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i read your post with interest about going to a club
hence the reason i wrore my thread about Clubs !!
Have u seen it ?
howdy mick, put PH down you don't know where she's been LOL
I have to say, in defence of the club, they were great, it was just one offhand comment by one member that upset me a bit. she may not even have realised the potential impact of what she said, but I have seen your thread and you make some good points, on both sides
I did feel a bit embarrassed that I was there and beyond my capabilities, but it turned out that I managed fine once I was in my *zone*.
but as has already been said, we all have to start somewhere and someone will always be last and the slowest of a group and no one should be made to feel silly because of it, although if they really are out of their depth then it shuld be diplomatically and encouragingly pointed out and definitely not in a way that would make that person feel belittled
anyway, back on track, I remember when I started running my running coach congratulated me, she said many many people struggle to even reach 12 minute mile pace when they start out. so there you go
hey i agree with everything everyone has said, be v.proud of yourself that you are getting out there and running...and i dont think i know anyone who can walk a 12 minute mile!
somebody at my club once said to me that they had an elite marathon running athleteas a guest at an event and he pointed out that he runs a marathon as fast as he can, but is only on his feet for 2h+...slower runners run as fast as they can but are running for 5, 6h! he couldnt imagine being on his feet for that length of time!
I agree with the comments. After a couple of years running I finally plucked up courage and went to the local club. I spoke to them and explained I wanted to have a go and see if I was good enough. Apparently I was which made my week as I had literally spent months plucking up courage to go. However, after about 6 weeks I went along and this man refused to run with me and said 'no, she's one of yours' to another member it was sooooooo embarassing it was like being back to the last one picked for the team. After fighting back the tears and being rescued by some kindly soul who insisted he would run with me. We ran well caught up the nasty man, we went about 1/2 mile shorter but got back before them.
So I am now back to training alone. Wimp, I know but as I started to run to gain confidence I am not able to go and face the hassle. I am not a fast runner but run between 9.5 min miles to 10.5.
I think a good club is a real find but unfortunately there don't seem to be many round here.
IT is good to hear positive comments from experienced runners and the support given on these forum is great. Anyway gone from never posting to saying too much.
Agree with everyone
I am not an experienced runner
I did my first 10k 2 weeks ago - 13.12mm - and that was in a race
I am slow
Sometimes I am last
Sometimes I am nearly last
I said I would never race.....then PH said on a thread that I wasnt too crap to go to a race - kinda made me start to rethink things. PH and a couple of other forumites convinced me to do a 5k in march. That was my first race. The 10k 2 weeks ago was my 10th.
I am learning to manage to ignore the people who insist on telling me how rubbish I am - slowly
12 minute miles are fine, its the getting out there which is important.
With regard to the club issue, in my club we don't give any group the tag of "beginers", we simply have fast / moderate / slow groups. Being Dubai and hot we stop for water every 3K or so in the summer so the faster groups jog back and pick up the slow group. Works fine. We also make sure there is always one experienced runner right at the back just in case.
No one should be frightened to join a club or enter a race, running is an all inclusive sport. Over the years I have had people just starting out say "your quicK' then 6 -12 months later they hurtle past me in a race. We have a lady in the club who two years ago swore she wouldn't ever break 2hrs 30 mins for the half marathon, this year she ran 1-55. As she says it was the running with better runners that made her speed up, thats what clubs do. I'm always runing with better faster runners for exactly the same reason it makes you quicker.
Power to you all whatever speed your running at
Nice one Dave!
I've been plucking up the courage to join my local club for ages. It's stupid really, 'cos I know they'll be really welcoming. They're quite small, but very active - their website shows all the routes that they use, with pictures as well! Each weekend they do a long run, with 3 different lengths on a similar route, so you can choose how far to go.
They're only in the next village, and I've seen them run past my house a few times.
OK, that's it - I'm going to join after my 10k on Sunday! It will be invaluable in the winter months, as I don't have any street lights around here, and they organise routes in the larger villages around here where there is lighting.
Kate Speed wrote (see)
I emailed someone from WRN in Swansea this week. Had a reply saying that she couldn't help as I wouldn't be good enough until I had done a beginners course and she wasn't going to be running one for a while. She then went on to totally contradict herself by saying that WRN is for runners of every ability - pah! It's put me off trying anywhere else now in case they all tell me I'm too crap...... Never mind, I shall carry on plodding away by myself.
Kate, I am really concerned someone from the WRN said this to you. I run the beginers group for South Manchester and I would be furious if people we're going away from contacting the WRN feeling like they weren't good enough.
Would you be kind enough to PM me and tell me what happened?
I also know Rio! from the forum is a WRN laydee from S.Wales and she is one of the nicest people on here, maybe she can help.
I have messaged you Farnie - hope it gets to you OK. The e-mail she sent me wasn't nasty or anything like that - she sounded very nice, it was just a bit "sorry I can't help you, contact someone else" kind of thing. I have contacted someone else - I'm not put off that easily , but I was left feeling as if I'm not good enough and that WRN aren't particularly helpful if you're a beginner.
Helen, I'm in Killay although I often go down and run along the sea front - there's too many steep hills in Killay!
but I was left feeling as if I'm not good enough and that WRN aren't particularly helpful if you're a beginner.
What a shame, because, everyone is good enough, everyone, even if you are still a walker, you should still be accomodated. And the WRN should be the perfect place for a beginner.
Also, Joanne, it is the responsibility of the group organiser to find out what standard people are and work out a route/training session that fits. It is not your job to tell them what you can and can't do, its for them to find out and act accordingly.
Right - thats it, everyone pack your stuff, you're all coming over to Manchester!
The sea front sounds like a great place to train, especially as that is where the 10k is!! I will def post when I am next in Swansea, should be in about 4 weeks or so.