Moraghan Training - Stevie G

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  • PeteMPeteM ✭✭✭
    Took a break from this forum for a few weeks as I felt the topics were veering away from anything I know much about (e.g.segments, LSR's!). Now its back to the traumas of Bus and talk of races seems an opportune time to return ;).

    That collection of bites is something else Bus and you're braver than I would be making so little fuss of it; Like Wool I had just one hornet bite not so long ago and that was bad enough and had me whingeing for many hours. Will cycle with my top firmly done up I think now. 

    Having abandoned my Mike Trees' 10k programme a few weeks back as it was too difficult, I moved onto (not) parkruns as my weekly 'fast' runs. These have been pretty steady 19'12 (Rushmoor), 19'16 (Woodley) and finally just sub 19 at 18'57 (Upton Court). All of these are fast, flat courses in good conditions, so times ok, but nothing special. I was pleased to break back into the 18's at Upton though; been a long time since my last 18'xx on New Years' Day!

    Did last weeks (not) parkrun on the Wednesday instead of Saturday to prepare properly for the first (sort of) race since lock-down; the big Windle Valley 10K Handicap TT which was back on yesterday :) Usually there are about 20 turn up for this and rarely more than one other guy in the sub 40 mins bracket, but yesterday there was a bumper turnout of about 50 including quite a few faster folk.

    I set off with two other guys, all of us nominally targeting 40 mins (but probs all hoping for better!). The others set off at a scorching pace and I soon decided it was sensible to enhance my social distance from them ;). 1st 5k is mostly downhill then there are a series of hills; long and steady, short and horrid and another long drag like the first but a bit less steep. There are nice downhill sections between the climbs though. I got to halfway in about 18'50 which seemed about right given the course set up, but the other two were around 18'15 pace so hoped they might come back a bit. Not to be though and we all kept roughly the same distance apart through the 2nd half and I finished, not unexpectedly, with some k's over 4 mins and a time of 39'08. Only about 20 seconds slower than my last effort on this course in Jan, so reasonably happy with that. The other two guys did 38'37 and 38'42 so not too far off them. We had one guy do 35'2x. He is now aged 41 but has improved no end over the last two years especially in recent times from being my sort of level to being nearly 4 mins quicker. Would love to know his secret :)

    First time I have done anything with the club since the last one of these events in Jan, so nice to catch up with people and feel part of things and in a race of sorts again (even though the effort level required felt extremely hard!).
  • The BusThe Bus ✭✭✭
    edited July 2020
    It did Wool! What have you done to your knee btw?

    Good work on both the sub 19 and sub 40 (by a long way!) Pete. I'm hoping to re-join both of those clubs by the end of the year  :)

    Not sure my family would agree about me not making a fuss about the stings though  :disappointed:

    Day off work today. What a waste of time! I'm totally bored and can't decide whether or not to go for a ride in the rain or not! 
  • Stevie  GStevie G ✭✭✭✭
    Pete, no excuse for disappearing. I'm sure my scattering jabbering around 73 different subjects a day would have allowed you an in!

    And we always welcome positive contributions anyway.
  • Stevie  GStevie G ✭✭✭✭
    Wool don't feel too sorry for Bournemouth.
    They get 42m in parachute payments are selling Ake for 35m and no doubt will have to shift 100k a week types like Wilson.

    Wycombe have to compete with that at probably 100times less of a budget!
  • PeteMPeteM ✭✭✭
    SG does 73 different segs constitute 73 different subjects then ;) 
  • Stevie  GStevie G ✭✭✭✭
    Footy. Segs. Races. Club committees and politics. Offroad runs and routes. Talk about local nutters and legends. Furlough.

    There's a whole spectrum of jabber subjects.


    Any lurkers wanna jump in on any?
  • Stevie  GStevie G ✭✭✭✭
    Ok, running then - an unappetising dreary wet Monday, and need to pay out on the huge work fantasy footy league I run, meant I didn't get out til way after 12.

    Told myself i'd do somewhere in the 8-10, but license to just do 8.
    Did a few random loops near the end and managed the 10 in the end, same pace as yesterday oddly.

    Will get the steady tempo in tomorrow unless the weather tells me it'll be insanely wet and windy :)
  • WoolWool ✭✭✭
    SG - if Windle can do a club handicap with 50 entrants....

    Hoping my knee is OK Bus, had some issues with the head over the last few weeks but I'm keeping at it, just.

    Lakes next week, 1st time off work since April. I'm so bored of the never-ending routine of working from home and seemingly never going anywhere. Should have had a break now as I'm really limping to the line. The only sadness I have is that the cricket season is just ramping back up and we're dragging him off for a week of traipsing around with wet feet! 
  • Stevie  GStevie G ✭✭✭✭
    Yep, they staggered it though Wool. And it wasn't the 50 that was a problem for our event, as I contacted EA directly and they approved it.

    It was the committee all poo-pooing it, and then the actual originator deciding it wouldn't be the same "experience" because people would have to keep their distance.
    Making it instead of a vaguely crazy event with pals, a miserable slog round a field for hours.

    I would say at least you get to work, but in fairness it's probably no more fun that way in the slightest!!


    ps Eventually i'll nudge the club along to get moving on starting up training again.
    It is basically relying on 1 person writing a plan, and taking some names down for training!!

    In fact I'll do it now.
  • Stevie  GStevie G ✭✭✭✭
    Simon - you about?
  • TRTR ✭✭✭
    Pete - good going there, more good progress from where you were with a knackered calf. 

    Wool - ive done NF 1/2 (and NF10 on similar route) its a lovely place to run, but i dont think the 1/2 was accurate, so wouldn't do the full, doesnt make p of 10 either. Bring yr elastic to Goodwood, im aiming for another sub3, although vlm look like they are trying their best to put on a race of some sort.

    Usual monday 15m.
  • WoolWool ✭✭✭
    No marathon for me this cycle round TR, my heart's just not in it. Could mean that getting going again for the Spring will be tough, need to keep that in mind come Dec / Jan.

    SG - thanks, keep hounding the DDs. We could have easily gone off in some sort of staggered start for the 1st lap of that event. After 3 laps there barely would have been anyone left anyway! 

    And you're right, working like this brings it's own challenge, not working would bring another. I had a short period of gardening leave across the summer of 2012 and it was really only the reality of having a 2 year old to look after that got me out of bed! I'd like to think that if I was in your situation I'd be day-tripping all over the place but maybe the reality would have been that I'd be laying in bed until 10am looking at social media! Who knows?

    Stretched the sub-tempo-faster-than-MP-run-thingy to 7 miles this morning. Bit breezy but nice to do 7 @ 6:25 in the middle of the run. I don't know if there's a lot of training benefit in these runs but I do like them. The pace isn't that hard to hit but doing 6-7 miles just keeps you honest enough. I might try and stretch it out a bit further to avoid the reality of working on pace which is probably what I should be doing. Hmm.
  • Stevie  GStevie G ✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2020
    Nice one Wool. I think these runs are probably the most key run. 
    I've always found it easier to bash reps out as you get a nice break. Tempos are the real deal as they're the closest to race day.

    Similar to you i expanded my tempo to the fuller 6mile.

    6.10 average. Felt pretty good. Bang on top end and 4secs average quicker than last week's 5. Despite today being windier.
    Best one I've done in years i think as it's neither on a track or a route with 60-70 feet descent.

    6.09 and 6.06 set me off nicely and even a 6.14 5th mile was seen off with a nice 6.07 to finish. 3 loops of the road bit of the Marlow 5k which is about 1.65mile a loop and then basically the end of the race course down the river. You're just waiting for that last bit to come!

    It's a pace that like you say isn't "that" fast but it builds up and feels worked out by the end for sure.

    I always think..wow a race is another xxx seconds quicker per mile after. But we all know about race day magic.

    I looked at a few old places i went as a kid in Norfolk but i think it's one thing touring about when it's just gardening leave and quite another when it's a massive pandemic recovery unfortunately.

    When even going to a shop is a hassle I'm not sure it's a time for hotels and suchlike.

    However im expecting August off still so who knows!!
  • Reg WandReg Wand ✭✭✭
    I've had another little niggle that's had me off running for a week but I am just back to laugh at Bus! Shame you didn't accidentally shave your torso before sharing the soft porn picture  :D I gave myself a haircut last week and was very pleased with my efforts, there's not too much that can go wrong with it to be honest but doing the back with a mirror and trying to get my brain to go in the opposite direction was I imagine like trying to park a trailer for the first time. Not that I've tried that.

    Nice work on the TTs Bus and Pete, I assume these Parkruns are onthe actual courses but that it's not a prerequisite? 

    Most people would just say they smelt diesel/petrol but I enjoyed the way Phil has slowly revealed the nature of the offending fluid through a succession of words I didn't understand  :).

    Nice LR TR and I don't think there's a marathon for anyone this cycle Wool!

    I compensated for the lack of running last week with some extra cycling. 216 miles included the local 10 mile TT but I was late to the start so just rode the course for fun and a bit slower than the week before. Managed 5km running this morning and leg seemed ok, having felt some pain where the ITB inserts last week. Seems more tendon like pain than muscle so thought a proper week off was in order.

    The flagging is childish  ;) .
  • SCoombes2SCoombes2 ✭✭✭
    Yeah I’m about SG! Um 8 x 1k Saturday which was horrible and windy. Around the local lake. Sunday run was bog standard, very wet 9 yesterday morning. 

    Bus chronicles go on. You should have your own show. Unreal ;)

    football wise. Oh well at least Watford went too!
  • Stevie  GStevie G ✭✭✭✭
    Yes, we know you're about now SC!! Causing some panic stations from people with the shenanigans we won't mention on here :D 
  • JooliganJooligan ✭✭✭
    Back after a week away & seems normal on here. 
    SG
    - accumulating segment CRs all over his local patch & thus discovering the joys of hills/trails
    Bus - more misadventures. Incredibly unlucky with the hornet. Decent 5K TT though
    Reg - injured for running but cycling astoundingly well
    Pete - excellent (not)Parkrun times & 10K TT on a lumpy course too.
    I've been climbing more mountains so with 75M & over 21000 feet Mon-Fri last week I wasn't expecting much from my weekly (not)parkrun. I was back to the flat but exposed Barnstaple course however the wind was light for a change. Unfortunately the humidity was sky high but after a 5K wu including 6x100m strides I toed the start line. 1st K in 3:57.8 was OK but could I hang on? 2nd K in 3:56.7 - encouraging; 3rd K in 4:00.5 - worrying; 4th K in 4:01 - hang in there son; 5th K in 4:00.6 = 19:57 for the 5K. Back out in the afternoon for a 7M run with 6x 650m hill reps of 166ft each.
    Day off Sunday recovering from an evening's debauchery.
    Back to it yesterday with a repeat of Saturday's afternoon run only with 12.5 reps.
    Drove back home this morning via Blorenge for 3 trips up to the Trig the steep way & back down around the Northern tramway. 10M in 2 hrs but 3,375ft climbed. Just 3 days of this lunacy left
  • Stevie  GStevie G ✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2020
    Don't forget the proper sesh today Jools - that's more what we're about :)

    21,000 feet!! Wowzers. I finish with 600-900 feet on 1 run and think It's been hilly :)


    On another note..what do we think of this? :D:D


  • JooliganJooligan ✭✭✭
    edited July 2020
    Sorry SG that was a quality 6M tempo today.
    Am I commenting on the shoe or the personalisation. Or have adidas recognised your Legend status & brought out a shoe in your honour :p

    Ps: I only use the web version of Strava yet had an email informing me I was the Local Legend on a segment. Funny thing is I've run it twice in the last year: both last week :D 
  • Stevie  GStevie G ✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2020
    The personalisation :)
    Yeah, they got in touch with my people, and they're thrashing out a sponsorship  :p

    Only do it in that colour though, and whether that's worth £15 extra than sportsshoes are peddling them for, we all know the answer!
    Green has to be the next colour


  • TRTR ✭✭✭
    Tough when you look back and the Sheff utd no goal would have kept the cherries up, although there was a lot of football played after that.

    Fair play wool, im against the sands of time so need to tick another sub3 box this yr if possible.

    Not sure any running is a bad idea, that tempo sounds decent, theres a lot to be said for keeping the right side of the red line. You dont have to destroy yourself to stimulate gains.

    9m.
  • Stevie  GStevie G ✭✭✭✭
    Another 10 today - drove to Wooburn, then set about finally discovering this Lake at Spade Oak.

    Probably about a mile round it, a few gates to open etc. Not that scenic as such as you only get little glimmers every so often in little fishing bolt holes.

    But something different. Bits on the Thames path too. Did a job at 7.30 ish or so all in.

    Might have a trip to the Lookout one day, proper rich forestry round those parks. They used to do the TVXC Bracknell race round there, until the park got too greedy for wad.

    Carparks seem to be back open now, which was the thing putting me off before.
  • Stevie  GStevie G ✭✭✭✭
    Good news bad news...

    Nice work have their first test event next Fri - a 90min window for the start of a 5miler.
    Staggered 5min waves of 12.

    They'll then review other races to hold along the same lines.
    Might have a look at one if there's a suitable August jobby

    Bad news - Cabbage Patch 10 off in October. Inevitable, as per all the big races of course - London, GSR, Reading half probably.
  • SCoombes2SCoombes2 ✭✭✭

    Can't be arsed bothering this year tbh. Bad news that the Met league have cancelled all their xc this year, intercounties next year under threat (possibly funding too).

    Its like foreign holidays this year...look 2020 is just going to be a shit year, lets just see it out carrying on like we have done since March. Its shite, but we're not being bombed or anything are we. Could be worse. I think we are going to have to postpone our big Aussie trip until 2022..I just want the proper experience, not a half baked one.

    Footie - Bmth are making a claim against the VAR lot..worth a go to see if we can get any money out of them I suppose.

    SG - Just no for personalised trainers. Only elites thanks ;)

    Jools-  mental hills as usual..

    Luton yesterday - you may have seen the aftermath on Strava and facebook. 3 x 1k, 3 x 800 and 3 x 600. k's one lap of the pitches then up the dreaded slope to the pylon and back (into the wind). Times a bit average, 3.20's for the K's, 2.40's for the 800's and 1.58's for the 600's. Hard work.

  • PeteMPeteM ✭✭✭
    SG; Bracknell Forest is my neck of the woods; can easily run there from home. Happy to meet you if you fancy any company for your run, if/when you go there. I can also recommend a free parking spot just 2 mins jog from The Look Out.
  • Reg WandReg Wand ✭✭✭
    PeteM said:
    SG; Bracknell Forest is my neck of the woods; can easily run there from home. Happy to meet you if you fancy any company for your run, if/when you go there. I can also recommend a free parking spot just 2 mins jog from The Look Out.
    Nice one Pete, remove the interest from the ensuing SG post by making sure the parking goes smoothly and he doesn't get lost.

    Bournemouth suing would be absurd and impossible to rule on. Let's say they rule that the goal should have counted, who's to say Villa would not have been spurred on once a goal down to come back and score two. Maybe the jury would add two points to Villa's total  :D

    Managed a short run Tuesday and no real ill effects so hope to get another short one in today. Hour on the bike yesterday and hammered it up the nearest climb, two miles at 3% average with a short and fairly steep hill at the end. Took the KOM for the full 2 mile section but need to go back and have a go at the final hill on its own. 10 mile TT tonight. Do I bother with the weekly leg shaving :-)


  • WoolWool ✭✭✭
    Pete's on Strava!
  • PeteMPeteM ✭✭✭
    Have been for about 4 months now Wool; since lock-down started and I had to for that TVXC Virtual 5K. Still only got about 10 followers I think though; not that I'm bothered by that at all. 

    Reg; I still managed a wrong turn in Bracknell Forest just to keep SG familiar with what he is used to in his runs ;)
  • Stevie  GStevie G ✭✭✭✭
    Nice run with the big boy Pete. 10miles pretty much on the outskirts of the forest.
    Although checking the map, you can get a lot further and wider out!

    Different to some of my other runs there, where I've been in the middle of the foresty bits.
    The positive was that the footing was more your hard trail, rather than woody stuff, so we could get a decent conversational, but fair pace in the mid 7s over the 10.

    Apart from driving out, and 10mins later ending up back in front of the Lookout, all ood directionals wise ;)

    Pete bagged his first seg too! Monstered me by 4seconds the cheekster!
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