when you get desperate enough to do an order next year Cake I will pass on the details........

the minimum buff order was over £1500 and when it was time to order we only had names down for half of them.......

a kindly pirate offerred to pay for the balance so that we could go ahead with the order............as it turned out I didn't have to take advantage of their kind offer as they all went within a month or so............as soon as the word got around and people saw them then they all went.

Alas don't have credit cards or enough cash each month to be able to place order myself. Got in touble with the nice bank manager a few years back. Long story.

I'm fine paying up whenever you want JD ? And I'd round the bottle cost up just so we overpay rather than underpay.

Is it worth asking how scuff resistant the printing will be ? Most bottles have been fine, but some of the ones I've used lost their design very easily - I think Foska was like that for me.

I know the La Santa and Ironman bottles keep their print on though.

i'll check about the skuffing you mention. it looks like the design is done with a film wrapped around the bottle. the bottles on the site look pretty tough though. also, if you subscribed to triathlete europe and got the free bottle (that's what got me thinking about it as every bottle i have is branded differently showing my individuality), it's the same people we're getting to make ours. read a website that just said look on your nice bottles and see who made them.

actually the cervelo test team made teh nicest bottle i've got, but i couldn't track down the maker i think. or they needed something like 5000 ordered minimum which is a few bottles beyond us.

I had a cervelo bottle in a goody bag from a sportive, lid broke about the fifth time I used it. My SIS ones have lasted forever though (with regular Milton-ing!)

I tell you what I would also like if you need more ideas and that's a decent Pirate branded sports bag. The IMCH bag I got was great for about 3 months and is now falling to bits so if anyone is with me on this, I am happy to find out more and try and see what can be organised. I have a feeling they can be bought and branded Pirate but also each with a unique name on the side i.e. your name! whoopy!

Aliaird x2 Artful Hen x 4 Barley x4 Bedders x4 Cake x2 Callycat x2 Cona x4 Cougie x4 Crashie/Squishy x4 Donald x2 Ditchy x4 Farnie x2 Flyaway x4 Fraggle x 2 Gazmanmeister x4 Hope x2 K9 x2 kittenkat x2 Little N x2 Loser Baz x2 Magna Carter x2 Meldy x2 M.ister W x2 Purple x2 Rio x2 Seren x2 Schmunkee x2 Shiva x2 Silent Assassin x8 Slimshady x2 Sore Shins x2 Soup Dragon x2 Sue x2 Tommygun2 x4 Trogs x 4

Only comment I would have is that I really like the SIS rubbery made tit-thing you suck on () rather than the horrid tasting plastic ones? Are these ones rubber or plastic, do you know?

Works well, I was told by a cyclist that you should do them weekly if there used often. I try and do them once a month if I can remember. The smell usually reminds me

Just a caution - especially to those racing at Roth. Don't use your Pirate bottles during the race, at the drinks stations you're expected to exchange your empty bottles for full ones. I always take old ones with me.

This is the case at all Half Ironman and Ironman distance races.

That said you can ride without exchanging bottles, I just use one bottle on my downtube which is full of a 4-5 x strength migture of energy drink. I decant a portion of this into my aerobottle just before feedstations and then top up with water.

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when you get desperate enough to do an order next year Cake I will pass on the details........

the minimum buff order was over £1500 and when it was time to order we only had names down for half of them.......

a kindly pirate offerred to pay for the balance so that we could go ahead with the order............as it turned out I didn't have to take advantage of their kind offer as they all went within a month or so............as soon as the word got around and people saw them then they all went.

Is it worth asking how scuff resistant the printing will be ? Most bottles have been fine, but some of the ones I've used lost their design very easily - I think Foska was like that for me.

I know the La Santa and Ironman bottles keep their print on though.

Cheers !

thanks cougie. i'll round it up slightly.

i'll check about the skuffing you mention. it looks like the design is done with a film wrapped around the bottle. the bottles on the site look pretty tough though. also, if you subscribed to triathlete europe and got the free bottle (that's what got me thinking about it as every bottle i have is branded differently showing my individuality), it's the same people we're getting to make ours. read a website that just said look on your nice bottles and see who made them.

actually the cervelo test team made teh nicest bottle i've got, but i couldn't track down the maker i think. or they needed something like 5000 ordered minimum which is a few bottles beyond us.

I didnt get a bottle with my triathlete sub - just a teeshirt. Pah.

Cheers !

ah, i've only just signed up so a bottle is what you get now.

did a bit of googling and it seems the bottles are basically SIS bottles. so that's good. but i can't find out much about their printing.

JD - these bottles are a great idea.

I tell you what I would also like if you need more ideas and that's a decent Pirate branded sports bag. The IMCH bag I got was great for about 3 months and is now falling to bits so if anyone is with me on this, I am happy to find out more and try and see what can be organised. I have a feeling they can be bought and branded Pirate but also each with a unique name on the side i.e. your name! whoopy!

Water bottlesAliaird x2

Artful Hen x 4

Barley x4

Bedders x4

Cake x2

Callycat x2

Cona x4

Cougie x4

Crashie/Squishy x4

Donald x2

Ditchy x4

Farnie x2

Flyaway x4

Fraggle x 2

Gazmanmeister x4

Hope x2

K9 x2

kittenkat x2

Little N x2

Loser Baz x2

Magna Carter x2

Meldy x2

M.ister W x2

Purple x2

Rio x2

Seren x2

Schmunkee x2

Shiva x2

Silent Assassin x8

Slimshady x2

Sore Shins x2

Soup Dragon x2

Sue x2

Tommygun2 x4

Trogs x 4

Only comment I would have is that I really like the SIS rubbery made tit-thing you suck on () rather than the horrid tasting plastic ones? Are these ones rubber or plastic, do you know?

Not a huge deal but would be great if rubberised.

Water bottlesAliaird x2

Artful Hen x 4

Barley x4

Bedders x4

Cake x2

Callycat x2

Cona x4

Cougie x4

Crashie/Squishy x4

Donald x2

Ditchy x4

Farnie x2

Flyaway x4

Fraggle x 2

Gazmanmeister x4

Hope x2

K9 x2

kittenkat x2

Little N x2

Loser Baz x2

Magna Carter x2

Meldy x2

M.ister W x2

Purple x2

Rio x2

Seren x2

Schmunkee x2

Shiva x2

Silent Assassin x8

Slimshady x2

Sore Shins x2

Soup Dragon x2

Sue x2

Tommygun2 x4

Trogs x 4

Trickster x2

Works well, I was told by a cyclist that you should do them weekly if there used often. I try and do them once a month if I can remember. The smell usually reminds me

.

Water bottlesAliaird x2

Artful Hen x 4

Barley x4

Bedders x4

Cake x2

Callycat x2

Cona x4

Cougie x4

Crashie/Squishy x4

Donald x2

Ditchy x4

Farnie x2

Flyaway x4

Fraggle x 2

Gazmanmeister x4

Hope x2

K9 x2

kittenkat x2

Little N x2

Loser Baz x2

Magna Carter x2

Meldy x2

M.ister W x2

OrangeCannon/Shuffle Bunny x6

Purple x2

Rio x2

Seren x2

Schmunkee x2

Shiva x2

Silent Assassin x8

Slimshady x2

Sore Shins x2

Soup Dragon x2

Sue x2

Tommygun2 x4

Trogs x 4

Trickster x2

Aliaird x2

Artful Hen x 4

Barley x4

Bedders x4

Cake x2

Callycat x2

Cona x4

Cougie x4

Crashie/Squishy x4

Donald x2

Ditchy x4

Farnie x2

Flyaway x4

Fraggle x 2

Gazmanmeister x4

Hope x2

Joggerchick x 2

K9 x2

kittenkat x2

Little N x2

Loser Baz x2

Magna Carter x2

Meldy x2

M.ister W x2

OrangeCannon/Shuffle Bunny x6

Purple x2

Rio x2

Seren x2

Schmunkee x2

Shiva x2

Silent Assassin x8

Slimshady x2

Sore Shins x2

Soup Dragon x2

Sue x2

Tommygun2 x4

Trogs x 4

Trickster x2

Aliaird x2

Artful Hen x 4

Barley x4

Bedders x4

BMBecky x2

Cake x2

Callycat x2

Cona x4

Cougie x4

Crashie/Squishy x4

Donald x2

Ditchy x4

Farnie x2

Flyaway x4

Fraggle x 2

Gazmanmeister x4

Hope x2

Joggerchick x 2

K9 x2

kittenkat x2

Little N x2

Loser Baz x2

Magna Carter x2

Meldy x2

M.ister W x2

OrangeCannon/Shuffle Bunny x6

Purple x2

Rio x2

Seren x2

Schmunkee x2

Shiva x2

Silent Assassin x8

Slimshady x2

Sore Shins x2

Soup Dragon x2

Sue x2

Tommygun2 x4

Trogs x 4

Trickster x2

D'oh, I try and put it in alphabetically and my double spacing ruins the list - how do I stop it doing that?!

Aliaird x2

Artful Hen x 4

Barley x4

Bedders x4

BMBecky x2

Cake x2

Callycat x2

Cona x4

Cougie x4

Crashie/Squishy x4

Donald x2

Ditchy x4

Farnie x2

Flyaway x4

Fraggle x 2

Gazmanmeister x4

Hope x2

Joggerchick x 2

K9 x2

kittenkat x2

Little N x2

Loser Baz x2

Magna Carter x2

Meldy x2

M.ister W x2

OrangeCannon/Shuffle Bunny x6

Purple x2

Rio x2

Seren x2

Schmunkee x2

Shiva x2

Silent Assassin x8

Slimshady x2

Sore Shins x2

Soup Dragon x2

Sue x2

Tommygun2 x4

Trogs x 4

Trickster x2

Kids these days

Artful Hen x 4

Barley x4

Bedders x4

BMBecky x2

Cake x2

Callycat x2

Cona x4

Cougie x4

Crashie/Squishy x4

Donald x2

Ditchy x4

Farnie x2

Flyaway x4

Fraggle x 2

Gazmanmeister x4

Hope x2

Ironwolf/LJS x 4

Joggerchick x 2

K9 x2

kittenkat x2

Little N x2

Loser Baz x2

Magna Carter x2

Meldy x2

M.ister W x2

OrangeCannon/Shuffle Bunny x6

Podds x 2

Purple x2

Rio x2

Seren x2

Schmunkee x2

Shiva x2

Silent Assassin x8

Slimshady x2

Sore Shins x2

Soup Dragon x2

Sue x2

Tommygun2 x4

Trogs x 4

Trickster x2

Artful Hen x 4

Barley x4

Bedders x4

BMBecky x2

Cake x2

Callycat x2

Cona x4

Cougie x4

Crashie/Squishy x4

Donald x2

Ditchy x4

Farnie x2

Flyaway x4

Fraggle x 2

Gazmanmeister x4

Hope x2

Ironwolf/LJS x 4

Joggerchick x 2

K9 x2

kittenkat x2

Little N x2

Loser Baz x2

Magna Carter x2

Meldy x2

M.ister W x2

OrangeCannon/Shuffle Bunny x6

Podds x 2

Purple x2

Rio x2

Rodeo x 4

Seren x2

Schmunkee x2

Shiva x2

Silent Assassin x8

Slimshady x2

Sore Shins x2

Soup Dragon x2

Sue x2

Tommygun2 x4

Trogs x 4

Trickster x2