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What if I don't start my runs feeling like I"m killing myself though? I don't really 'feel' anything but good. I just can't seem to get over the hump of a certain distance and I didn't realise what it was (going too fast) until I ran with my partner (who has a stopwatch for doing his own runs) and saw that our short 'route' took me less time from one week to the next (2.3 miles was 41 seconds faster).
I guess I don't know what you mean by 'the red zone'
Mick - You'll never know how good it is to hear the "Easy, Easy, EeeeeeeeSeeeee" chant from behind you in a race
You just pop all those daft ideas and remind us we run for the love of it
THT - I'd be amazed if you were not trying too hard. I'm no expert but the thing most beginners do is try too hard, too soon, too often.
Maybe it's the way we are but almost every runner does it. Have you considered a HRM to measure your effort?
Maybe it's the way we are but almost every runner does it. Have you considered a HRM to measure your effort?>>
I might be trying too hard but it doesn't seem to feel that way Only when I near the end of my run and then its usually a stitch or my shins (have to run on pavement where I am). I don't ever really feel winded or like I have to stop to breathe etc - its usually these other issues that get to me.
I have been looking at HRMs but being a gadget person I tend to eyeball the incredibly pricey models with all the bells/whistles. I'd love a recommendation for one that is small enough to not break my arm (small female) and can act as a stopwatch etc as well. I'd prefer one that could both use a strap and not use a strap so I can use it but am not always committed to a strap. (Not sure quite how that works with women and the whole bra/breasts thing - I assume the strap fits above!)
Straps go below your breast line, just about the line of your sports bra. Girlies on Short Stuff could help with details
I'm small and use a garmin 305 but it's quite bulky. I used to use a polar RD200 and that was a good unit as well.
Check out the review section, but if I may suggest, buy a cheapo one to start. It could take a while to get used to and there are some new top line stuff coming out in about 4 months.
I ran an entire 10k bouncing off my max heart rate and believed I could have gone harder. Perception is a funny thing....
it's all a learning process
Hi, Tash, well done on starting and even better on keeping going! You've had advice from the most valiant and most experienced runner of us all, Mick, so if you do what he says, you'll do fine!
And do you remember what he said? Take it slowly, make it enjoyable, don't rush....if you're exhausted and hurting, you probably ARE trying to do too much, too fast. We nearly all do it, and if we do, we pay for it. You can't rush it. The rest periods in between exercise are when your body actually build up so it can doa little more next time. If you're not taking those rests, you're actually setting yourself back.
I saw you were in the Netherlands---I am too, so if you email me through this thread maybe we can compare notes!
Take it easy, and remember you're doing this for the sheer pleasure, and you're in it for the long term. There's no hurry, you're doing fine! xxx
I just read that
i'm now hiding in the cupboard ,all embarrased
Come out, Mick, we would miss you if you stayed in there ))
(Besides, I was right, wasn't I? You can't tell us you're NOT valiant and experienced, can you??!!??)
As a fellow newbie, I totally agree with all the help and advice that is being given on this forum. I also gain tons of inspiration from the forums, as you do.
However, I am quite worried about something you said in an earlier post about running and doing your DVD in the same day and not eating as well - You really do need to eat 'cos your'e using up a lot of energy in all sorts of different ways and your body has to get fuel to do this from somewhere.
Please don't think that by not eating you will lose weight quicker - just eat sensibly and don't exercise to the point of exhaustion. Remember - this is supposed to be fun, after all.
Tash, Doug is absolutely right. Train slowly, eat sensibly, and ENJOY IT. As you said, it's about a lot more than just time and distance.
And if you don't know QUITE how modest Mick is being, check out his website:
He and Phil are the most inspiring runners that I have ever heard of--and yet, amazingly, he does indeed take the time to help the rest of us too.
Well, what can i say
yes i'm a very proud man,
i am here to help others
now-a-days i run for all the time for fun but i occasionally pace one as a race,
i don't prepare anything, all thats a thing of the past, i just pick and choose , what, where, and when
but of course you have to be extremely fit t do that
i leave it for you to judge me for yourself
Doug 2, Gentle chugger and Micknphil - Apologies for the delayed response, a friend came over to visit me, and I've been on tour guide duty in Amsterdam for the last few days. Got in plenty of walking though.
Well, after last weeks attempt at keeping fit, (6 days of 1hr cardio dvd and 2 days of running up to 30 mins) and by the end of the week feeling completely, completely zapped of energy and feeling shattered. I have revised my exercise routine, after some much needed rest and recuperation! Firstly, thanks for all the much needed advice. What can I say I'm stubborn, and obviously put myself under pressure which had a knock on effect on me, and this has been a lesson! Today, I decided to go back to basics again, and started the beginners schedule run 2-3mins/walk 1-2 mins and repeated this 12 times. I FELT SO MUCH BETTER!!!!!!! I wasn't as out of breath as I was before, running continually for 10-20 minutes in one go. When I got back I ate, then I must admit did my cardio dvd, however now feel ok. Now I don't know if that's because I've only just started this 'new' routine, and by the end of the week, will be completely drained again, or whether this is going to suit me better, but I'll try this for now, and see what happens.
This may be a stupid question, but being out of breath during 20 minutes of running is not a good thing is it?! Can anyone advise whether it's worth doing this running schedule 5 days a week, or every other day, with the cardio dvd just 3 days a week? For a split second I did feel like jacking it in, but then thought logically to myself, I overpaced myself, and need to take it down a notch. State of mind is very important and keep telling myself there is no such thing as giving up, as I've put too much (IMO) into it already!!! Tashx : )
I'm also new to this game and very tempted to do a LOT in a short space of time. I have a SO who does marathons and here I am trying to work up to my first 5k! I decided that I would do yoga and strength training on my off days to feel more 'rested' - I run about 30 mins 3 or 4 times/week depending on the week. I have felt much more 'in charge' of my health since changing to this routine from 5days/week running. I was just hitting a wall and not progressing and not enjoying it quite as I should have. I now LOVE and PINE to go running and am slowly building my mileage and pace. Maybe you can try switching from cardio to something else like handweights/core strength training/yoga/pilates?
Hi THT, What is it with new runners?!!! Try so hard at first, then knock themselves out and wonder what went wrong!! With regards to my dvd, (started it 12 Jan 08) I've never been a 'slave' to all those 'celebrity workouts' as I thought it was all celebrity hype, but I think Natalie Cassidy's before and after results clinched it for me!! But I tell you, it's a BRILLIANT workout, I've really toned up (sweat like mad) and wanted an alternative that would target certain areas, and keep me in shape, as well as the running. Basically, I want to lose the fat/weight (10kgs), tone up, be leaner and fitter, not much to ask really!! (like most people) I've progressed better with the dvd than the running, of course the running is harder going, and did wonder what I will gain more from, and is more beneficial to me. I did consider yoga/pilates do you know of any good dvd's? As I live in the Netherlands, finding classes etc, is not so easy, due to the language barrier, hence me at home with the dvd!! Can I ask, did you start off with the run/walk technique, how easy/quickly did you progress? Tashx
Well done, Tash! Yup, when we start out nearly all of us try to do too much, too fast. Don't worry about it, it's normal. BUT by dropping back a notch to some sensible run/walk you will actually make progress much faster, AND you will enjoy it.
THT, sounds like you have a really ideal schedule, that's building up your fitness steadily and is giving you enough energy that you look forward to running. That's absolutely critical, cos no one is going to do on doing it if they don't like it.
As to the cardio, I'm no expert (prolly some other peeps will wander in who are!) but especially if you're fairly new to exercising I would suggest you aim to run/walk for 30- 40 mins 3 days a week, do your cardio 3 days a week (three OTHER days) and have one day right off. Your body actually rebuilds and gets stronger on your rest days, not while you're exercising, so they are every bit as important as the exercise.
Sounds like you're both doing great!
Tash: if you want some info about English-language fitness classes over here, drop me a line!
Hope you are well! Just after I last updated you with my progress........I came down with a bad cold, and yes have paid the price for it! But now feel alot better, I've just come back from my jog round Delft, and it's a lovely day! Still on the run/walk schedule, however seriously considering, as I have lot of weight to shift, whether I will progress, and to be honest feeling a bit despondent as I'm not able to run as long as I did before, the longest being 20 minutes in one go. I really want to keep at it, but struggling!! Tashx
If that is all that you can do Tash, then I suppose that you will have to do it if you want to improve. But it really is better if you can rest after each run, or only do two consecutive days.
I would try hard on the first run of the three and take the other two a little easier so that you aren't putting too much strain on your legs. If you get any unusual pain or niggles then that might be a sign that you need to rest more between each run, so maybe then you should cut back to two runs a week.