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SG - good call, and your legs will thank you tomorrow.
Jools - are you trying to turn your legs to mush???
20M on the bike late afternoon. Lots of people about. Good to see so many newbies and families on bikes owning the roads - hope some of this carries on when when all this is done (though just a few less out and about might be nice
It's going to be interesting to see how the warmth affects the LSR tomorrow....
No reason so 15 at 6.56. Could be done slower but when it comes out like that why slow it? You'll soon know in your other runs if you're pushing etc etc
Warmed up near the end. Starting at 1030 or so would have been tasty.
Also pushed the distance to make 50M for the week and the climbing to make 6000ft for the week - 15.7M and 2000ft. Nothing to Jools standard, but a big week for me off singles
May be the last one as well. Listening to the news it seems all the feckwits having bbqs, crowding onto beaches and into parks somehow means the rest of us potentially won't be allowed out alone to exercise. Madness and totally counter productive if it happens - might be the point at which I stop obeying the rules and switch off Strava.
Hopefully just a threat as it's pretty hard to police. Id hope they'd consider say an ireland (is it?) reduced radius type thing instead? Still a bastad but much more workable.
Fckn annoys me, as i could easily do an isolated run on top of the walk and pose no risk, but i just uded my token once, and yet theres wankers using their token to meet their mates in the park, have a bbq or flock to the prom.......I'll be pissed off if we get locked in just when its warm enough to run in some warmth after all the fckn gales, wind and rain, this winter was probably the most ive got consistently rained on when running.
There is a big problem with the one-size-fits-all London centric approach though. What is sensible in dense urban areas may not be sensible elsewhere. For example, in towns the Ireland model would be highly counterproductive SG. In built up areas it just makes things worse by concentrating everyone into small areas.
One solution might be to only allow exercise in the morning - not many are going to want drunken parties on the beach at 8am (or maybe they will!)
I agree SG that if they go to far though it may actually cause even more problems as if you are going to rebel, you may as well do it in a big way TR might actually go for that walk and a run
I reckon Sweden have got it right, but time will tell though!
Anyone seen the Czechs figures...they have about 60 deaths total. But seem to have been in proper no exercise at all lockdown for a month.
In "hindsight" would some sort of mass quarantine on those have arriving in the Uk work?
Probs not as they probably could only have done it on people showing symptoms or failing a test (not that we have enough still by now)
Next weekend will tough. Easter bank hol weekend. You expect they'll have to shut more places or have patrols out.
Despite the very high profile cases in the media, which are (fortunately), outliers statistically it is still a relatively mild disease for anyone under 60 or without underlying health issues.
If there was a campaign for healthy individuals to be deliberately infected to help reach the percentage necessary, I'd probably volunteer (assuming not enough people in their 20s came forward that is
There seems to be a presumption that getting this virus means you're then immune. Is that actually a certainty? Pretty sure they don't know for certain yet.
TR - spent some time on a forum debating that one. Looks pretty clear cut to me - unforgivable and sack worthy.
It's like all of this stuff - one person doing something - probs ok - loads doing it, massive problem.
But some "expert" giving out instructions, breaking the rules?! Truly unbelievable
Do as I say, not as I do
They should have sacked that CMO and fined her heavily to make an example of her one week out from a sunny easter.
I'm finding it hard to get much running in with cycling typically being the chosen form of exercise 4 days out of each 7. That leaves 3 for running and 1 of those is parkrun replacement/tempo so not long distance, which means even with say an 12k and a 15k I only just get to 30k a week. Yesterday was back to Ascot Racecourse for a longer tempo (3 laps, 7.5k) which I did in just under 29. Felt good to be in the (old) VF's and get some pace going after sluggish longer runs last week. The cycling tends to be 16-25k with my daughter followed by the same alone on the road bike. Saves me thinking of too many routes!
Not sure what to make of the flouting of the rules; easy for us runners and cyclists to decry people sitting outside for 30 mins in a park; but what if they have young kids and no garden and have been cooped up all week? Not so easy for those to run and cycle, especially if single parents. There are no easy answers and I think whilst there is some totally idiotic behaviour (Kyle Walker, Jack Grealish, Scottish CMO and her holiday home etc.) many are in incredibly tough situations. Anyway we have to accept whatever tightening of rules happens and I agree with SG in thinking if its a 2k radius or whatever that's not too bad. The main thing is to get something that works to control the spread of this dreadful virus.
I read a forum earlier, and people seem to be totally ignoring what Grealish and Walker were "allegedly" conducting themselves in, and all the heat was on the curfew break! The activities of both would normally get them into deep tabloid coverage alone!
That 2km I believe is what Ireland did? And while Bus is right that it wouldn't work as well some places as others, they have to apply a one rule fits all approach, as they're doing with all the other rules.
I think one of the experts said something about maybe relaxing restrictions in areas that have less cases? That sounds like it'd be a world of pain to both work out, and police! For starters you'd have to have reliable testing, of current and past sufferers.
Imagine if you knew everyone in one area had no restrictions, and you are still locked down? This lock down is only just working in the main because we all know it's everyone. And even then, on every forum, or amongst every group of people, we'll all know someone who insists "but flu kills xxxx anyway" and suggest it's all overkill.
I'm hoping/trusting that the government health advisors are taking into account the possible long term health impacts of the current policy with an economic downturn, mental health issues including suicide, domestic violence, cancellation of planned operations, postponement of time critical medical treatment etc etc etc.
But then there's the positive benefits of better air quality (bearing in mind ca. 20,000 UK deaths pa from this alone) increased physical activity and reduced road deaths, and all potentially with legacies much longer term than the lockdown to throw into the mix...
Definitely not an easy one weigh up or govern though!
But definitely a real tough gig to sort out to say the least.
Probably better than lumping it into autumn which could again be binned.
Plus it's an Easter race. Other races might have their usual slot but a Friday easter race is a bit more unique isn't it.
We're lucky enough that we can walk to a beach (~2mi or so there) with the dog and so can claim that it's a reasonable place to go (the dog loves a swim!)
Good long'uns everyone, and tidy tempo there Pete. Ticked over with some easy runs the last few days, as we've been doing some groundwork in the garden, getting ready to reseed the lawn as the dog had ruined it over the winter... Safe to say that it hasn't made running any easier!
Funny you say about road accidents Bus, there's been a few serious ones about here since lockdown - requiring air ambulance etc. I've also noticed a number of those that are driving around are driving more carelessly due to the quieter roads. But that's also the Cornish for you...
SG - even Trump accidentally stumbles into saying something sensible every now and again
No end in sight but let's hope it moves the right direction at least!
Gloucestershirelive included this falsehood when reporting the police response over the weekend: “As well as day-trippers, officers also found cyclists miles away from home in the countryside – exercise is supposed to be near home and for limited periods of no more than half-an-hour for runs or cycles and up to an hour for a walk.” This is based on Gove’s personal opinion expressed when answering a reporter’s question at a daily briefing rather than a considered official position & has no legal basis.
2 friends in Brighton posted these comments about the crowds this this w/e:
“Walking along the seafront with the dog today, I saw a photographer for the Argus and red tops on the beach taking photos from angles that made it look like it was busy and that people were bunched together when it wasn’t, the people that were walking and exercising were All doing social distancing, its Fear porn and hatred and the media and government are totally part of it, when I asked him why he was doing that, he just walked away smiling, with a police escort, they were near by looking after him . . .”
&
“1. I’ve been down the beach (Hove, not Brighton, and not the last couple of weekends) but what I saw was lots of people walking safe distances apart, but from the right camera angle, it can be made to look as though everyone is on top of one another, and
2. the press makes it out as though it’s all tourists, but surprise surprise! quite a lot of us actually live here, and if you need to get out for a short while, the beach is the most open area to head to...
I’m not saying there aren’t some eejits out there, but the press do make it out to be far worse than it is!”
We could well be next to be scapegoated for the failings of this government to adequately prepare/react swiftly enough.
The Scottish CMO has rightly gone but remember our PM’s example? On 3rd March he said: “I was at a hospital with a few coronavirus patients and I shook hands with everybody” https://news.sky.com/video/coronavirus-i-shook-hands-with-everybody-11948548 He is currently in hospital with CoViD-19 after 11 days! Or Matt Hancock the Health Secretary returning to work just 7 days after testing positive yet reports from China suggested the virus may persist in the body for up to 2 weeks after symptoms have cleared up! https://www.livescience.com/coronavirus-spread-after-recovery.html This is the man who’s advice we are meant to be following, who clearly failed to exercise prudent social distancing & who was threatening to remove our liberties on Saturday morning!
Nice running folks. Good week that Bus & you got some cycling in too. Tasty tempo Pete. Still banging out a Sunday LFR then SG🤣
Another hilly 10M for me yesterday with some segment Fartlek: 2K@6%, 1K@5% & 350m@10%. Bagged 2nd, 5th & 3rd 😎 Not too shabby off another 70+ mile week of hill bashing.
Nice ten too....
Bang a couple of <enter> spaces in there Jools, old son
Good to see you taking pleasure in some segz hunting.
I lost one the other week. Some clown in a park in Slough took my "ferocious" 6.25 miling 0.8mile off me
Took about 30secs too.
The park is a slightly undulating job, so not as piss as that looks, but i'd obviously be able to take it back. But I think my days of the seg hunts are done for a long while, as I'd get carried away and have to rinse all of Slough!
Week 2 of furlough. Watered some plants, and got a 10miler in, and suddenly it's almost 4pm!
7.08 job. As probs to be expected didn't feel the sprightliest the day after a 15, and in suddenly warm weather, starting at 10.30ish.
One of those days that "looks" warm, and you know it probably is pretty warm, but the slight wind tells you it's fine.
Original plan was to have about 7miles on the clock and then get up what must be about a 250 ft climb over just less than a mile, but arrived there at about 7.6miles so thought nahhh, for both reasons of not wanting to exceed 10, and plainly not fancying it that late and warm in!
10 tomorrow I'll be slightly more "Up" for and fresher, and just have to decide if it's just one of these "steady" zone ones, or maybe boot a mile or 2 at the classic MP on top.
This Corona-Virus business just has me worried for all and sundry be it their health and finances. Not so bothered about myself. But taking no risks with contact with others.
I avoid others anyway. No change there.
Anyway, one good thing appears to have happened since my return. It's that Bus has now put a shirt on.
Mr running? Yes of course. That! And other aspects of training.
Here's mine starting Feb 27th. C=Cycling, R=Running, all numbers are in miles:
R9,R10,C24,C43,R12,C44,R10,C48,C50,R10,C30,C53,R18,C31,C56,R12,C13,C37,R20,C57,C40,R21,C15,C63,R22,C40,C65,C14,R13,C42,C67,R14, C55,C20,R15,C75,C23,R20,C34,C21,C65,R20-Today
The sequence started since I ditched all alcohol, refined sugar and assorted junk calories. Results of a blood test that revealed a compromised Liver, high Cholesterol and a type of anaemia.
The GP mentioned EPO
Another test revealed nothing wrong at all.
* I doubt it.
🙂
Unsurprisingly I'm finding my weekday 10s more enjoyable when they have license for faster stuff.
Today's finished with 6m steady, the large zone ranging from quicker than easy to slower than zone slower than Hmp.
Had a nice burn..almost literally in midday sun...starting 6.38 with a top end 6.20 to finish.
Could have got it all quicker of course but intentionally kept in this zone for now..plenty of time to ramp back up over the next months
My youngest isnt going to have a very rock and roll 19th bday today!
10m inc 10x3min this morning, as my weekly session, kind of enjoy it and another week has elapsed by the time it comes round again.
Certainly does break the week up doesn't it TR, and happy bday to your son - lucky it's not the 18th!
I'll probably develop this section on my Tue runs to get back to the Dorney Lake runs I was doing a couple of months ago averaging 6.15ish, and then even the infamous adding HM into the party
Then play around with the Friday runs which will be xx min on, xx min off, to keep the higher pace stuff ticking over, but with jogs over reps for now. Maybe throwing some hills in somewhere.
It feels quite fresh and interesting right now. I think that's because it's an outlet from the lockin, but also it's a very rare opportunity to have a proper base period without any races teasing you in, plus the roads are all open and inviting with so few cars about!
Ive read articles re reduced traibing to protect your immunity, needing a bit of hard work to boost fitness and so boost immunity, and that its a good time to build base or get the miles in.
Re base, as you say it doesnt just mean easy running either, its a block of training that builds fitness, and now is ideal as theres no race possibilities.
Ive had a June race cancel this week, i have 2 left in July now.