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Had a read back but too many things to mention.
Superb Ironman from Reg and Marathon from Matt.
Congratulations to Scott! All the best - hope it's the start of good things to come for you!
Running wise for me - just under 2 weeks after the marathon, I ran a 3k race in 10:05. A bit off the PB of 9:52 but in that marathon recovery phase and off no speedwork, I was happy enough. Ran a Parkrun on Saturday (8 days later) in 18:09 and took first place at Ellon Parkrun (for my first 1st at Parkrun and second time I've finished 1st in a "race"). Again, relatively pleased with that as it's an SB at 5k but I was really hoping to go sub 18 (with my PB on a much faster course being 17:27).
Worst part was I slipped during the parkrun and put my back out. I was in agony on Sunday but it's eased off now. Physio last night and I've got a lot of tightness in my QL muscle in my back and my left hip flexor. A lot stemming from sitting on my arse all day. Got some stretches to do and I'm now confident it will be fine. Heading out for a relaxed 3 miler at lunchtime to see how it's all feeling.
Or possibly..'Oh look at me!! look at me! 'I'm not actually that good at running and not got enough moral fibre to train harder to get faster..so I'll peel off and do something that I can be the bestest at!!
Bit harsh perhaps
Dachs - still a good xc though all things considered, setting a high bar at the moment to be honest. Deano - same..you'll get there soon. CC82, good bit of speed post marathon then (my mate always used to be the same too..). SG - Mental session again!! hardcore on the track.
All sounds pretty smooth for a post-marathon period CC.
PMJ, to be fair I think the bloke is running official marathons rather than just a bunch of training runs with friends, and it is a pretty swift average, but I still struggle to see the attraction of the whole thing. We've got a bloke in our club who's done 900. Official ones. Madness.
Dean, I sympathise with your XC woes. It seems to find you out if you aren't right.
More track tempos then SG? Time for a track 10,000?
TVXCers, the Reading fixture has been finalised, and after being run out of our normal course at Crowthorne, the new course will be a park local to me, which is where I have done my XC training for a few years. I've always said, including on here, that it would make a good XC course, and now we will find out. Not sure if it was picked on my recommendation, although I did put it forward to them to consider. Just done some light fartlek round there and it's firm at the minute, although be warned that, if there's been any real rain at all, much of the course will turn into a bog very quickly. I have returned from training there in the past with entirely brown legs.
Impressive 28 solo tempo laps of the track SG; mental strength needed for that little lot is far more than for doing a parkrun then a 10 mile race the next day!
Good parkrun 'win' CC; shorter distance should improve further once you're over the marathon
Back then of course they were at least on the road, or round a longer loop...
Dachs, Reading seem to struggle to hold the same venue don't they? Had a course i can't remember, the posh school, and maybe somewhere else before Crowthorne? Now, just some random park? Lap job?
I ask this as i've done about 1 event in 3 years, and can't pretend i fancy a string of em this time either...
hang on....900 marathons? And official ones? Are there even 50 a year? So 18 years of one every week? Madness.
CC - glad it wasn't serious and sounds like you are coming back from the marathon fine.
SG - cracking tempo again!
Went to the sports injury specialist fella today. Same guy who diagnosed and got my degenerative disc under control about ten years back. He did a pretty wide range of diagnostic exercises on my, the weirdest of whihc involved me standing in front of him with my shorts peeled down whilst he prodded me in the groin and pubic bone and asked me to cough!
He suspects the problem is either a bony protusion on the hip, causing impingement or an occult hernia (as far as I can gather this is a small abnormality in the abdomen letting fatty deposits pop through in a bulge and pressing on the tendons). I have an X-ray and ultrasound in a couple of weeks to try and confirm. I'd rather it was the hip thing, as that can be eased by traction and exercise, whereas the hernia would require an op. I suspect the latter though,a s it hurts when I sneeze....
All that poking and prodding made for an uncomfortable 7.5M xc after. The knee was uncomfortable again as well, despite no pain whatsoever on Saturday's LSR, but it did ease after a few miles.
According to Po10, I've ran a grand total of 60 official races (which includes Parkruns - 12 of them, I think).
That made me chuckle, sounds like the mythical test that worried us for a year at school!
Must feel a little creepy, just alone with some guy head near your crotch poking you around.
The ultrasound one was quite awkward, where some doc hangs behind you almost spooning you, while digging a scanner into your ribs having glooped you up with some sort of mush.
Had that test twice. Once because the proper people didn't trust the Cressex lot.
That was one long year of tests thinking back... 4-5 ECGs, normal and 48hours, 2 of the above ones, blood pressure a few times, a rib X ray, a stress test on the treadmill, blood test, 2 MRIs.
At one stage the specialist suggested some invasive device sitting on top of the heart..to "Monitor" things.
Wowzers.
ps, glad there's some very specific reasoning for your woes though. You need that before it can heal, so all good progress.
I wouldn't worry or pre cursor the hernia thing though. I had tight muscles in the lower stomach once that a sneeze would reverb through. Just stretching alone finally saw that off. At one stage i was drinking some gloop that while not true laxatives, was a little along those lines, to try and flush this tightness out.
We;ve really had a lot of bits and pieces over the years of this thread!
Probably something your average tory MP pays good money for.......
It's not some random park, SG, it is a park which is very well suited to a XC race. More like a common. It'll give the TVXCers a taste of proper XC (where you do generally run laps in parks) before they start demolishing the post-race buffet
Re 900 marathons, yes there are plenty, particularly if you go abroad which he does with great regularity. There are also at least a couple of events where you can do 4 in 4 days. But yeah, he's been doing it for a long time. He's number 2 on the 100 Marathon Club list. We've got at least four others in the club who have over 100, and another who's on 99.
I doubt if I'll reach double figures.
There are records for Slowest Marathon and wine drinking marathons. Reckon I could make double figures if I have not done so already.
Who are we talking about? I checked their website and my clubmate is listed as having the second highest total.
I know we've had this debate before, but a 32min 10k versus 900 marathons has only 1 winner for me.
And it aint the former, even though we're fairly time fascist on this page.
Just imagining running 900 slow as you like training runs of that length sounds an epic undertaking to me! You'd have to have some core strength so it didn't ruck you up. Well, for at least as much time as the next one was due, which would be soon!
Laps in parks. Doesn't sound thrilling. Sounds more the domain of you skinny running snakes at the front.
Us plodders want a bit more scenery and ting while we're doddling round.
Probably.
(mutes the group chat, hoping he can avoid any talk of future TVXC turnups)
As it happens, personally I'd (if I could go back in time!) take a sub 32 min 10k over X 100 marathons, but it is all down to perspective and the viewpoint of the observer.
Scott - hope all is well with the Mrs and the little boy!
CC, good to see you out with some good miles in post-mara and back twinge. Reg, great work on the Jagers, oh and the awards!
SG, strong tempo again - you should really make the most of this fitness!
Some easy runs and a long run to finish last week just over 40miles, not too shabby post-race.
Track session this evening was 2 x 800m (300m), 3 x 600m (200m), 2 x 400m (100m) - it was supposed to be 4 x 400m, but I canned the last two, on account of losing ground on the others and starting to feel a little creaky. No point in digging a ditch and overdoing it!
Just to confuse Reg even further with how my training times fit in with race times - reps came out as 2:41/2:41/2:01/2:00/2:00/1:21/1:19. So essentially 1:20 lapping throughout the whole 4.2km session.
Little wonder I canned it, as that's 16:40 5km pace right there - I think even a blind man could see that doesn't fit in with my race times
Dare I say it, I'm starting to feel stronger, and it just goes to show with that sort of consistency!
Marathons are a slog of a distance whatever the pace. A 10k isn't.
And why is a sub32 champions league when elites range from 26-30 ish?
But of course a sub 32 or fast race is more impressive athletic wise.
But almost1000 marathons is impressive on a commitment level. Its not a parkrun that can be dribbled round every week with zero physical effort.
Bus where's the contradiction?
Not finishing shows the peril of being influenced by others a bit though. Race in races not in training. Promising generally though
Interesting to do all distances at same pace. Was that the goal? Otherwise youd expect 400s to be quicker unless you were lashing yourself on the 800s.
Always good when the distance goes down isnt it.
Dean, maybe but depends on your audience. Most on this thread are predisposed to the quality as that is what drives them. I don't agree that most people can run 800 marathons , no matter how slowly!
I still think 14 is plenty for a long run. I couldn't take a 26.2 every week...for 18 years
In a year, a sub 32 10k runner is probably clearing what 4000 miles? An 80 mile a week runner would get past 4000. Obviously, everyone is different, but I'd have thought runners in the sub 32 region would be generally running pretty big weeks. I bet your marathoner that runs a marathon every week isn't running 80 mile weeks. 40 mile weeks or maybe at a push 50s?
What's the bigger commitment?
Sub 32 is well better!
Seriously though - all these hundreds of marathons stuff - whats the point? It's just ego polishing.
Nice photo Pete - presume Torry won and Cornish? from HW up there too by the looks.
5 x 1200 last night, no slope..wo-hoo! 3.49,3.48,3.49,3.50,3.43. Grass not too bad, bit slippy in places. Felt good this morning on the long commute. Even though it's Wednesday - usually wandering idiot pedestrian day