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Responding to Rover on irregular training and racing paces...hard for me to answer without knowing what you input to SC. No way you should have been able to do tempo runs at 50 seconds per mile faster than recommended. And the interval days should have been quite demanding also.
You got the PB anyway but are disappointed that you didn't run even faster??? Okay, I'm a little confused, sorry. I can only suggest that you do another good buildup to your next race, and I hope you have another PB.
Try several different inputs on SC just to be sure you're getting the precise one you want. Oh, and SC does believe you can run faster than expected on race day with taper, fluid stops, competiton...all the good stuff.
Responding to heraroja...SC has received other queries like this. I don't think SC will be producing ultra running programs for some time. I'm not sure there's much science to ultra running. Just putting in the time/distance.
But you raise a VERY important point about hills. I think hills can be a big factor in training programs, and in improving race times.
Of course, every hill in the world is a different length and incline--as opposed to standard 400m training tracks--so SC doesn't really know how to give hill advice.
But run hills, run hills, run hills. They improve power, strength, economy, just about everything.
Responding to Rover Queen about 80 percent paces...well, I guess I would say that an 80 percent pace tells your body it still has 20 percent in reserve for going faster. I don't mean that to be a smart-ass answer. MUCH research has shown that endurance athletes in different sports all do about 80 percent of their training at an easy, relaxed pace. Yet they can compete much faster.
That's because they reserve 20 percent of their training for more specific, and often faster paces. This is what SmartCoach does too.
Most runners don't have to worry that they're doing too much easy, slow running. They might have to worry that they're running too fast on easy days. And also that they're not doing enough tempo and interval running at appropriate paces.
Thanks for joining in the discussion...I gotta go off to my real job.
Good luck with all your training. I hope you keep using SmartCoach, and discussing the outcome on your Forums.
then on race day i'm expected to do 8.06 per mile for 13.1 - what i'm saying is should i not be training at race pace?
Quick question here.. im a metric man... is there anyway to change the settings displayed in the training program from minutes per mile to minutes per km?
(other than manually altering each pace calculation?)
I havnt used these schedules before, they look very good, except that we train on Tuesdays and Thursdays at club. The schedule says run easy on Tuesday - but no one will do their speedwork on their own, so it has to be on Tues, with long run on Thursday. Can the schedules be amended to take account of club races and club training nights? I imagine that loads of other runners have the same dilemma.
Daniel, I sent you an email with a few questions re smartcoach and Garmin schedules. Did you get it? Will you respond direct to me or post a response here?
toddytyke-i dont think anybody uses this thread now if you look at the dates of the last posts, shame really i could have done with some answers
I put in the time for my last marathon (3h 22m) and a 'hard' training prog and the schedule it gave me was laughably under mileage every week, I'd be lucky to run to the end of my street by the end of it. It seems to ask all the wrong questions (i.e. 'how far do you run PW now?' Who cares!) . Also, why only 16 week training plans? Why can't you put in the number of weeks you'd like to train for (within reason of course)? Personally I do 12 week plans, and at the moment am just doing what I feel I can do each day, just getting in the mood and keeping myself ticking over before the REAL training starts.
All seems pretty flawed to me. Wouldn't like to think of anyone new to running using this as a tool to set themselves up for a race. Dangerous I think.
Neil, you can select the number of week's for the training plan.
Why do you think that a new runner following a structured plan would be dangerous?
Hi Steve, looks like we have our own thread
I would have thought that by including your recent race time, you are getting a realistic plan to run the next race. Would be dangerous if a novice put an unrealistic race time in and then tried to train to that wouldn't you think?
toddytyke- your probably right but i just think it needs that 1 bit of information to give you some idea what that session might help you achieve, but then like you say it could be the wrong thing for a complete novice.
Did Daniel gert back to you?