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Also he's turned out before? Xc i think?
The irony i think is that national relay opportunities are probably harder for him to hassle his team up for
Hopefully dachs you're 100% asap and you can decide rather than it being decided for you
Just because you feel better, it doesn't mean the illness has completely gone. All it means is that it's effects have receded enough to stop hurting you all the time.
A short race is one thing. A marathon will take you into places you don't want to go when getting over illness.
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Stevie G said: London is very different. If you are fast then it is a fast course but Kona just seems slow compared to what it could be. Kipchoge set the third fastest time there in 2016 (2:03:05) and it is still the 5th fastest ever behind 3 at Berlin and a tailwind Boston. For the women, The world record is still Paula at London but that probably reflects the athlete more than the course.
Dachs, I'd go for the vest.
Session tomorrow is 4 or 5 x 3mins (i'll do 5) at 5.26 pace off 3mins. I'll do this on the track this time (Wycombe park last time)
Being on a track, at my pace aim, 1.21 lap, would people do say 900metres, or would you just do a km? 900metres would probably be very close to 3mins, whereas km is a good 20secs beyond.
For other sessions I've done stuff like 300s and 150s rather than complete the "half lap", so does 900metres sound sensible? Or just invite me rucking up which of the tonneload of markings is the actual 100m up?
On the road yes without question, but on a track it's probably best to work to distances for a comparison?
In the same way I did 27 laps on Tuesday, rather than leave it at say 26 laps and 375metres for the exact 40:00
It's the type of amateur pedantry I'm good at
I think i'll do the 900m then, and take 400m, 400m, and 100m splits (just to make it awks for Johnas to analyse
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(ps Aley, this certainly isn't the time to try those 3min kms you mentioned
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Aiming for 1.21 lap.
Pretty much all to plan or slightly quicker. Just the one errant 1.22 slipping in after a 1.20, but it's not always that easy to hit a precise to the second lap pace. Averaged out fine.
1.18-1.20-20
1.20-1.22-19
1.20-1.19-20
1.20,1.20-19
1.20,1.20-19
A good session, as with the generous recoveries you think it'll be easier than it is, but having done the 40mins of 1.29 on Tuesday, it just reminds the legs to keep turning over a good chunk quicker.
The way I see it, you'll feel more affinity for your club BUT after the relays, when you've all gone home, you'll have just done a short relay leg in a team that were also ran's in an event 99.999999% of people have never heard of.
Dean - yes I did
Nice, controlled session SG.
but basically Dachs needs to balance the risk of running a bit meh but with the honour of representing in an england vest in the chester marathon against the risk of never making the national Relays again. which would burn a bigger pain? if it wasnt for the england vest would you even consider running a marathon?
Dachs - marathon if it might be the only chance of an England vest. But seeing as you have already represented, I would go for the relays.
Obviously the bonus of seeing me and Dean there too
(although I could be first reserve at the moment..)
The England 10k thing is a bit annoying. Was planning Cardiff away in the footie, turns out it's a day before Chichester. And Telford is a day after the masters xc at Oxford. Why aren't there more weekends in the year...
Like Gosport is the day after wycombe are at sunderland for eg.
And man utd liverpool is same weekend of wokingham.
The latter is a big quandary
8M very slow and easy run at lunch, with a very rare monitoring of heart rate rather than pace to make sure I wasn't going to make this lergy worse.
Wokingham back on then presumably SG?
Best case scenario is Man Utd v Liverpool improbably moved the Monday!
Any Saturday or Sunday scenario, even the latter at 4pm just aint happening.
Cheeky Johnas has jumped a surprise into the schedule. This week was presented as a 2 session week, a sort of easier week.
He's surprised me by allowing a park run this week
Stipulation - no watch
Any recommendations, or trip suggestions? Joining?
Not allowed to take anyone i'd be battling with similar pace though...as that serves as a pacing tool!
This league should be so simple.
8 events, so put 2 a month in Nov, Dec, Jan and Feb.
If people are concerned that going too late into Feb interferes with spring road races, or there's a backlog late in the year and no spare dates, take one and put it in the Dec or Jan that has 5 Sundays that year.
For years the Windsor race was a great start to the series. The venue, the tradition with Remembrance day, and the easiest course making it a good way to ease in for both newbies and oldies.
Recently they for some reason shoehorned an event into early October - way before the rest of the series. Very strange.
Even stranger this year, they've ludicrously put 3 events in October.
Simple result is a lot of runners can't or won't make the early ones.
I'll do some later on, and did 5 last year, but 8 is quite an ask I think.
21st October - TVT
28th October - Reading
11th November - Datchet
25th November -Sandhurst
2nd December - Handy Cross
20th January - Tadley
3rd February - Bracknell
Seems like a perfectly reasonable spread to me, apart from the TVT/Reading ones being back-to-back.
As for starting with Datchet, if you weren't used to that being first then you'd never consider it a problem. You could argue the favourable October weather makes for an easy introduction too. There'll be restricted by venue availability too, it's probably pretty difficult to organise eight races neatly.
Two in 8 weekends in prime xc months doesn't sound anywhere near sensible or well spread at all when you have two examples of 3 in 4 weeks