Moraghan Training - Stevie G

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  • YnnecYnnec ✭✭✭
    edited June 19
    Gud skills on all fronts, SG.

    Were you making notes during the event or was it all from memory? You're Mr Eidetic* if it was!

    *Not to be confused with Mr Boombastic
  • Stevie  GStevie G ✭✭✭
     :)  I had to look at the splits afterwards, but i do live every detail!  That's for certain. I must admit I had to do 4-5 little lines of edit afterwards too, as I'd missed out some key* details. (* in my head!)

    Will give it until the end of the week, then start looking to see what July races will flow in well.
  • Enjoyed your running camp then SG ;) Had the notebook out again then to get all that detail in..

    I've got to do 4.7 miles in under 27.02 on Saturday to get the v40 leg record off my training partner on Saturday. Greensand ridge relay. 5.45's...didn't realise it was that fast. Shit!

    Did 6 x 1k Regents Pk yesterday, the old 500m down and 500m back up the Broadwalk slope with 90 secs. I think I have got the distance correct now - as they were 3.18, down to 3.10. Timed the last rep as 3.02 from where I used to stop the watch.  

  • Reg WandReg Wand ✭✭✭
    question is are you on 250 races now or 255?
  • Stevie  GStevie G ✭✭✭
     :D 

    6 legs within a race so 250.

    The hardest way to rack up ONE race though, compared to just racing a mile!!

    Put it in SC - and treat yourself to a 2liner if you do it ;)
  • PhilipMJonesPhilipMJones ✭✭✭
    Track today. Nothing unexpected as I am still feeling the blood donation from 6 days ago.

    For locals, saw Steve Roberts down the track, topless. 

    https://www.thepowerof10.info/athletes/profile.aspx?athleteid=79349

    He turns 55 soon and is aiming at a Welsh vest for 10k. Maybe if your name is Roberts you should be looking to your Welsh ancestors.
  • StevieWhStevieWh ✭✭✭
    Excellent reps SC, solid target to aim for on Saturday!

    SG come and join me at the Notts 5000m track special on Saturday 28th July! I'll be doing the 17.30 paced race I think.

    Not much to report, just plenty of easy running plus some 45s reps last night. Rest today before 10000m on the track tomorrow
  • The BusThe Bus ✭✭✭
    Maybe that's the way forward Philip :smile:
    To be fair, his most recent parkrun time is looking pretty tasty, especially for a V55!

    Work got in the way today and forced a rest day - much as predicted by Wool :smiley:

    I was thinking of racing the Misbourne 10k at the weekend. Classic off-road, school related, local cock-and-biscuit job. Pre entry was £14, but unfortunately online entries had stopped by last night. EOD is £20! I don't mind paying that for some race, especially if road closures etc are needed, but £20 to run round some woods that I run round on my way to work seems a bit steep!
  • JooliganJooligan ✭✭✭
    The report didn't disappoint SG :D Decent running from yourself & the team too.

  • muddyfunstermuddyfunster ✭✭✭
    Blimey Stevie, that's pretty amazing consistency over 30 miles ran over rough terrain. Sounds like great fun - a group from our club are doing the northern one this weekend. How's the recovery going from it all ?
  • Stevie  GStevie G ✭✭✭
    Ta chaps. Your guys will have a blast muddy. Key is definitely not to smash leg one!

    Had two complete days off with a lie in until midday on the monday!

    Couple of 4mile recovery runs yesterday- tough! Came out 7.35ish averages.
    Feel hungry and tired on wake up still so won't lift either pace or distance today and not a thought of speed work til next week!

    I know some of our other teams went for the giggles rather than to compete but I'm still surprised to see them turn out at both a club "guess your time" thing tue and a 5k race last night!
    Especially on the latter a young guy who ended his last lap at endure in tears in apparent crippling muscular pain!!

  • Matthew HeadMatthew Head ✭✭✭
    edited June 20
    Really enjoyed the report SG - glad you enjoyed the experience of it! Question is, would you do it again? I actually like the thought of running an event like this solo (we have one down here called Hope 24, which was the same weekend) - just a case to see what you can get done.

    All the best for the track 10000m tonight SW.

    Nicely done on your races SC, and kudos to Reg and Pete!

    Oh, PMJ, as suggested by others - it's just that the GAP is plotted on a separate, offset, vertical axis. Completely agree that it would make sense for them to be on the same and show crossover points.


    Just when everything was going so well in terms of consistency for my running, get struck down by a bad cold. To be honest, I felt I was teetering on the edge since coming back from NZ. Amassed a grand total of 15mi last week, and none so far this week - with the 5mi race on Saturday! At least I can't say I'm not rested :D
  • Cheers MH, hope you feel better soon.

    SW - yes the Notts 5,000 is the same night as the MK 5,000. I had a little convo with them on twitter and they said they will try not to clash with MK next year! I fancy it as I lived in Nottm for 2 years in the late 90's and would be great to catch up with some mates too.

    SG - I think a couple of HHH have done a tough mudder once, think that's as far as it's gone. We'll leave endure to Runners clubs etc etc..(JOKING ;))

  • Stevie  GStevie G ✭✭✭
    MH - I think it's definitely one to leave a while - to forget what it takes out of you!
    Good luck on a quick recovery and smashing that race.

    SC - you can't compare the Tough Mudder and Obstacle nonsense :)
    This at least is a pure running event, where you're aiming to go decently, and compete. Yes there's fun runners etc, but track and elite races (the likes none of us actually are involved in) aside, every race has those.

    I was interested how this event compared in feeling afterwards compared to a marathon, and two of our guys reckoned this was harder. Thought that was interesting.
  • PhilipMJonesPhilipMJones ✭✭✭
    The Bus said:
    I was thinking of racing the Misbourne 10k at the weekend. Classic off-road, school related, local cock-and-biscuit job. Pre entry was £14, but unfortunately online entries had stopped by last night. EOD is £20! I don't mind paying that for some race, especially if road closures etc are needed, but £20 to run round some woods that I run round on my way to work seems a bit steep!
    odd coincidence, the guy Wool was talking about has entered: small world!
  • PeteMPeteM ✭✭✭
    edited June 20
    Wow what a brilliant effort at Endure SG (and still, as ever, the report was even better :)). Usually I am the first to knock these sort of mass "fun runs", but its quite clear both DD and Bracknell 1st teams took the running seriously and the times and number of laps you both did were fantastic. On a personal level you have to be extremely proud of knocking out 30 miles at an average about 6'40's which augurs well for your much delayed marathon debut ;)

    Onto normal stuff and Forest 5 miler for me last night put on by Bracknell Forest Runners and attracting a filed of over 500 (massively boosted by their own club runners it has to be said). As a club we run in Bracknell Forest so often I had never bothered with this race (same reason I never do Windsor Half) but as everyone always tells me how good it is and its now Po10 it seemed churlish not to give it a go. 

    Turned up at the start to find our club's 2 best runners there and Kevern (Bracknell's best fresh from his Endure victory!) so knew there would be good pace at the front. Felt very sluggish myself though and feeling the effect of all these midweek races had little confidence.

    We set off and it immediately becomes clear this is going to be a slog. Conditions underfoot are very soggy and slippery (I wore road shoes, probably the wrong choice as it is 100% off road!). A noticeable hill too in the 1st k which came in at 4'06 but the 2nd k was fast though and a 3'40 got me back on track but still losing the odd place. So it carried on as the race twisted round some narrow tracks and the k's were only just under 4, then a really steep hill at about 5k almost brought me to a walk and that was a 4'20. Knew this was going to be a "just do your best and get it over" job by now and didn't even have much at all for the fast downhill finish but squeezed sub 32 with a 31'59 for 16th.

    Was a bit lucky with the vets prizes as they did v45 and v55 not v40 and v50, which meant I got £20 Sports Shoes voucher for an age cat win despite being well beaten by a v50 (same one I avoid at Dinton by doing the 5k whilst he does the 10k!). Not so lucky for him as despite being nearly 55 he got lumped in with the 45 age group and won nothing, my club colleague Phill Young with a mid 28 taking that one easily!. Another club colleague Twomey (who some of the locals will know from TVXC) was 2nd in a low 28 behind only the mighty Kevern who won comfortably, despite it being only 3 days since his heroics at Endure.           
  • Simon Coombes 2Simon Coombes 2 ✭✭✭
    edited June 20

    SG - If it's harder than a marathon - then definitely another reason not to do it ;)

    I've done some relays before, where folk do the event on the Saturday, then get pissed in the clubhouse and camp in the field overnight. I'd prefer that sort of thing. Sod running overnight !

    Pete - Good run and nice prizes too, nice to see. See Padams on the Sub3 thread won a half at the weekend with 6,000 entrants and (up to now) has no prize. Ridiculous.

  • StevieWhStevieWh ✭✭✭

    excellent racing and congrats on the prize Pete!

    SC - Yes I noticed the two clashed which is a shame as there aren't many events like that. Looking forward to it. Out of interest do you wear spikes for 5k on the track or your road flats? If so which spikes?

    Forgot to say thanks to Scott for the shoe recommendations, I'll check those models out! On have just released a new cushioned shoe as well which i'll take a look at as well

  • Stevie  GStevie G ✭✭✭
    Pete - another good turnout, and more prizes hoovered up!

    Do you reckon it's a full 5miles?  I saw some strava readings under, but like my relay, in woodlands and turns, it could well underreport....
    But low 28s is a pretty darn good effort from the boy Twom if it is. As I thought he was in and around me, but a legit 5mile 28.10 or so would surely be well down the 27s on a flat road course.

    SC - an interesting relay has to be that Green Belt one.
    More along what you describe. Each runner does a leg on the sat and sun, and you have a team large up in the middle.

    An animal to organise though. 11-12 runners per team, 100+ mile course, trying to get the logistics right to get runners to and from locations.

    The only one that I've seen that looks harder work is that Norfolk relay - which seems to combine the worst things of every other event - ie night legs, super long distance, across some tough terrain at times! Phew!

    Joe - did I see that you organise Clapham for this event, or was that another event?
  • JooliganJooligan ✭✭✭
    SG You are correct that Joe organises Clapham for Greenbelt relay.
    We have the Cotswold Way Relay next Saturday. Team of 10 running 105M from Chipping Camden to Bath. I organise the teams for FoDAC - 3 this year. There's also Welsh Castles: runs from N-S Wales over 2 days - very competitive & a one day S Wales version: Rack Raid.
    There's a new event just starting in August too: Wyedean Relay with shorter legs.
  • PeteMPeteM ✭✭✭
    SG my garmin was 8k which as we know is 45m short, but it often measures a bit short off road as you suggest. The race has been run for so many years I'm pretty sure it will be spot on 5 miles. Twomey ran a great race; no idea where he pulled that 28'1x from but he beat by about 25 secs our top guy Phill Young, who did 34'3x at Reading 10k recently finishing just behind Reg. I think Phill is very consistent and has a 74'xx at Reading Half in March, so if he does 28'3x it shows quite a hard course. 
  • Stevie  GStevie G ✭✭✭
    Twomers must just be in great form then - or be an XC specialist. Either or really.

    Jools - that Welsh castle one sounds a really important one. I think that's the one that'd be great to do.

    Trotted another 4 out just then - still really depleted making a mid 7s run feel an underfuelled job.
    Need to get on the grub and keep sleep wagon
  • RicFRicF ✭✭✭
    Stevie G said:
    Pete - another good turnout, and more prizes hoovered up!

    Do you reckon it's a full 5miles?  I saw some strava readings under, but like my relay, in woodlands and turns, it could well underreport....
    But low 28s is a pretty darn good effort from the boy Twom if it is. As I thought he was in and around me, but a legit 5mile 28.10 or so would surely be well down the 27s on a flat road course.

    SC - an interesting relay has to be that Green Belt one.
    More along what you describe. Each runner does a leg on the sat and sun, and you have a team large up in the middle.

    An animal to organise though. 11-12 runners per team, 100+ mile course, trying to get the logistics right to get runners to and from locations.

    The only one that I've seen that looks harder work is that Norfolk relay - which seems to combine the worst things of every other event - ie night legs, super long distance, across some tough terrain at times! Phew!

    Joe - did I see that you organise Clapham for this event, or was that another event?
    I've done the Green Belt Relay once (13.5 miles in 77:30 on Sat and 61:10 for 10.5 miles on Sunday) and the Norfolk thing three times.

    The last turn out involved pulling an inner thigh muscle at eleven miles. That added to the chaos which surrounded my change over on the sea front, I'm surprised I ran what I did.

    https://connect.garmin.com/modern/activity/375793143

    I'll be doing it again this year. 20 miles starting at 3:00 am is really my department. 

    Btw. Congrats on all all achievements. Also I've seen nothing lately that I would deem remotely risky or questionable, even by my cautious standards.
  • Stevie  GStevie G ✭✭✭
    edited June 20
    Ricko....ricko welcome back son
      <3<3  B)
  • alehousealehouse ✭✭✭
    Yes, good to see you Ric!

    How are the legs, SG? Decided on what's next yet? Not too late to plan for that autumn marathon! 
    Progress is rarely a straight line. There are always bumps in the road, but you can make the choice to keep looking ahead.
  • Stevie  GStevie G ✭✭✭
    Slowly getting there Aley - in hindsight, probs could have had 3 days total rest, but you live and learn.

    Mon & Tue - OFF
    Wed & Thur  2x4m
    Today so far 1x 4.5m, slightly quicker...

    Marathon - no chance!
    I want to romp a few mile to 5ks out when the legs allow it, which certainly won't be for a week or so!
  • muddyfunstermuddyfunster ✭✭✭
    Stevie, I had two days off after my 10k ! Give yourself a break, from my marathon experience this is a huge window of risk of injury.
  • Stevie  GStevie G ✭✭✭
    Haha - fair play Muds!
    But yes - will be cautious, but 2x 7.05 or so miles to end it today is a lot more promising than the last 2 days - but will do.

    Won't exceed more than 35-40 miles utterly maximum this week, most likely less.
  • muddyfunstermuddyfunster ✭✭✭
    Far too much !!!

    This is the P&D marathon recovery schedule:


  • Stevie  GStevie G ✭✭✭
    Yeah, I meant to dig the book out for a look see :)

    I suppose it's a pretty conservative recovery plan, and also I haven't done a marathon - just the distance. So it shouldn't be the same approach required.

    I guess it depends on the individual. Jill and others were racing 2 weeks after a marathon for instance - to me that seems too close.

    Will probs have saturday off - and see what sort of "Long" run is doable on the sunday, but absolute absolute max of 10 - and most likely less.

    I noticed Kevern of Bracknell did a 10 the day after the relay! He called it a slow jog, at 6.44 pace :D

    While our 2nd fastest guy from our team did a 10mile work on Wed i think, at mid 8s, and regretted it heavily...
    I think i'm getting better at judging what's right, and 4milers have deffo been enough right now.

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