job application help - America

Hi Guys,
I'm royally hacked off with work and have decided it's time to start looking for something else

but this is where I need help..... has anyone ever applied for a lecturing job in America and have any advice as to what my CV/covering letter should look like?
I really doubt very much that I stand a chance but it would be nice to give it my best shot

any (sensible) advice greatly appreciated
Thank you


  • Nothing to offer Cal but good luck with it hun xxx
  • I've joined your club. Good luck image
  • beebsbeebs ✭✭✭

    I'll ask BD, he has students who go off to America although usually they are applying for specific post doc posts.

    Good luck

  • It should be really loud and obnoxious, that should do it.  image
  • Cally, check out the holiday entitlement and benefits etc before you go.  Not sure about education but in the corporate world you get very little annual holiday - something like 2 weeks a year!  <I think that's right as my friend married an American, they live in Texas and that's all he gets>  Good luck with whatever you decide. 

  • way2slowway2slow ✭✭✭
    i've a friend who works in a university out there and he gets 10 days a year (+ statutory) so deff not great for hols etc. for your CV i've been told a single page is all they'll look at!!
  • callycatcallycat ✭✭✭
    thanks for the help guys
    and good point about the holidays!

    in reality I doubt they'd give me the job - but it's nice to try.
    There are two I could go for - a Chair and a professorship and both are very tempting.

    I'll start work on my CV and covering letter now then.

  • a note of caution - you  need to check whether health insurance benefits are offered, getting sick in the U.S. can be a very costly affair.
  • callycatcallycat ✭✭✭
    Thanks Ultra-Ironwolf... I'd just like to get an interview!
    I will look into it though
  • fess up you just want a holiday out if it......
  • fat buddhafat buddha ✭✭✭
    CC - get in touch with IronMelissa through the tri forum (she ususally posts in the evenings on the IM training thread). she's a lecturer in the US - Prof now I believe - and is a Brit who's been out there for a few years.....

    she'd be a good bet to help you out
  • callycatcallycat ✭✭✭
    blimey the power of the forum again!
    Thanks for that FB
  • Its not what you know.....

    Its who you chat to online....

  • fat buddhafat buddha ✭✭✭
    or meet in the flesh at IM events......
  • That's a good point about writing your CV.  FB will correct me I'm sure image, but I think there are seveal ways of writing a CV - a skills based CV, a work history CV and others...  Not sure which type they would want...  and definitely keep it short and to the point.  I worked in HR for Whitbread for a few years looking at people's CVs for job applications and after page 1 you do tend to tune out...

    this may help you with your CV writing...

    perhaps other formites may have a better CV writing hints and tips link.

  • ...we hated CVs with coloured paper - they went straight in the bin.  We hated fancy writing that you couldn't read, they also went in the bin.  Nice clear font, black ink on white paper.  Two pages maximum.  <waits to be corrected...image>
  • beebsbeebs ✭✭✭


    BD's email reply , hope it helps

    The things I've noticed about CVs in the USA which are different from here are;

    They are more likely to call it a Resume (acute on the e)

    There is more likely to be a career intention statement up front.  'I have completed a highly successful PhD in blah and am seeking employment within an internationally leading research group as a postdoctoral fellow.  After this I will become President.'

    They are more likely to state the obvious after previous work...  Bar Assistant at Guzzles R Us, Nantucket.  During this period I learned how to pour drinks and use a cash register.

    They spend more time thinking about what saintly but non-time-consuming activities/hobbies they have  - I enjoy having my PA donate money to charity.  I learn foreign languages whilst I'm asleep, etc, etc.

    I would also use USA spelling

  • callycatcallycat ✭✭✭
    LOL Beebs!
    good hint about the american spelling.
    The advert specifies Curriculum Vitae isn't a resume slightly different?

    Coloured paper? do people actually use coloured paper for CV'S Blondiee
    *goes to look at link*

    Ta image

  • beebsbeebs ✭✭✭

    I don't think he was being totally flippant image

  • fat buddhafat buddha ✭✭✭
    cc - I see thousands of CV's per annum and many never fail to amaze me

    some absolute do nots

    do not stick a photo on the CV - we only ever laugh at them

    do not stick the age of your kids, your marriage date, the name of your wife/husband etc on a CV - we have never understood why people do that and it seems to happen once you get past 45 as if you're justifying your life!

    do not mention politics or religion in CV's - unless you're applying for a job in these areas.

    and fer fecks sake - do not use "I" - 3rd person only please

    there are many many more do nots
  • do people actually use coloured paper for CV'S Blondiee

    the cream/sandy coloured paper Cally is what I was thinking of.

  • many US firms use dedicated software programs for application for jobs and  to sift through resumes.
  • *goes to shred cream/sandy coloured paper cv*

    *hides arty textured paper*


  • Good luck with the search!

    Q. Curriculum Vitae vs. Resume?From Alison Doyle,
    Your Guide to Job Searching.
    FREE Newsletter. Sign Up Now! A. The primary differences between a resume and a curriculum vitae (CV) are the length, what is included and what each is used for. A resume is a one or two page summary of your skills, experience and education. While a resume is brief and concise - no more than a page or two, a Curriculum Vitae is a longer (at least two page) and more detailed synopsis.

    A Curriculum Vitae includes a summary of your educational and academic backgrounds as well as teaching and research experience, publications, presentations, awards, honors, affiliations and other details. In Europe, the Middle East, Africa, or Asia, employers expect to receive a curriculum vitae.

    In the United States, a curriculum vitae is used primarily when applying for academic, education, scientific or research positions. It is also applicable when applying for fellowships or grants.

  • I had no idea about the above. I thought CV was the British expression for resume.
  • callycatcallycat ✭✭✭
    blimey LE! that is specific!
    thanks for all you help guys - I'll certainly bear it all in mind as I start working on my CV

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