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What a haul for the thread over the weekend! Hope you both don't mind if we all bask vicariously in your success.
Simon, firstly, you can't go over to the European Championships, win a medal, and then write four lines about it like it was a casual 1500 in the vets league in Hemel Hempstead or something. We need build up, drama, through your words we need to hear the roar of the crowd and feel the weighty feel of cold, hard, well-earned bronze against our chests. But brilliant work on the race itself, easing through the rounds and then unleashing an excellent performance like that in the final to get that well-deserved medal. It's fair to say it's probably not been a vintage year for you, but this is a real high to remember, and really impressive. I was delighted when I saw you'd medalled.
Despite his own uncertainty, I never doubted that Dean would medal. That kind of closing speed is pretty rare anywhere, but in the over 40s it is like gold dust, and felt certain that it would win out. Great report too, real rollercoaster of emotions going on then, and culminating in an awesome silver. Terrifying to think you'll be in the 45s soon. Will give the video a watch later. Cracking stuff, and again well deserved after never losing your focus after an up and down season. Great stuff.
Good to hear you met Duncan, he is indeed a very sound bloke. He and I joined the club on the same evening in 2011. We did an induction session that involved an all out 400. Think I hadn't even entered the finishing straight when he finished.
Dachs you strike me as someone that has a long term plan, does turning 40 include having a crack at an event like this, surely now we are looking at getting everyone on the thread an international vest!
Must be a lot of pressure doing all that training for such a short race though.
Bus - Good to see the mileage slowly building back up again.
Ric - Re the injury link, the cycling has no obvious link to the hamstring, it was the morning after a tempo/interval session that feature a bit of dog hurdling, I think it's safe to say that's the cause. Longer term I have come off the back of a marathon and a 15 mile run in the space of a few weeks so I should be more careful with that in mind.
Good news is my hamstring feels ok today. I reckon I could run but I will leave it one more day to be safe.
Nice hill reps SG, I just lost a Strava CR for a hill in Wales.
Yep. But I didn't want to do it as a V35, wanted to wait until I turned 40 and became a 'proper' vet. Got to give yourself some reason to welcome hitting that milestone.
I wanted to go down to the track on Friday and get a club session in. The track is halfway between work and home, so the way it works is that I jog 2 miles to track, do the session, then jog 2 miles home. Anyway, I get to the basement to get changed at just before 6 on Friday, only to find that all my clothes have been cleared out of the drier. There is a sign up saying that clothes left there at 5:30 on the last Friday of the month will be assumed to have been abandoned and will be removed. That sign has been there for ages and it has never happened. There is a number to ring, but everyone's gone home. Go and ask security, they have no idea. Ask the cleaners, they have no idea. I am livid at this point, and briefly consider running to the track and doing a session in my work clothes out of bloody-minded frustration. In the end, I have to walk to Decathlon, buy a whole new set of running clothes, get changed round the back of Decathlon like a tramp, then run to the track. By that time everyone else is half an hour into their session. Bloody arses.
And that description is longer than Simon's report about his European medal.
It speaks well of this thread that it's inhabited by all standards of runners including some of us who don't appear to run anymore. Soon, I'm sure. The knees have almost stopped complaining.
Anyway, the reports from the top are great. That's the point. Where else can winners feel free to expand and expound upon the details regarding a thrashing meted out without appearing to be showing off.
It isn't of course. The average runner grabs any chance to listen to details of victory straight from the horses mouth. It's as close as most of us will get.
Usually, the winners want to tell all, but can't unless prompted.
At one gathering I declared "Mike, didn't you once run 64 minutes for a half marathon?". That caught everyone's attention. Did you really? tell us about it.
He'd been waiting about 15 years to talk about that one. Brilliant. It's things like, "At eight miles I threw in a couple of 4:40's to break up the pack".
To Scott E. The most stoical member; good luck with the latest op. All due respect to our latest international medalists, I believe Scott was destined to move in pretty high running circles.
One set back after another. There's no end to it.
It's like Henry Blofield the cricket commentator. As a schoolboy he was marked down as potentially the greatest cricketer England had ever produced. Then he got knocked off his bicycle, hit his head, and that was the end of it. We'll never know what could have been.
SG, did you really manage sub 6 pace uphill. Most I could manage over a similar distance was about 7's.
Reg, yes the dog. Bloody shit machines.
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Double bike yesterday and 7 miles early doors this morning. Slow, but otherwise OK. Saw the physio about my shoulder this morning. The good news is she is certain it's not anything terminal. The bad news is she wants me to try not cycling as she thinks it is a posture thing (it started when I swapped my flat bar bike for drops, and intensified cycling, so she may have a point!). I'll try the stretches first, avoid the drops and see what happens.....
SG, who is this everyone else? I don't know anyone apart from people on this thread who run to work and back, so I'm not sure there is such a thing as everyone else in this context. I've got enough crap on my back without taking an entirely different set of running gear for the route back. I mean, the morning commute is 5 miles. I'd like to think I'm fit enough to not soak my clothes in sweat on an easy 5 mile run. And anyway - if you were running 10 miles as opposed to 5 + 5, presumably you're not dashing into a phone box to change at halfway like Clark Kent, so how is that any different?
Anyway, I appear to have started a discussion that is detracting from Simon and Dean's glory, so I shall shut up.
Bus, you will have to find an endurance sport that doesn't involve your upper body or your lower body.
Easy fellas. Im probably just jealous i would be annihilated if i tried to hang my festering stenching outfits in some random room
I don't do run doubles so I don't have the issue with that but I do take a spare to do a lunch run, I don't cycle home in the one I ran in. I find I don't ever smell anyway, only when I put a bit of weight on did I find the need to always remember deodorant.
I meant a word for Scott before so thanks for the reminder Ric, not much one can say that we haven't said before. Puts my constant niggles in perspective.
Dachs- yes totally get you, I really tried to be more expansive but I'm typing on my iPhone so I could upload the photos. Every other word I spell wrong so can't be arsed to type on the bloody thing.
Thanks for all the congrats, might actually be catching Dean tonight for a beer. He's back home tomorrow night. Last word for Scotty though..chin up mate, you'll get there eventually. It's not fair sometimes, I've been so lucky over the last 17 years since I started running properly.
Over 3 months no running though is tough.
I am laughing at the reports and enjoying reading! Can't wait for the 5km
Work has been great and learning / trying all new gear and shoes and stuff has been awesome! Loads of new info!!
Ahem, Dachs' and Bus' filth encrusted kit aside for one minute, like others I hope you get a decent break sometime soon Scott!
That does sound an unpleasant mix of things front and back!
cheers chaps. My reports are full of detail as I will read back at a latter stage in a yr or 2. I'm annoyed my flights are tomorrow night so am missing the 5ks. I know a lot of people in these and would be a great watch. all the best Simon
Regarding the drying of kit, I sweat buckets for even the easiest efforts - so it's written off after one use! I shall have to find somewhere to hang kit at my new workplace!
Scott, so sorry to hear that mate
First training session tonight since April - 7 x 3mins with 2mins recovery. This was tough going, as I'd forgotten what it was like to push myself and suffer. First 6 averaged ~6:20/mi, but I pushed on the last which came out at 5:30/mi - hit a HR of 205, the highest for quite some time!
Tough running, but good to get back to it!
Always hard to come back to a session Matt - I'm dreading mine planned for Thursday!
Dachs - lol! Even if I could find that exercise, my degenerative 4/5 disc would rule that out though ;-)
All the best Scott - you really do get the shitty end of the stick....
We had Power Hour tonight, it's a chain gang so you ride in a small group taking turn on the front around an 18 mile course. There were a few strong riders out and we set the second fastest ever time. It's pretty good fun, especially when the attacks come in the closing stages.
Think vaguely running related talk like kit habits should be embargoed till after Simon's 5000 (and FULL report☺)!
Despite the above a word of sympathy for Scott; such talent but never gets a fair run at showing it.
No running for me till hamstring improves. More treatment booked. Managed to sell on Yateley number for tomorrow. You doing that one Dachs to complete your series win?
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Possible though, Oli is the same having super high HR (200+) and being accurate with testing
And scary stuff from Reg saying others are strong cyclists when we read how quick you go!!
Nope, this was measured by the strap - and right at the end of the last rep when I was eyeballs-out and couldn't possibly do more!
I like the idea of getting a round of tests done when I'm fitter (and a bit more flush), but I'm not 100% sure on the benefit for someone like me.
Strangely enough, the legs are feeling okay today!
No, we put time and effort into writing this garb
That was a clear outlier for me though, so it depends if it's normal for you.
Felt a little knackered and a little borderline coldy, so thought i'd reduce my midweek 10 to an 8. Conned myself and did 9 in the end. Every so slightly sub 7 by about 3seconds over the 9miles.
Rewatched the mile footage from youtube, and googled the landscape, pretty impossible to judge the steepness.
Results last year were one legend did just over 8mins, a guy who had a 4.35 mile that year, another around 8.40ish, and then a big drop off to 9.40s, followed by about 6-8 people over 20seconds.
It looks to have 2 "plateau" points of around 75metres, and the last 200metres is flat, so that'll be nice by then.
A Datchet chap i don't know will also be there, our lot get around! Will be useful to have some sort of contact there.
But either way, one for the "experience" and befitting a landmark like 200 races
Speak for yourself ;-)