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IM- Thank you for your comments, maybe I didn't mention on this thread, it might have been another one and I've forgotten to post it here, I have changed to a really low cal diet in the last few days and am eating below 1000cals now. I am not interested in nonsupportive peoples comments on this matter. It is a decision I have come to after many years of struggling with my weight and I am happy with it.
I would much rather be in similar position as beebs where I am struggling to keep off a little bit of excess weight rather than where I am just now. Unhappy and selfconscious because I don't look like ME. I can't afford to do something like Lighter Life so this is my way of getting similar results. From what I have read on the matter a diet between 800-1000cals a day for a short period can give very similar results to VLCD plans like LL and the Cambridge diet.
Started the diet on Tues and it is working, I know it is only the third day but I actually feel like I have more energy today and my run last night felt much better, I managed to run 110m further than previous (small steps but in the right direction). I had just over 700cals on Tues and did approx 250-300cals worth of walking (walked 5km but slower than usual as had toddler on a bike and for part of walk a 2yr old on a scooter). On Wed I ate 920cals and exercised approx 720cals between a fast walk and a late night run. Weight is down 4.6lb so far, a lot of fluid loss I know as drinking lots of water and weein lots, but a good kick start, and getting much better at drinking enough water. Not easy when you have a one year old who likes to climb, as getting to the toilet regularly isn't easy, good job I appear to have an enormous bladder.
TT ;0)
Although it cannot be denied that the only way to lose weight is to consume fewer calories than one uses up, it is also true that different methods work best for different people. And it is also true to say that it is perfectly possible to disagree with someone but to make one's point with respect and good manners.
Sass xx
Oh, and just going back to your opening post TT (gorgeous baby btw!), and apologies if these points have been made upthread:
isn't 140lb a bit low for 5ft 7?
and
would it help you (as it has others) to think in terms of increments, so first aiming for 210lb, then 205, then 200 etc?
Sass xx
Hi Sass,
Thank you for your lovely comments. I am thinking of my weightloss in stones. My first stone lost, which took a long time and i wasn't looking forward to another 2-3 years of trying to lose the rest at the rate is was taking that is how long it would have been, anyway my treat for my first stone loss was a new hairdo. Got it all chopped off and really happy with it. My treat for reaching goal weight is a new tattoo, I have one with my first daughter's name on it so have one already designed with my second daughter's name on it.
Looking for suggestions for the stones lost in between.
I was 144lb three years ago and it was a good weight for me, I want to be at a weight that I can fluctuate up and down by a few pounds and not be overweight looking. I was 126lb in my younger years so I know my frame suits being 140lbs without being too skinny. Hubby doesn't like the skinny look so would actively discourage me from going too far. I was quite a curvy person even at 9stone, whatever size I am my shape never changes, I have a small waist and big bum at 9stone and the same at 15st 5lb.
So need a treat (non-food) for reaching 14st 10lb, one for 13st 10lb, one 12st 10lb, one for 11st 10lb, one for 10st 10lb and already have one for 10st. So need suggestions for 5 treats, one for reaching each goal. Can't be too expensive as hopefully I will be reaching one every 5-7 weeks, fingers crossed.
TT ;0)
Having read all this, your ups and downs over the years, TT , (I'd also noticed your posting of your very low calorie intake for the day), IMHO, you'd be better off going to your GP/a slimming group and getting some contructed help.
I know that we all gain/lose differently, but I don't think that you're helping yourself with all these constant changes in approach and such low calorie intake. I understand that you can put your body into "crisis mode" when you consume too few calories, so it stores everything, and I wonder if that's what's happening to you.
If you can't get to/don't want to go to a (for example) WW/SW group, you can do it on-line, might just give you the defined plan to follow, which, combined with exercise, will allow you to lose weight at a steady rate and keep it off.
GA- I do like facials so that is an option, not to keen on manicures/pedicures always feel like they are too rough on my nails, filing them like they are filing a bit of wood LOL!
TT ;0)
GymAddict said that "I have found that some people (especially thin ones who have NEVER had a weight problem) see obesity as a self inflicted problem and there is that subtle (or not so subtle) hint that if you were just a little bit less greedy and less lazy then the weight would drop off."
As an formerly obese person I KNOW that it was a self-inflicted problem - I ate too much and took no exercise.
When I got less greedy, and less lazy, the weight did indeed drop off.
Lardarse is blunter than may be necessary, but he is basically right.
TT - when you ask for input on a public forum, you have to take the rough with the smooth.
If all you want it touchy-feely poor-you responses then you may do better on a forum which is intended for slimmers, rather than this one.
And, from what you posted, you know what you're talking about.
I've recently put on 2st (due to medical condition, now diagnosed and having to stop running for few months) so I've got that lot to shift. I joined SW two weeks ago and have found that following the programme combined with starting back at running has allowed me to lose some weight.
Can't stand the happy clappy bit, but if it means that I'll shift the 2st, then I'll put up with it to get where I would like to be at the end of it.
But it is a case of calories in v calories out and a long term solution rather than short term fix.
I don't think anyone on this thread has suggested for a minute that it isn't down to calories at the end of the day.
But what is needed for most of us is a strategy for getting that calorie deficit in a way that is sustainable and not too unpleasant
I was under the impression that, that, is what TT was after - I didn't get the ifeeling that she was under any illusions about the causes/cure for the situation - just support and encouragement and ideas to get off the plateau that most weight watchers get stuck on from time to time.
I used to post on a weight watchers board - now THAT got really nasty at times. I think this one's pretty good, civilised 90% of the time - obviously a discussion in type is always going to lead to misinterpretations - such is life.
Wilkie- I asked for input on my original question not on my subsequent decision to lower my calorie intake.
I have never believed that by cutting my calorie intake so drastically is a long term solution. It is a short time fix to the immediate problem of the excess weight, which will be followed by a gradual increase in my calorie intake over a reasonable period of time, that allows me to maintain my weight. In addition the lighter I am the easier it will be on my body to up the intensity/length of time I spend exercising, as won't be so hard on my joints (knees in particular).
Never asked for touchy feely poor you responses either, just not rude and offensive ones. I wouldn't walk up to a stranger in the street and call them fat, greedy and lazy so don't expect people to say it to me here.
As pointed out I have been strictly following a 1500cal diet until two days ago and it hadn't worked. Even if I wasn't exercising I should have lost weight on that diet-I was exercising though. So do not regard myself as greedy or lazy and I am also not a liar as implied by some other posts. Am also fed up having to repeat the same arguement over and over again. It has been said already, it's boring now and I don't know what you and others get out of raking it up over and over. If you don't like my thread then stay out of it and post somewhere else.
TT ;0)
Yeah, because restricting yourself to 800cals a day AND doing exercise isn't in anyway unpleasant is it?.
I know I said I wouldn't respond, but I can't help myself, this subject is too close to my heart to just let someone go so wrong.
Restricting yourself to this small amount of calories is firstly, completely counter productive, and secondly, not at all healthy.
I have no doubt that by doing this you will indeed lose weight, however, the long term weight implications of doing this are not to be taken lightly.
Again, its that quick fix mentality that will lead you to the same place again and again.
You may not like what I say, you may not agree with what I say, but what you are doing is wrong.
CJBA, lol at happy clappy bit of SW.
I joined on Monday and handed over my cheque for 6 week countdown , saying to leader, I can't stay for the meeting but will just come and be weighed. After the first 4 or 5 LL's I stopped the meetings too. I was fat because I ate and drank too much and feel lucky not to have big psychological issues. The reason this stone has crept back on is because I was slipping back to old bad habits.
TT ask the GP about seeing a dietitian when you go back for results. I fully see that SW meetings could be difficult but looking on the web site most leaders are happy to have the baby coming along too. Is there a day time group you could pop in to?
"I wouldn't walk up to a stranger in the street and call them fat, greedy and lazy so don't expect people to say it to me here."
Nobody said that, did they?
Picking up on Donawat's comment about exercise and low cal, I agree they are incompatible, when on LL which is about 500 cals a day, I could work, was a mad woman around the house but couldn't walk up hill and could only do very light stuff at gym.
Danowat: aaahh stop quoting me in support of arguments I did not make and when all was trying to do was keep the peace.
I didn't and would never recommend anyone to do a VLCD - the very though freaks me out. I believe you should NEVER go below NET BMR because of the impact on muscle mass. But I am not a specialist or a dietician and LL and these things are often doctor recommended so I am trying not to be too judgemental.
Doc didn't recommend me GA, but was fully supportive of signing me on for it, regualr blood pressure checks and I only did 14 weeks. I felt the benefits outweighed the risks. That said they are nutrionally designed to give you all vits etc. I don't want too jump on TT but do have some worries about doing your own VLCD, without medical checks.
I have discussed VLCD with NHS dietician (not for myself - out of nosiness) and their conclusion was that with proper checks etc it can be appropriate for some people.
TBH, you haven't had rude and offensive responses, nor has anyone called you fat, greedy and lazy.
You asked why you can't lose weight, the concerted opinion seems to be that on the very low calorie diet you've posted as following, you may not lose weight as it is too low - hence the suggestions that people have made - a lot based on their own experience, thus as I said above, with knowledge.
I know, it's awful isn't it - I cringe with embarrassment
, but sometimes, more for the leader who has to do this day in, day out, at each meeting
.
But, as I said, if it's the kick up the backside that I need to get me shifting this excess, then I'm not knocking it
Its just so unnessecary, and in my opinion, not the best way for someone who can still move (i.e. not massively obese).
Its not solving the problems of why you are overweight in the first place, losing and maintaining weight is something that everybody can do without resorting to something as severe as VLCD.
But nothing I say is going to alter the fact that TT will do it her way.
BTW, I am not arguing with anyone, I just have a different opinion to some people.
When I go back to doc next week I will mention it and they may suggest that I get checked regularly, although I am not restricting calories as much as on LL. A VLCD is considered under 800cals and I am aiming for between 800-1000cals so it is slightly different and side effects are less likely, but I am aware that I need to be careful. Although if I were following the slimfast plan I would be eating only an extra 200cals than I am just now and it is widely accepted as a safe diet to follow without regular gp checkups.
But I am not naive about what I am doing, I will monitor myself very carefully (with gp's assisstance if need be). Like you said LL, I feel the benefits outway the risks at present and if that changes then my actions will change accordingly.
TT ;0)
I have also found that a blowout once a week seems to kick your metabolism up a notch.
HTA I am glad it is working for you, best of luck on your weight loss.
TT ;0)
If you didn't want comment on your subsequent decision, why post it on the thread? It's bound to attract comment.
I don't think anyone has called you fat, greedy or lazy on this thread (LA's email was sent to you privately - you posted it here). I said that I used to be fat, greedy and lazy.
What makes you think I don't like your thread? If I didn't like it I would stay out of it.
The old garmin used to say I burnt 1500 on a 9 mile run, the new ones that work with a HRM say only 800. Thats an awful amount of beer I used to put away thinking I'd burnt it off.