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The Hoose-Goer wrote (see)
anybody can see my poo if they follow me on a run
Sarah - I know you say you'd rather believe her because she's at least given you some answers, but unless those answers are the right ones, you won't benefit. If you're willing to pay, you can find freelance dietitians - at least you know that the person you see is properly trained and is regulated. If you are intent on following this nutritionist's advice, at the very least only cut out one food at a time to see if there is any improvement in your symptoms. I'd also add that if you do have IBS, there is a strong psychological element to it - stress hormones can play havoc with your bowels. Eliminating particular foods won't make the slightest difference to your symptoms unless the source of the stress is dealt with. That's assuming of course that there is a stress element to your case - there might not be
Also, if you have been diagnosed with IBS, your GP should have referred you to a dietitian. Not to identify intolerances (if you ask for a referral on that basis the GP is likely to refuse) but to help you to formulate a diet and meal pattern that alleviates your symptoms. Once you've got your appointment you can discuss whatever issues are of concern to you So go back to the GP!
i have a special bush called George
I wont ask if you have a bush and what you call it, being the gentleman I am
Hoosie - behave yourself
You won't be allowed back on the nifties thread if you're not careful
Always happy to give advice Sarah - even when it's not wanted
You have every right to ask for a referral to a dietitian if you are having trouble in managing your symptoms - click here. (the bit where it says - 'such advice should only be given by a registered dietitian'). It's recommended in the NICE (National Institute for health and Clinical Excellence) guidelines, so should form the basis of care for IBS patients - your GP should be aware of this. Unless he or she is a registered dietitian then they have no right to expect you to make do with the advice they are capable of giving. I'm actually quite shocked that they would send you on to a nutritionist...
Information is power - now that you know, go back to your GP and make demands!
I have suffered with digestive problems so bad that I was doubled up in pain screaming and the symptoms didn't stop fully for a fortnight. I was so tired and ill through not being able to tolerate any real food by the end of it, it was ridiculous. My own doctor said "sometimes IBS does hurt a bit" I was living on cereal and water because everything else made me spasm.
The IBS pain was very similar to labour contractions and eventually I got an out of hours doctor to take it seriously and sort out the pain relief and refer me. My own doctor would've left me there suffering quite happily. I have multiple full blown allergies and since my diagnosis, I have only suffered a couple of mild instances of IBS pain.
There doesn't seem to be enough dietiticans these days for the people who may need them and doctors in my area seems to prefer you to go away and leave them alone.
Sing from the rooftops Sarah if you've got an issue - you might have to fight for it!
Are you able to eat corn, would polenta be OK? And you can make most things with risotto rice that you would otherwise have made with pasta, rice doesn't have to be a boring old heap on the side. Good luck and hope you find a solution to your IBS.
Arborio risotto rice is fabulous!
Its rotten when you're going through it though - I hope you feel better soon.
5 years ago I found out I was coeliac and had to make drastic changes to my diet.
You will find that if you cannot tolerate gluten you should avoid Oats, rye, barley, couscous, msg and soy sauce too.
Doves farm do a brillant brown rice pasta, but most supermarkets also do good free from ranges, once you get used to the new textures it becomes easier - wtch the calorie contnet though, a "normal" pain au chocolate contains around 250 calories but a sainsburies free from version will have 400.
Watch out for sausages and burgers too, gravy and flour based sauces. I no longer miss normal versions as the free from ranges are vastly improved and offer much more variety.
Quinoa is great when you're bored of rice - Good luck with the new regime - I would try it for two weeks then reintroduce one thing at a time for a week and measure your reactions so you know exactly what triggers your symptoms before cutting everything out.
Thanks Natalie - and yes I agree you do need to be careful with sauces, gravies etc and watch the calories on the free from range.
Where do you buy Doves Farm brown pasta? - I buy their flours but have never seen their brown pasta in the major supermarkets.
I make my own beef burgers and buy GF sausages from local butchers - most butchers are obliging if you ask - you can also buy GF sausages in M&S.
Like you I no longer miss the normal versions and am amazed at the variety of GF & Free From ranges.
I like to use quinoa as a subsitute for burger wheat and coucous. When running in the mornings I find Sainsbury's free from porridge quite good, it does not taste like badly made rice pudding like other brands.
Are you listening Editor - Can I suggest that Runner's World do a special on Gluten Free in their nutrition section - I am sure there must be several runners who are Coeliacs.
I've never found any g-f stuff in my local M+S's (apart from a fruit cake) - and that includes a large out-of-town store.
If you compare them with Waitrose (who'd be most similar) and the other supermarkets, I think they're disappointing as they do an extremely limited range of g-f food and I've never found any soya products (yoghurts/milks etc).
They might do damn good underwear but their "free-from" approach leaves a little to be desired
You are right regarding M&S, they do not have a Free From section; it was my hubby who found the GF sausages by reading the ingredients, although I tend to mainly use my butcher for GF sausages. As, how much time can you spare reading ingredients!
And I now need reading glasses
My butcher will do g-f sausages, but you need to order min 5lbs - that's a lot of sausage
Mind you, he was very kind, I was looking at some lamb things they had and they insisted on checking the ingredients as they weren't sure if they were g-f. Turned out they weren't, so to my butcher.
to my local baker who said that they made g-f bread every week and promised to call me when they had some in. That was back in June and I'm still waiting...
I got the Doves Farm brown rice pasta from swindon pulse, when I was actually looking for Booja Booja dairy free ice cream (for my hubby - it's amazing).
Also Mrs Crimbles do a great fresh bread (sainsburys) genius (tesco) is also good.
Black farmer sausages are safe for coeliacs.
Tesco Finest also now do a g-f sausage, pretty damn good.
Debby and Andrews of Harrogate is g-f, but I'm not so keen on those.
Some of supermarket own-label are g-f when they are the continental versions - they don't contain wheat although aren't specifically sold as g-f - it's just the way they're made - based on French sasuages which don't generally have the rusk etc you get in English bangers.
I too am a coeliac ( This is getting a bit like a AA meeting) having been finally diagnosed two years ago. Most of the time I'm pretty good about it abut occassionally I admit to having the odd beer, does me no good whatsover and it will take me a week to recover but hey life's short. Small amounts of wheat such as in sausages seems to have no effect on me, but each two slices of toast and I'll know all about it.
As far as bread goes buy a breadmaker, Doves farm flour, follow the recipe on the back of teh pack and away you go, freezes well too. To be honest i don't find it a problem to stay GF when I'm home its much harder when away on buisness trips.
Dave!! Don't do it!! Even if you don't get symptoms from small amounts of gluten, your gut knows about it and there's all those long-term consequences to think of!
I'll admit to falling off the wagon (definitely sounds like an AA meeting... ) myself, but blimey, I really knew about it! Sometimes I'd kill for a sandwich when I'm out and about, but it just ain't worth it!
Just to let you know, Mrs. Crimbles is on offer at the moment in Sainsburys. Stock up while it's a bit cheaper than usual!!
Hi Dubai Dave - You can buy GFbeer but obviously not as good as the real stuff. I have gone onto to drinking Koppaberg pear cider - if you like cider this is better than Gaymers or Bulmers.
With regards to no effects from some gluten containing foods - I have had it drilled into me my consultant and also the dietician, that even if you do not feel any ill effect you are still damaging your gut, when eating gluten containing foods..
I do own a breadmaker and use Julvela's Fibre Mix (you can get it on presrciption); it makes very good bread, any I do not use I slice and freeze - need to freeze befoer it gets dry and crumbley, but I will try their bread flour. I use Doves GF flour for cakes and fruit crumbles.
I sympathise with you on business trips - I have the same problem when travelling abroad