The Magic Roundabout & Hay Festival Social 2008

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  • depends which side of cardiff you live galloping trot, but you should do it comfortably in 1 3/4 hours on a sunday morning,
  • was accounting for getting here with time to spare prior to the race!! Told you not to listen to me! 
  • We're leaving from Cathedral Rd - we were thinking just about 1.5 hours, but in the light of what I've just read methinks we'd better get up a bit earlier!
  • Vis a vis earlier entry (4 back). It is no 17, and up already (DOAPT)! Cat
  • Jungle Dave don't leave me.  I thought you were going to keep me company at the back...???  image

    Number has arrived....  119....  could have been worse... could have been 118... image

    I'm still not entirely sure whether it's a good plan doing this considering I've not trained for a month due to that bliddy chest infection.  Am fine now just not got many runs in.  >wibbles<

  • Just found this - I hope it is not to late to enter.  I'll be down in Hay with book worm OH and family so should be able to sneak out for this.  Sounds like a cracking race.

    Is there any family fun at the race itself?

    We are camping in town centre.  It sounds like a refugee camp with builders bogs etc.  Let's hope for good weather.

    Will it be practical to drive out to the race then back into Hay centre again or is it all a big jam in festival week?  Is there any other way to get to start from Hay - it doesn't look too far but maybe a bit hilly to run to start?

  • Aha just entered online.  Look forward to seeing you all there.
  • Bob, you'll not be the only one heading to the Roundabout from the camp site if you are on Tangerine Fields. Last year I ran over and back the day before to check it out, then drove over on race day (it was raining a tad, but I'm not supposed to mention that image )

    I think you'll be likely to do well if I correctly remember some eralier posts of yours about the sort of times you run.

    I'm contemplating riding my mountain bike over there from the camp site this year - may drive if I get up late though, or if the sun isn't shining as brightly as it might.

    Am booking in to camp Saturday night, and may stop Sunday too - undecided yet.

    Will be away until Friday now - Nam I'll be in touch with a motivational phone call, we'll not have any talk of dropping out - wibble indeed!!

  • Thanks Do2.  Have I seen you at BRTT yet? 

    When I look at it we're actually camping at Hay Outdoor Training which is a bit outside the town so should be easy enough to jog.  Or maybe drive - in the case that I'm already too badly sun burnt image.

    OH is a keen booky so we're camped for the duration - Friday night -> Monday.  I'll generally be entertaining my own 2 but a quick hill race can't do any harm, can it?

  • Running Bob,

    I wouldn't advise jogging to the race H.Q. - when you turn off the A438 at Llowes it's three-miles, uphill virtually all the way! Take the car, park as per the signed directions and it's then 800 m. to race H.Q. - quite enough initial warm-up, with another 400 m. uphill to the Start!

    Mind you, it's well worth it when you get there!

    Shaun
  • Dad Of Two wrote (see)

    Will be away until Friday now - Nam I'll be in touch with a motivational phone call, we'll not have any talk of dropping out - wibble indeed!!


    Aw.. DoT that's really lovely, but I'd just sort of decided in my head that considering my heart and respiratory rate on the last two runs Monday and yesterday I really shouldn't be doing a XC10k.  That chest infection really knocked me for six.  It would take me forever, honest.  I did 5.5 miles on Monday and it took me 1hr10mins and that's on a flat road!!!  imageimage  I think I'm better off taking it it easy...

    Maybe Cathy would allow me to defer my place due to having had a sh*te month!!  image

  • I think you've made a sensible decision Nam, I ran (or tried to) home from the Station tonight (4ish miles along the towpath) and my HR was scarily high,

  • How hilly and how rough is it?  Trail shoes?

    Looking forward to it now.

  • JD:  I dnf'd a XC 5 mile race 2 weeks ago because my heart & respiratory rate were sky high....  I was doing it with a friend who is just about to finish her medical degree and she told me that a respiratory rate like that would earn me a bed on her ward...  LOL...  that's when I stopped....

    I can train again now as long as I build up easy but I'm not ready to race.  4 weeks of being really flat out plus the antibiotics does take its toll and I just have to be realistic.

    RB I did it last year in trail shoes and would recommend it. 

  • Trail shoes? Don't own a pair of those, so will be using a regular pair of roadrunning shoes instead. Fingers crossed it doesn't get too rainy between now and Sunday - Met Office report looks as though it could go either way.  
  • trail shoes are the best choice but normal road shoes should be fine as it is mostly run on short grass, you will just have to take it a bit steadier if  the grass is wet (which of course it won't be!!)

  • Hmmmm just looked at met office site (is that allowed?) and they have heavy r*** and high w*** for Sunday. 

    Still we are comfortably outside the severe w** warning area and I'm sure that it will be nice and sheltered up on the Begwyns image.

    In fact the race will be fun in those conditions but less sure about the camping.

  • Ah, yes, I'd forgotten - we're not meant to discuss the weather on this thread, are we? Well, I'll be there whatever the conditions (barring a broken leg or similar). Likewise with the camping...
  • RunningBob wrote (see)

    Hmmmm just looked at met office site (is that allowed?) and they have heavy r*** and high w*** for Sunday. 

    Still we are comfortably outside the severe w** warning area and I'm sure that it will be nice and sheltered up on the Begwyns image.

    In fact the race will be fun in those conditions but less sure about the camping.


    HAHAHAHAHAHA..................  Welsh monsoon.....  same as last year.....

    Poor Cathy!! 

  • good luck to all running this, I have been lurking as I love this area and the run sounds great.

    fingers crossed for unextreme meteorological conditions for you all.....................

    maybe be there next year !

  • Hmmm, dilema...

    Definitely will be there for the race, just not sure when or how I'll be arriving now.

    (Long story) means I need to get back home by tea time Sunday, and I need to get a big bike ride in on Saturday (which would be better done am to give my legs recovery for the race), so not sure if I'll come down late Saturday and camp, or Sunday straight there.

  • I will probably not get the chance to get on the forum now, on the run up to Sunday, so may I take this chance to say thank you for all your comments, wittisisms, kind words, and to dad of 2 for having the foresight to set up this forum, with the emphasis also being on the Hay Festival . And listen guys - the forecast for today was c--p and I'm typing this with the birds tweeting, sun out and a light breeze, so don't believe all you read in the papers. (famous last...)

     For all those who do the race, please go to the RW site afterwards and let them know through the feedback system how much you enjoyed our little race. It only registers as 'recommended'  with a certain amount of comments. Last year we had fab comments from you, but there were only 12 of them as I recall!!

    By the way,  Next year - the race will still be on, but I am likely to be very much less involved as I have many other things in the pipe line and the Hotfooters are well able to keep this as an ongoing event without little old me at the helm!!! So on a personal level a big thanks to you all, and please introduce yourselves at HQ - I'll be the one having a nervous breakdown in the middle of it all. (only joking - all is cool!)

    Cat

  • Not quite sure how its got to this, but looks as if I'm not even going to make it for the race this year - a real shame, since (as you can see from me strtaing the thread) it is a great race.

    Combination of work, wanting to see my kids, and IM training needs have convinced me that I'm not going to make it even for the day.

    Good luck to all running & organising alike. Enjoy.

  • Who would have thought the weather could have been worse than last year. Nevermind, it was another great race. A special thanks to the organisers and the marshalls who must have been much wetter and colder than us.

     A request for next year regarding the car parking. My old Peugeot 406 with it's dodgy clutch can't manage muddy hills at all well (just like it's owner!). Any chance of a flat car park with some type of road surface for next year?

  • Hi all. Hate to take issue with this, Joe, but I reakon it was much worse last year, well we know it was. Last year our hands froze to the marquee poles as we set it up. This year they got cold, but only after a certain amount of time (a runner said 4 degrees warmer this year). Also, from an organisers point of veiw last year I almost considered cancelling/delaying the start as the fog was so prohibitive. This year no fog. Granted it was WET again (non stop). Ho hum. Could be worse - the Festival had to have fire engines to pump out the rain from a flooded field. Thanks to you all and your collective sense of humour. The worst thing is trying to deal with paperwork/t-shirts/pens/writing in those conditions - its the pits, and to see y'all turning blue afterwards. The actual running isn't too bad you're all used to it.  Thanks to all of you who introduced yourselves to us off this forum - lovely to put  (proper) names to faces. I just KNOW next year it will shine for you (got a £50 bet on it to the club if I'm wrong). LOL Cat X
  • Well those of you who have never seen the scenery of the Begwins have seen a bit more of it at least this year. Perhaps squinting your eyes to be able to see against the driving rain spoilt it a bit for you, but at least you will get the idea of what a beautiful place this is when you can see.  Thanks to you all for coming and even though it was wet, and cold if you were standing still, most of you seemed to be enjoying yourselves.

     Thanks again Cath, great race, and it can only get better in every way from now on. 

  • August 10th 2008 And yet it had all started so promisingly. A glittering career in events organising could have been hers in the bag….. if it hadn’t come to this. The only way forward, the Specialists reasoned would be to gently coax her memory back to the actual day, to relive it, and then to ease her through it, in a positive light, trying to put good what had been bad. This kind of cognitive therapy had worked so well for other patients and Race Directors, why was she not responding in the same way? Christ, it must have been a real toughie. Martha, one of their most experienced nurses, would this just this, as they had discussed at the hand-over that very morning. The night nurses described just how Cat had been over the early hours: Mary: ‘’She had a really bad time last night, muttering in her sleep, despite her higher dose of medication. She kept cowering under her blankets from imaginary rain, screaming ‘drizzle, showers, deluge, cats and dogs, drops, clouds, downpours’…she’s getting worse’’. Martha had heard enough. She approached Cat in the day room slowly – any sudden movements and it could blow the whole morning. ‘’Cat, are you ready to move forward’’?     
  • She had once been quite attractive. Now she rocked slowly back and forth, hugging her knees to her chest, and ancient old running number still pinned to her Hay Hotfooters top. Cat turned to her, eyes filled with terror ‘’Move forward in a Running kind of a way’’? ‘’No, we don’t have to run anywhere’’, Martha reassured her patiently, god this took some patience, even for her, ‘’not until you are ready. Let’s just talk about the weather, say’’ As soon as she heard the word coming out of her lips she realised her error. ‘’NO, NO NOT THE WEATHER, ANYTHING BUT THAT’’ Cat’s pain was palpable, as vivid images from the ‘Magic Roundabout’ race came flooding back, only not ‘flooding’, mercy be – that really would tip her over the edge. ‘’Cat, you’ve got to go back there, they were conditions anyone has to put up with, albeit appalling. We are here to help. You must start to talk to us’’, Martha implored. ‘’But…’’ Cat managed to stutter between sobs, ‘’It happened to me TWICE, 2008, AND 2007. Why hadn’t anyone ever mentioned this to Martha before she wondered? My goodness, no wonder the poor girl was in such a mess. Evidently, no one questioned Cat about it properly.  ‘‘Cat, you only need to look in the Runners World forums to see it can happen to anyone, they always….’’  Cat ran screaming from the room. Martha realised, maybe too late that she had really gone too far……… Maybe she was losing her edge. She’d been in this job for too long. Maybe she just needed a holiday in the sun.     
  • Cat, you were right about the about the temperature, it was warmer than last year. The runners did the easy bit yesterday. It was the you, the other organisers and the marshalls (especially the one that ran at the back of the field) who deserve all the credit!!  

    Thank you again.

  • well done to all the marshalls and organisers yesterday and especially to cat. it was very cruel to turn out like that again yesterday but all of you made the most of it with great encouragement from the marshalls on the way round, i think they needed it more than the runners though!  i look forward to next year when we can all just hang around after the race enjoying the sunshine while sipping on cider! running wise i think it was tougher this year due to the strong wind, but as cat says for them it wasn't as cold as last year. well done again and fingers crossed for next year!
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