's looking like it will be similar to other years at ~2000 miles:
Avg Elevation Gain
Average Heart Rate
You can see the aerobic and efficiency gains through the years as av. training speed rises and av. heart rate goes down.
Re: Sub 3
the tier 1 entry for Valencia was already sold out by the time I checked last night (about 9:30pm) so the entry was up to 88 Euros. I'll hold fire for another year. Happy birthday for Monday & good luck in your final MV50 race.
Loving the jokes chaps
Yep that's the one
. It was posted on P&D thread a week or 2 back. An excellent analysis.
Steady 10K along the canal first thing then a 4M with 8x100m strides followed by 6x400m off 100m walk (45s). I kept the effort in check slightly on the 400s as I'm racing this w/e. Definitely starting to feel the benefits of regular mileage combined with some short rep sessions
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