Striking the ground is a deliberate act by actually running. You cant run without leaving contact with the ground and then coming back into contact with it. And contact is a word they use in boxing too, when one boxer strikes/hits their opponent.
Look it's pretty simple really . You don't try to strike the ground, instead you try to miss the ground completely, but you must fail to do this thus landing on the ground unintentionally.
Track spikes are designed for forefoot running with barely any heel contact -great for stride length and speed but hard to sustain when bringing news about a distant (26.2miles) battle on foot round a vase,
I'm a forefoot "striking" supinator and I think it does spread impact through the ankles. Also, by touching down rather than braking with the heel there is better momentum. The downside is a tendency to arch strains and it is useless for a marathon where low lift and is most economical.
btw are you scandinavian Ricky? if so. maybe you have some tips about running on ice...perhaps using blades and teeth but only using toes to stop??
Tell me, Ricky, are you so thick skinned that you're oblivious to our p1ss taking or so stupid that you think you have discovered something revolutionary or useful to runners?
Maybe this is a bit of a physics lesson for you Ricky, but how do you move without trying to impart some kind of force on the ground?
Ever hear of Newton?
1: In the absence of a force a body remains at rest (or travels in a straight line at constant speed) 2: FORCE = mass x acceleration (which i'm sure you'll agree is necessary to at least start running?) 3: Every action has an equal and opposite reaction (i.e. your muscles push exerting a force which makes you and the ground move relative to each other).
But then again Greek pottery was around ages before modern science, so it must be superior.....
Ricky good to see your moving around the site Im sure the guys and gals on Tri will be thrilled to have you around
Anyway you say that forefoot striking is the preferred method of running could you provide some proof please at least Chi, Evo,Pose etc back their claims with evidence even if its the vaguest.
I know you love pottery but weve seen those pieces of data but they dont really cover it.
It seems that stike may be usable in more than one context. I've only included the first 25 out of 77 given on dictionary.com
Interesting that in baseball a strike happens with the ball isn't hit. I like to think that the definition that best fits my foot STRIKE is No.5
–verb (used with object) 1.to deal a blow or stroke to (a person or thing), as with the fist, a weapon, or a hammer; hit.2.to inflict, deliver, or deal (a blow, stroke, attack, etc.).3.to drive so as to cause impact: to strike the hands together. 4.to thrust forcibly: Brutus struck a dagger into the dying Caesar. 5.to produce (fire, sparks, light, etc.) by percussion, friction, etc.6.to cause (a match) to ignite by friction.7.(of some natural or supernatural agency) to smite or blast: Lightning struck the spire. May God strike you dead! 8.to come into forcible contact or collision with; hit into or against: The ship struck a rock. 9.to reach or fall upon (the senses), as light or sound: A shrill peal of bells struck their ears. 10.to enter the mind of; occur to: A happy thought struck him. 11.to catch or arrest (the sight, hearing, etc.): the first object that strikes one's eye. 12.to impress strongly: a picture that strikes one's fancy. 13.to impress in a particular manner: How does it strike you? 14.to come across, meet with, or encounter suddenly or unexpectedly: to strike the name of a friend in a newspaper. 15.to come upon or find (oil, ore, etc.) in drilling, prospecting, or the like.16.to send down or put forth (a root), as a plant or cutting.17.to arrive at or achieve by or as by balancing: to strike a balance; to strike a compromise. 18.to take apart or pull down (a structure or object, as a tent).19.to remove from the stage (the scenery and properties of an act or scene): to strike a set. 20.Nautical. a.to lower or take down (a sail, mast, etc.).b.to lower (a sail, flag, etc.) as a salute or as a sign of surrender.c.to lower (something) into the hold of a vessel by means of a rope and tackle.21.Falconry. to loosen (a hood) from the head of a hawk so that it may be instantly removed.22.Angling. a.to hook (a fish that has taken the bait) by making a sharp jerk on the line.b.(of a fish) to snatch at (the bait).23.to harpoon (a whale).24.(in technical use) to make level or smooth.25.to make level or even, as a measure of grain or salt, by drawing a strickle across the top.
It seems that stike may be usable in more than one context. I've only included the first 25 out of 77 given on dictionary.com
Interesting that in baseball a strike happens with the ball isn't hit. I like to think that the definition that best fits my foot STRIKE is No.5
–verb (used with object) 1.to deal a blow or stroke to (a person or thing), as with the fist, a weapon, or a hammer; hit.2.to inflict, deliver, or deal (a blow, stroke, attack, etc.).3.to drive so as to cause impact: to strike the hands together. 4.to thrust forcibly: Brutus struck a dagger into the dying Caesar. 5.to produce (fire, sparks, light, etc.) by percussion, friction, etc.6.to cause (a match) to ignite by friction.7.(of some natural or supernatural agency) to smite or blast: Lightning struck the spire. May God strike you dead! 8.to come into forcible contact or collision with; hit into or against: The ship struck a rock. 9.to reach or fall upon (the senses), as light or sound: A shrill peal of bells struck their ears. 10.to enter the mind of; occur to: A happy thought struck him. 11.to catch or arrest (the sight, hearing, etc.): the first object that strikes one's eye. 12.to impress strongly: a picture that strikes one's fancy. 13.to impress in a particular manner: How does it strike you? 14.to come across, meet with, or encounter suddenly or unexpectedly: to strike the name of a friend in a newspaper. 15.to come upon or find (oil, ore, etc.) in drilling, prospecting, or the like.16.to send down or put forth (a root), as a plant or cutting.17.to arrive at or achieve by or as by balancing: to strike a balance; to strike a compromise. 18.to take apart or pull down (a structure or object, as a tent).19.to remove from the stage (the scenery and properties of an act or scene): to strike a set. 20.Nautical. a.to lower or take down (a sail, mast, etc.).b.to lower (a sail, flag, etc.) as a salute or as a sign of surrender.c.to lower (something) into the hold of a vessel by means of a rope and tackle.21.Falconry. to loosen (a hood) from the head of a hawk so that it may be instantly removed.22.Angling. a.to hook (a fish that has taken the bait) by making a sharp jerk on the line.b.(of a fish) to snatch at (the bait).23.to harpoon (a whale).24.(in technical use) to make level or smooth.25.to make level or even, as a measure of grain or salt, by drawing a strickle across the top.
NIce! I take it you had a bit of free time , My favourite is no. 7
If no. 16 applies to a runner then they must be running too hard!!
4 out of 24, not bad, only 20 meanings that don't.
Here are a few more... It means:- 'to deliver'; 'to come to or cause'; 'to press'; 'to indicate'; 'to render'; 'to affect or cause to affect deeply'; 'to enter the mind of'; 'to be perceived by'; 'to arrive at or come upon'; 'to set (out) or proceed, esp upon a new course'; 'to discover'; '(of a plant) to produce or send down (a root or roots)'; 'to take apart or pack up; break'; 'to take down or dismantle'; 'to form or impress (a coin, metal, etc) by or as if by stamping'; ' to win, strike it rich, strike lucky'; 'rowing to make (a certain number of strokes) per minute'; 'to reach by agreement'; 'to assume or take up'; 'to level (a surface) by use of a flat board'; 'to impale the hook in the mouth of (a fish) by suddenly tightening or jerking the line after the bait or fly has been taken'; 'nautical a) to lower or remove (a specified piece of gear) b) to haul down or dip (a flag, sail, etc) in salute or in surrender c) to lower (cargo, etc) into the hold of a ship';
We are now much better informed about the meaning of the word, if not actually any the wiser for it. How will this influence how we run?
I will admit that I have seen treadmill runners who have been really stomping along, and they would very likely hurt themselves in the unlikely event that they ever did run on road. However I'm pretty sure they have never been told anything about how to run let alone been told about striking the ground.
Strike as in to hit something forcibly is the most common modern usage.
I disagree.
Strike as striking a match - something I do every day. Strike as in he or she strikes me as - very frquent. Strike as in to hit, not something I ever use or say. If it's related to boxing then it's jargon that I don't use. I can not agree that using the word strike to mean hit is the most common modern usage of the word.
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Striking the ground is a deliberate act by actually running. You cant run without leaving contact with the ground and then coming back into contact with it. And contact is a word they use in boxing too, when one boxer strikes/hits their opponent.
"Strike" doesn't "insinuate" anything.... at a push it might "imply" something....
Track spikes are designed for forefoot running with barely any heel contact -great for stride length and speed but hard to sustain when bringing news about a distant (26.2miles) battle on foot round a vase,
I'm a forefoot "striking" supinator and I think it does spread impact through the ankles. Also, by touching down rather than braking with the heel there is better momentum. The downside is a tendency to arch strains and it is useless for a marathon where low lift and is most economical.
btw are you scandinavian Ricky? if so. maybe you have some tips about running on ice...perhaps using blades and teeth but only using toes to stop??
Hey Ricky. What happened? Weren't you having a good time on your original thread on this subject?
Tell me, Ricky, are you so thick skinned that you're oblivious to our p1ss taking or so stupid that you think you have discovered something revolutionary or useful to runners?
Maybe this is a bit of a physics lesson for you Ricky, but how do you move without trying to impart some kind of force on the ground?
Ever hear of Newton?
1: In the absence of a force a body remains at rest (or travels in a straight line at constant speed)
2: FORCE = mass x acceleration (which i'm sure you'll agree is necessary to at least start running?)
3: Every action has an equal and opposite reaction (i.e. your muscles push exerting a force which makes you and the ground move relative to each other).
But then again Greek pottery was around ages before modern science, so it must be superior.....
12.
Perhaps 13.
So if I strike up a conversation with my neighbour I'm actually having a fight with him? I don't think so.
Hiya everyone
Ricky good to see your moving around the site Im sure the guys and gals on Tri will be thrilled to have you around
Anyway you say that forefoot striking is the preferred method of running could you provide some proof please at least Chi, Evo,Pose etc back their claims with evidence even if its the vaguest.
I know you love pottery but weve seen those pieces of data but they dont really cover it.
Striking is a totaly different thing.
Is it not a huddle of men around a brazier outside of the factory gates.
So if I were to say (for example) that a woman looks striking, what I really mean is that she looks as though she has been hit by something?
Ricky B I think you've been struck by something......possibly a meteorite
It seems that stike may be usable in more than one context. I've only included the first 25 out of 77 given on dictionary.com
Interesting that in baseball a strike happens with the ball isn't hit. I like to think that the definition that best fits my foot STRIKE is No.5
–verb (used with object) 1.to deal a blow or stroke to (a person or thing), as with the fist, a weapon, or a hammer; hit.2.to inflict, deliver, or deal (a blow, stroke, attack, etc.).3.to drive so as to cause impact: to strike the hands together. 4.to thrust forcibly: Brutus struck a dagger into the dying Caesar. 5.to produce (fire, sparks, light, etc.) by percussion, friction, etc.6.to cause (a match) to ignite by friction.7.(of some natural or supernatural agency) to smite or blast: Lightning struck the spire. May God strike you dead! 8.to come into forcible contact or collision with; hit into or against: The ship struck a rock. 9.to reach or fall upon (the senses), as light or sound: A shrill peal of bells struck their ears. 10.to enter the mind of; occur to: A happy thought struck him. 11.to catch or arrest (the sight, hearing, etc.): the first object that strikes one's eye. 12.to impress strongly: a picture that strikes one's fancy. 13.to impress in a particular manner: How does it strike you? 14.to come across, meet with, or encounter suddenly or unexpectedly: to strike the name of a friend in a newspaper. 15.to come upon or find (oil, ore, etc.) in drilling, prospecting, or the like.16.to send down or put forth (a root), as a plant or cutting.17.to arrive at or achieve by or as by balancing: to strike a balance; to strike a compromise. 18.to take apart or pull down (a structure or object, as a tent).19.to remove from the stage (the scenery and properties of an act or scene): to strike a set. 20.Nautical. a.to lower or take down (a sail, mast, etc.).b.to lower (a sail, flag, etc.) as a salute or as a sign of surrender.c.to lower (something) into the hold of a vessel by means of a rope and tackle.21.Falconry. to loosen (a hood) from the head of a hawk so that it may be instantly removed.22.Angling. a.to hook (a fish that has taken the bait) by making a sharp jerk on the line.b.(of a fish) to snatch at (the bait).23.to harpoon (a whale).24.(in technical use) to make level or smooth.25.to make level or even, as a measure of grain or salt, by drawing a strickle across the top.NIce! I take it you had a bit of free time , My favourite is no. 7
If no. 16 applies to a runner then they must be running too hard!!
Them bones, them bones.
Not the other 73 then?
Here are a few more...
It means:-
'to deliver'; 'to come to or cause'; 'to press'; 'to indicate'; 'to render'; 'to affect or cause to affect deeply'; 'to enter the mind of'; 'to be perceived by'; 'to arrive at or come upon'; 'to set (out) or proceed, esp upon a new course'; 'to discover'; '(of a plant) to produce or send down (a root or roots)'; 'to take apart or pack up; break'; 'to take down or dismantle'; 'to form or impress (a coin, metal, etc) by or as if by stamping'; ' to win, strike it rich, strike lucky'; 'rowing to make (a certain number of strokes) per minute'; 'to reach by agreement'; 'to assume or take up'; 'to level (a surface) by use of a flat board'; 'to impale the hook in the mouth of (a fish) by suddenly tightening or jerking the line after the bait or fly has been taken'; 'nautical a) to lower or remove (a specified piece of gear) b) to haul down or dip (a flag, sail, etc) in salute or in surrender c) to lower (cargo, etc) into the hold of a ship';
Strike as in to hit something forcibly is the most common modern usage.
We are now much better informed about the meaning of the word, if not actually any the wiser for it.
How will this influence how we run?
I will admit that I have seen treadmill runners who have been really stomping along, and they would very likely hurt themselves in the unlikely event that they ever did run on road. However I'm pretty sure they have never been told anything about how to run let alone been told about striking the ground.
I disagree.
Strike as striking a match - something I do every day. Strike as in he or she strikes me as - very frquent. Strike as in to hit, not something I ever use or say. If it's related to boxing then it's jargon that I don't use.
I can not agree that using the word strike to mean hit is the most common modern usage of the word.
What strikes me most is that the author may be suffering from tunnel vision.