Monday 26th May 2008

GobiGobi ✭✭✭
Morning all, everyone asleep?

We are about 20 miles north of MANChester on the M6.

What: 5 mile race in Manchester AM
Few miles possible gym PM
Club 1-2 miles PM later
Why: Comrades taper
Last hard: Edinburgh Marathon yesterday
Last rest: Saturday 24th May


  • Morning

    Gobi - Another excellent performance.

    What: Rest
    Why: Schedule
    Last hard: More than a week

    Have a good one.
  • ah well - the "is it a chat - is it a pre-interview?" meeting turned out to be a " we don't want to progress your application any further" type chat.  i'm really very glad running is going so well at the moment - its the only thing that is!

    what: 10k easy
    why: i needed it

  • Morning,

    What: 7 miles done and dusted

    Why: Just plodding about over the sunny clay cliff tops of East Cleveland

    Last Hard: Trying to keep up with a bunch of kids playing keep ball yesterday

    Last rest: Friday

    Have a great Bank Hol

  • SticklessStickless ✭✭✭

    Oh stink M.  Enjoy the running anyhow.

    Tired today.  I really can't afford to be tired, so placing myself under house arrest, not even going to the office as that involves either a cycle in the wind or a long walk.  Odd how I want to get in to the office only when I (know) I can't.  No alternative except to sit at desk and get the job done.

    (Or hang about here.  Baaaaaddddd stickless, back to the desk with you.  tee hee)

  • 40 minutes40 minutes ✭✭✭

    M - Not quite what was wanted, but running's far more important...

    Race report from yesterday's Plymouth Half Marathon.

    Heavy rain & strong wind forecast.  Testing course with some challenging hills.  Last 2 have marathons have been on fast courses, and have resulted in my only 2 sub-90 times.  Not really expecting a 3rd, race plan was to run sub-7s and see what happened.

    Heading out of Exeter we had the forecast weather.  Not really looking forward to the pre-race soaking, but when we parked in Plymouth the rain had stopped.  Breeze & heavy clouds, but OK for now.

    Mile 1: 6:16 (HR146)  Downhill & certainly sub-7
    Mile 2:  6:20 (159)  More down
    Mile 3:  6:50 (160)  Level
    Mile 4:  6:50 (160)  Over the Plym & into Saltram Park (National Trust)
    Mile 5:  6:36 (161)  Steady uphill
    Mile 6:  7:49 (165)  Steep uphill
    Mile 7:  6:42 (162)  Out of the park & downhill.  Slight jelly legs.
    Mile 8:  7:03 (164)  Through underpass & back the way we came
    Mile 9:  6:28 (162)  Nice bit of downhill
    Mile 10:  6:42 (165)  Feeling it now, but just about on for sub-90
    Mile 11:  7:01 (164)  Through the Barbican
    Mile 12:  6:59 (165)  The last hill starts
    Mile 13:  7:50 (168)  Steep last mile
    and 2:26 (176) to finsh under the clock displaying 1:29:xx

    Finished with 1:29:27, not quite a PB but probably my best half as it isn''t an easy course.  3 sub 90s in a row now, looks like that's got to be the standard now!

  • Tom.Tom. ✭✭✭
    Good morning

    20mns well run, though your last 1.1m seems very slow 10:18?

    Soda - like yourself, high mileage is now a thing of the past having more or less peaked at 45-50 per week.

    For myself: Heavy cold continues so an easy run becomes.

    Enjoy the bank holiday
  • Morning all

    20mns - Well done in what sounds like very testing conditions.

    Heavy cold now too - abandoned any running yesterday but hopefully something easy later instead of the planned reps.

  • Morning All

    Normal working day here, boo hoo

    Trini: Hope its comes good for you
    BR: Nice 10K, you always make it sound so easy!
    M: To hell with work, go run
    Gobi: As controlled as ever.
    Clink: Nice race
    20 mins: Nice standard to have

    Me: Like Blisters I feel like I'm finally getting back to something approaching proper training, 50 miles last week and it dawned on me during todays run that I had been pain free for three days, yahoo its the first time I've really felt like a runner since before christmas, shame about the 6kg I now have to get rid of1

    What: 5miles at lunchtime d& d, 7 miles with club tonight
    Why: Getting back into it
    Last Hard: Friday
    Last rest: Saturday

  • Morning all,

    What: Going to attempt to find a decent sports physio on the island.

    Why: Injured and Comrades at risk

    Have a great day

  • Afternoon all,

    What a horrid day weather wise. Im off to BTs engagement party tonight which was supposed to have been a BBQ, but I suspect it will be held indoors now, still will be nice to see BT and his other half to be, who is a half decent runner herself image


    am1: 8.25mile easy/steady already done (7:06mm) quiet awful outside, lots of rain and heavy wind blowing the rain into my face, plus some tired legs. Managed enouth pace to make this a worthwhile run, in fact considering the conditions I was quiet pleased really.

    am2: Gym session already done, hammering the legs today.


    Aerobic endurance and strength.

  • Morning all,

    Gobi you nutter, racing the day after a mara!

    200 mins, great time on a very challenging course, you've really cracked that 90 now.

    Trini, ouch ouch, hope you can sort it out and that Comrades is a go after all your hard work.

    M., sorry the talk didn't go to plan.

    Did I mention that it was lovely to hear from Scoobs on the forum this weekend?

    I did nothing all weekend, foot was very achey and I'm at a bit of a loss. Might go for upper body weights today and ease off the pool running since, although it didn't hurt at the time, it surely did after. Trying to be patient.

    Good runnings all.

  • 20 mins - great run - definitely got to use sub-90 as the standard now!

    Trini - I hope you get things sorted out.

    M - sorry it wasn't what you wanted, but I guess better to find out sooner rather than later?

    What: a rain drenched 9.5M
    Why: wanted to run this morning to leave the afternoon free to watch cricket!
    Last hard: yesterday's 11M
    Last rest: Saturday

    So, that's over 20M in the last couple of days, which is good - and they have all felt comfortable, as well.

    Now enjoying sitting in front of the TV watching England gradually close in on their target.  Starting to get quite hopeful now...

    Off to see Indiana Jones this evening - mixed feelings - will it be fun or will I just be disappointed?  Or, maybe, both?

  • hello

    Just home form a very sunny Scotland with a red face and ratehr jnackered legs

    i certainly could not have raced today!

    Erm, this faster running hurts doesnt it


  • 20 minutes-to think a while ago tou were struggling for that 90 mins and now you just churn it out

    Happy rengagement to BT

    M-never mind, summat better around the corner I am sure(I say that to myself all the time)

    fingers crossed for you Trini

  • Afternoon everyone, just about got my mind back together after a 5 hour drive back from Edinburgh - 265miles. Beautiful weather in Scotland and not bad here in Barnsley, either! OK, so I guess some of you are wondering about my marathon attempt?

    Did I do myself justice after 6 years of having a 4.16.32 millstone around my neck; of walking for about 5M and feeling awful, leading to a lack of confidence to have a good run over 20M and having good times for all distances except the big one? Keep reading.........

  • well???????
  • SivSiv ✭✭✭

    Sorry to hear about the job but I agree with Hippo - it makes sure you are available when the better thing comes along. Also agree with 20 mins that running is more important.

    Many congrats, Hipps. Sub-4:30 next.

    And well done 20mins. Doing the same excellent time for increasingly difficult courses must be equivalent to a pb. Or near enough.

    Hope you find time for a nap.

    What: 4.3k plod in the rain
    Why: recovery
    Last hard: yesterday's race
    Last race: Saturday
    Lyrics: no. Yesterday's was Dave Frishberg's "Gotta get me some ZZZZ".

  • Like Gobi said, a lot of Edinburgh marathon was into the wind, until the turnaround at 18M. The first 5M were nice and gently downhill in places, but not really qualifying as a 'downhill' marathon and I went through 6M fairly quickly with BR's words of 'run within myself' echoing through my head. Anyway, here are the splits and HR details:
    1M   7.08  (150)  had to stop for a wee! but stopped the watch image
    2M   7.23  (160)
    3M   7.18  (160)
    4M   7.14  (158)
    5M   7.33  (163) bang into the wind, really slowing everyone down
    6M   7.40  (165) windy along the promenade
    7M   7.51  (165) hardly any shelter except from other runners which isn't great!
    8M   7.42   (164)
    9M   7.39  (163)
    10M  7.46   (165)   pleased to be here in 1.15.15
    11M  7.47   (165)
    12M  7.47   (165)
    13M  7.59   (164) came up to half way in about 1.40, so feeling quite good at the stage, no aches.
    14M   8.02  (168)  exposed to the wind again
    15M  8.01  (167)  start to see the front runners coming back (wish I was there!)
    16M  7.58  (169)   we tun off the main drag and go off for a loop, mildly uphill then a 180 deg turn (nasty)
    17M  7.55  (167) head onto a track towards Gosford House, lots of loose stones and hard to get a grip in places
    18M  8.15  (169) turn around after passing Gosford House, 8M to go!
    19M  7.59  (169)  the tail wind isn't happening and the sun has come out, glad I've got my hat on!
    20M  8.05   (171)  here in 2.35.04, only 4 mins slower than my EH20 result
    21M  8.19   (171) exposed to the wind again, just when I don't need it!
    22M   8.25  (171)
    23M   8.36  (171) getting thirsty and knackered but only 3M to go
    24M   8.48  (170)  nearly there, but determined not to walk!
    25M   9.04  (170)  counting down the miles and getting slower, but still passing runners, including relay runners!!!!! Some of them are walking?!!! No sign of the wall though, just keep going Dan!
    26M 8.56  (171) getting quicker again as the finishing banner looms in the distance, can I sprint?
    0.35 (arggh, along course!)  2.47  (179) as I sprint across the line!

    So, yes, a long course and a watch time of 3.29.58 but I did stop the clock when I went for a wee in the first mile, plus I started it when I crossed the start line, not when the gun went, so I reckon I was back in 3.30.25ish.

    Still, a 46mins PB for me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! imageimageimage and the millstone has to be taken off and passed to someone else in the club  - and he knows who he is image

  • Gobi - did you see the lassie at the start (on a pedestal dressed in a blue lycra leotard) waving the flag? Her tight-fitting attire left nothing to the imagination and made me very pleased image

    After the race, I went into the city with my training partner for some grub. Getting the bus back to my lodgings required a bus, so I went on a long walk to Princes Street and walked around 3M, so today, the legs are amazingly quite good, even after a 5hour drive!

  • Superb FL

    I found that gravel hard too

  • Didn't realise you did the race also, PH?! I saw a Scooby Doo, a panda and a rhino, but didn't see you! How did you do?
  • 4.31

    second fastest mara ever

    found it really, really tough though with that wind

  • Superb maras from Hippo, FL, and Gobi (any pictures of this blue lycra???) - FL, I'd go with the watch time! 

    And how did FIN do???

    Sorry to hear about your "interview" M - on the plus side, more time for running!

    Every healing vibe I can find being sent in Trinni's direction

    Well Plymouthed, 20 min - second time under 90?

    Good to hear from Soda - sorry to hear it's not going all well - although all the coaching sounds good.

    What: Avoiding the rain... about to start on a turbo, then a run, then maybe a swim (probably not!)
    Why: Avoiding the rain - it's really a bank holiday here!


  • Yep, PH, really tough wind! It was as tough as miles 16 to 19 during EH20 in March this year (for anyone who did that).  Well done for your result, btw.

  • TRTR ✭✭✭
    Well done PH and FL.

    PBs too. A well managed return from injury there FL, onwards and upwards - 3:15 next.

    Well done on the 1/2 20min, a nice time on a tough course.
  • Well done Hipps - FAb stuff and still faster than my FLM image. Even with the windybum that I read somewhere...:0)

    FL - there you go, glad your mara time is now in keeping. Well done to you too, you sound really pleased.

    I hope you are both celebrating.

    Melissa - I am so sorry to read about b/f and your foot. Take care and I foot gets better soon.

    Soda - ok I have continued with squats - phew - 20 done this morning. :0)

    Trinni - So sorry to hear about achilles nightmare. I think you're doing the best thing and seeking advice immediately. Take it from there. I think my condition is different as mine did warn me for a long time. First by becomming a bit tender, then by being stiff in the mornings. I did shift it though for a time, so there is hope that I will again. I hope it's not too serious and you can get to Comrades as you have been training for it so hard. It's a tough one on what to do about it. I would say the eccentric calf exercises are good but I think you need to find out what you have done first and also if it is really bad it might need some time to calm down first too. Let us know what they say and the very best of luck to you for a speedy recovery.

    20 mins - well done at Plymouth, I gave you a cheer on that last hill but I suspect you were busy concentrating! We were so lucky with the weather it was perfect for running in the end. Although the sun did come out for some of the slower runners just as they hit that hill - yuk!

    I also saw Night Nurse and gave her a cheer, she did see me there. I hope she did well, she was certainly looking good to me when I saw her.

     As things are not changing and I am on a wating list I'm going to give it one more week and then I am going to start up some very gentle running again. Gentle, not far, and very slow and we'll see how we go... It's something and something is always always better than nothing!

    Today is

    1 hour stationary bike Level 10 on hill with MP3 blaring some fab angry music to keep me going and then 20 lengths FC as fast as I can go in pool.

    I have found out I have to get out of deep end and tag Mr Scoobs before he can go to do run next week for the Aquathon - MAJOR grrr's.

    HOLLYWOOD - you did contact the organisers afterall it seems! GRR!

    So I need to practice getting out of deep end in a fast, dignifyed and efficient manner - all of which will be quite new to me - oh dear!

  • WelshpoppyWelshpoppy ✭✭✭

    Well done FL that is super chunk of your milestone:-0

    Hippo well done on fast marathonimage

    BT CONGRATS on engagementimage

    Live each day as if it was your last  give it all you have to reap the rewards.
  • Pammie*Pammie* ✭✭✭


    Gobi - Hope weather in Manchester was better than it is down sarf... notice how i didn't flinch at the mere mention of you racing again one day after a marathon

    FL - Great race from you yesterday pleased for you, score well and truly settled. Question will you do it again?

    Hippo - Excellent again. Getting closer to No. 100. Have you given any thought to where No. 100 will be?

    20 minutes - This sub 90 seems to becoming a habit. Well done to you on a tougher course

    BT - Congratulations

    Running is a funny sport, looked out the window this morning and it weren't pretty, trees bending in the wind...NOT looking forward to my run, delayed it  hoping weather would settle decided it wasn't so went out head side winds for much of the way back strangely one of my better runs

    What: 4.07 miles 62%WHR/9:58 mile
    Why: Recovery, not easy today
    Last Hard: 8 days

  • THanks for the congrats so far!

    Pammie - you mean will I do Edinburgh again, or the marathon??  Well, let's just say that I've entered London anyway........image

  • Pammie*Pammie* ✭✭✭

    FL - I was talking any other Marathon

    I have entered London too ...

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