Well done Stump. We're all getting there gradually.
PSC - Belvoir is so much closer.
WW - do you think I'd get any benefit from miles on my hybrid? I sort of thought that as the podition is so different I'd be better off just using the road bike but the route options are much greater on the hybrid.
If you think you can or you think you can't you're probably right.
I feel that miles in the legs are always good and variety never hurt anyone - os it gets closer to the race - i do most my riding on a race bike .. but this time of the year i find that MTBing puts less stress on my crocked bike therefore i get more cycling in plus it improve handling skills etc ... and MTBs & Hybrids are normally heavier and have greater rolling resistance and you ride on tough terrain therefore work you harder
So long as you don't do all your training on the hybrid and then jump on your race bike on race day you'll be fine. I do the majority of training miles on my commuter scooter that is a cyclo cross frame with no tri bars. I think that MTB to an extreme TT set up may be asking for a bit of trouble, but at this time of the year with 6+ months to race day for most then even MTB can be well worth it, and is better than a 2 hour sofa session
Stump, yes and no. They aren't likely to slow you too much and offer new positions (obviously). For me then the main advantage for 'Joe Average' is that it lets you mount an aero-bottle and therefore keep well hydrated / energy topped up and also to rest your back which will help you run better. As for aero advantages, well yes, there are some, but the first two make the difference for me. In both cases you can see they become a lot more important as the distance increases.
Stump - talking as a novice I would say yes to aeros... more positions, very comfy for longer rides, look dead cool, somewhere to mount your bike poota/garmin, etc. They do take some getting used to though. Don't fit them then ride out on a busy road and try to drop onto them for the first time as you may well end up under a truck! Once you are used to dropping onto them and then moving back to your normal bars they are great.
LMH - Saw your post on the last page. I did Belvoir this year and I found it quite tough. Finding the place to register was hard in itself which didn't help the pre-race nerves. The water in the swim was the blackest I've ever encountered - it was like putting your head into tar it was that black. Transition was a good third of a mile (if not further) from the swim exit - a nice run through sheep/rabbit/deer crap before putting your bike shoes on. Mmmm nice. Admittedly transition was moved due to flooding on the original transition site. The cycle was a bit tough (20 mins average more time than the Bala course). They also had the olympic and half running at the same time and I can't say their direction signs were very helpful. And the run was hilly. I'd choose Vitruvian or Bala over Belvoir!
You're unlikely to improve much by attempting a bike session that leaves you in hospital. Clold and wet is OK, but high winds are a good sensible reason to opt out. Note that if you were talking about skipping a turbo session then this doesn't apply.
Hmm, think it's supposed to be better on Sunday, but I'm tied up all day with my Level 2 refs course, so it will have to be Saturday for me. Hopefully will be OK, but if not then 3 hours in the garage. Joy oh Joy.
Agree, but the I-magic does make time drag a little less slowly. I need to get some long rides in, so I don't really have the option of waiting for the weather to improve. I did try 3 hours in the garage not on the turbo, but got awfully dizzy after 4 minutes, so probably won't try that again
pressuambly you would prepare for a 2 hour plus turbo in the same way as a long ride ..... food/drink/lubed up etc? you don't just hop on and keep going do you??
yep got the fan and water, but hadn't considered nutrition - then again the longest I've lasted so far on the beast is 30 mins!! Yeah yeah - lightweight I know. Scotch eggs sounds a good plan.
Thanks Holly - that's useful though a bit of a pain as Belvoir is only about an hour away so no worries about accommodation/kennels etc. Time to think of a plan B then.
If you think you can or you think you can't you're probably right.
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the route had lots of sharp climbs up and down to the river side so my legs are short 2day - but going out on the MTB made a nice change
Well done Stump. We're all getting there gradually.
PSC - Belvoir is so much closer.
WW - do you think I'd get any benefit from miles on my hybrid? I sort of thought that as the podition is so different I'd be better off just using the road bike but the route options are much greater on the hybrid.
Are Aero bars worth the effort for a novice?
I'm not going to be breaking 25mph and am looking to get my average up to 18mph.
So will they be worthwhile at this kind of speed?
I feel that miles in the legs are always good and variety never hurt anyone - os it gets closer to the race - i do most my riding on a race bike .. but this time of the year i find that MTBing puts less stress on my crocked bike therefore i get more cycling in plus it improve handling skills etc ... and MTBs & Hybrids are normally heavier and have greater rolling resistance and you ride on tough terrain therefore work you harder
Thats my opinion
So long as you don't do all your training on the hybrid and then jump on your race bike on race day you'll be fine. I do the majority of training miles on my commuter scooter that is a cyclo cross frame with no tri bars. I think that MTB to an extreme TT set up may be asking for a bit of trouble, but at this time of the year with 6+ months to race day for most then even MTB can be well worth it, and is better than a 2 hour sofa session
I'm a bit of a coward on the bike. I was going to get some aero bars and practice them on the turbo before trying them on the road!
A bit wimpy but I hate falling off.
LMH - Saw your post on the last page. I did Belvoir this year and I found it quite tough. Finding the place to register was hard in itself which didn't help the pre-race nerves. The water in the swim was the blackest I've ever encountered - it was like putting your head into tar it was that black. Transition was a good third of a mile (if not further) from the swim exit - a nice run through sheep/rabbit/deer crap before putting your bike shoes on. Mmmm nice. Admittedly transition was moved due to flooding on the original transition site. The cycle was a bit tough (20 mins average more time than the Bala course). They also had the olympic and half running at the same time and I can't say their direction signs were very helpful. And the run was hilly. I'd choose Vitruvian or Bala over Belvoir!
Went out on my bike last night to do a hill session
Had to abandon after 15mins due to strong winds pushing me into rush hour traffic ... a bit scary
Went the gym this morning and did a structured set on the gym bike
10mins spinning warm up
10min strength drills
10min 1-leg drills
10mins spin ups (135rpm)
5mins warm down
I looked out the window and binned the bike session.
Maybe that's why I'm sh*te!
You're unlikely to improve much by attempting a bike session that leaves you in hospital. Clold and wet is OK, but high winds are a good sensible reason to opt out. Note that if you were talking about skipping a turbo session then this doesn't apply.
LOL
Im hoping the wind is to die down for the weekend so that i can get my core bike ride done on Sunday
3 hours on the turbo?
I struggle to make an hour. Wierd, but I always hurt more on the turbo....
i have a few Spinerval DVDs that i use and sometimes i resort to watching a DVD of a live rock concert .... seems to keep me going
But the longest i have managed on the turbo is 2:45
Food and drink I'll admit to, add in a fan, and a radio, but not so much with the lube...
Looked back at my logs from 2006. I managed one 5 1/2 hour session on my turbo.
I still have nightmares!
I have to mop the floor after every turbo session, never mind a manic one!
If you don't normally break sweat, mate, you aint tryin......
Drills session
10mins warmup
10mins strength drills
10mins 1-leg drills
10mins spin ups
5mins warm down
Followed by some shoulder / arm strength work
Why the upper body work?