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    CC2 - Speedy Goth wrote (see)

    PMJ - my marathon WAVA isn't my best by some way, but my ranking certainly is. Check out the V35 marathon rankings for 2014. image

    I see that and it is a nice ranking: 10th V35 but actually 19th as there are 6 V40s, 2 V45 and a V50 ahead of you image. I am currently ranked #2 for 1 mile at V45 and 25th for all age groups. It doesn't mean I am good at the mile, just not many people race the mile.

    WAVA is not perfect and I can pick holes in it all day, and neither are rankings.

    I think TR is right, I like to race a lot (50+ races each year) and the marathon is a big investment for one number and when it goes right it is ecstasy, when it goes wrong it does so horribly, but there is also a lot of grey middle ground.

  • PMJ - I am a tad confused re your marathon dnf. I understand that you had the foot problem, but you were bang on pace at halfway when you stepped off, were you not? Not trying to rub salt into the wounds & forgive me if I missed something. What was it exactly that went wrong?

    Abbers - How did your race go? I may have missed your post.

  • Speedy - a top 10 is a top 10 as far as I'm concerned! What do you reckon has made the biggest contribution to your improvement over the last couple of years?

    On the Run Britain website, I'm ranked no.1 Male V45 in my postcode. Can I claim a podium spot for that? image 

    However I do quite like the fact that I was 1967th overall on Sunday and I was born in 1967.

     

  • May 10 - Marlborough Downs Challenge 20 miler - MsE
    May 11 - Fred Whitton Challenge - SJ - no crashes 
    May 18 - Richmond Park marathon - Marrows no target
    May 31 - Kent Roadrunner - Gul Darr 3:08
    May 31 - Stockholm Marathon - Lorenzo more evenly paced than London
    Jun 1 - Comrades - Poacher - Bike It sub 8:20 
    Jun 1 - Walled city marathon - Leslie H 
    Jun ? - Swim length of Ullswater - SJ - no drowning
    June 8 - RunJersey half marathon - GM sub 1:28 
    July - Thunder Run - Minni, MsE
    July 27 - Outlaw - SJ - 10:xx 
    October - Yorkshire marathon - Poacher, Minni TBC
    October 5 - Jersey marathon - GM sub 3:10.
    October 12 - Great Eastern Run - knight rider sub 1:25
    October 19 - Abingdon Marathon - MsE - to get to the start line injury-free

  • Lorenzo - as usual, no tune-up races for me. Final indicator will be 10M easy / 10M MP run in a couple of weeks time.
    Leslie - great run - what is your 10k PB?
    Minni - you've put me off going for a GFAimage
    PMJ - we all know what Mark Twain said about statisticsimage
    FINgers - hi, look forward to hearing your news.
    GM - not a bad 5k effort after the lunchtime warm-up.
    KR - nice course for a sub 85.
    4 recovery miles d&d.

  • Gul my 10k is 40.07 set last month.
  • Gerard Mooney wrote (see)

    PMJ - I am a tad confused re your marathon dnf. I understand that you had the foot problem, but you were bang on pace at halfway when you stepped off, were you not? Not trying to rub salt into the wounds & forgive me if I missed something. What was it exactly that went wrong?

    GM, maybe it should wait until next as the thing for the moment is to celebrate those who had good runs. Suffice to say I didn't run Monday and Tuesday and am tentative today as the foot is again throbbing like buggery so stopping was 100% the right decision. The whole debate about a bad day at the office versus never racing a marathon again can wait (oh shit, I have left the door open to running a marathon but not racing it).

  • Lorenzo, yes I have done one of those Battersea Park 10Ks.  I don't remember much about it.  It's low-key, flat and fast, multi-lap, and started at 8am. mostly club runners.  No organisational hitches.  They award very many plastic goblets.  I like sleeping too much to do another of those but do like the look of the shorter evening races they put on.  Anyhow - what's your plan? get some better times at shorter distances as springboard for your 2015 sub 3 campaign?

  • Excellent ranking Speedy.

    GM - purple paint has no real effect. Doesn't taste great but wear a sweat band to wipe mouth after drinking. Luckily not had to run in the rain in it yet.

    Legs getting a little less sore this morning but can't see me contemplating a run until the weekend at the earliest.
  • I'm contemplating my first run today- probably a 5 mile plod. My legs feel a lot better.

    Then I'm off to the Lakes this w/end and will do the Keswick parkrun (a new one). Suspect it will not be WAVA in the 80's image

    Then Keswick Half Marathon a week later if I don't have to travel to Russia on business...

  • I love that stat Lorenzo. I was born in 1967 too.

    I was 299th in Brighton out of over 8500, that's quite a high finish for me. A day later I'd been bumped to 300th. Only one place but it really annoyed me. image

    Had 10 days off running and did a 5 miler off road today. Felt like hard work running at 7.47 pace, yet I ran a marathon quicker than that! Weird, but I guess those marathons take it out of you?

    SB

  • PMJ - That's fair enough, hope you realise that I wasn't really trying to probe you but thought I had missed something. I can't seem to find any time these days to read back properly. Hope the foot problem clears soonest.

  • Hi all, I'm just de-lurking to say a huge well done to everyone who has raced marathons over the last two weekends. There's been some fantastic performances and race reports, which have been very motivating for me - though I had a disappointing VLM myself.

    I managed to go sub 3.15 last year with a 3.14.37, but decided to a bit braver this year and train for a sub-3 attempt as my half and 10K times indicate that this may be possible. Although sub-3 was never really on, I went through halfway in 1.32.22 so thought that something in the 3.05 to 3.10 range was possible. However, I continued to slow and by 16M knew that this and also any hope of a PB had gone as well. I had a very tough final 10M and crossed the finish line in 3.24.02. However I'm pleased that I toughed it out and I managed to finish as I was desperate to stop at 16M!

    I'm would be interested to know what plans everyone followed, particularly those who had breakthrough marathons, as I'm doing the Yorkshire marathon in October (though will probably be more realistic in my target time!)

    Thanks

    LB

  • I’ve really enjoyed reading about the fantastic performances and race reports in the VLM over the last few days.

    Huge congratulations to Martin, CC2, Lit, OO, Lorenzo, SandyB, marrows and everyone else who I may have missed.  Also good performances from Poacher, AR, Ant and TR if not quite your A goals. Sorry to read about your DNF’s PMJ and Minni. There’s always another day!image

    Can someone please add my races to the schedule? I always seem to mess up the spacing.image

    May 3 – 50k Causeway Crossing Ultra Marathon – Badbark – Finish

    May 5 – Belfast Marathon – Badbark – Sub 3:30

    May 25 – Newry Marathon – Badbark – Sub 3:30 after running 20+ miles the day before

    June 14 – 100k Portumna Forest Ultra Marathon – Finish

     

  • Lorenzo and SB, '67 was a fine year.

     

    And while you're adding Badbarks times could someone please add on mine as posting from my phone will definitely cock it up.

     

    Oct - Abo sub 2.55 - moof

     

    Hi LB70, we'll done for seeing it through and still a great time.

    I've followed the P&D advanced marathoning 55-70 programme a couple of times with good success. I'll roughly follow it for Abingdon this year with one or two tweaks. l may try to up the mileage slightly but won't be running all of the long runs at 20/10% of marathon pace as I found this a little too quick and intense. I'll most probably alternate a time on feet run (8 mm pace) with the p&d method.

  • Badbark, I've added yours and separated the months. I find it easier to read.

    May 3 – 50k Causeway Crossing Ultra Marathon – Badbark – Finish
    May 5 – Belfast Marathon – Badbark – Sub 3:30
    May 25 – Newry Marathon – Badbark – Sub 3:30 after running 20+ miles the day before
    May 10 - Marlborough Downs Challenge 20 miler - MsE
    May 11 - Fred Whitton Challenge - SJ - no crashes 
    May 18 - Richmond Park marathon - Marrows no target
    May 31 - Kent Roadrunner - Gul Darr 3:08
    May 31 - Stockholm Marathon - Lorenzo more evenly paced than London

    Jun 1 - Comrades - Poacher - Bike It sub 8:20 
    Jun 1 - Walled city marathon - Leslie H 
    Jun ? - Swim length of Ullswater - SJ - no drowning
    June 8 – Run Jersey half marathon - GM sub 1:28
    June 14 – 100k Portumna Forest Ultra Marathon – Finish

    July - Thunder Run - Minni, MsE
    July 27 - Outlaw - SJ - 10:xx 

    October - Yorkshire marathon - Poacher, Minni TBC
    October 5 - Jersey marathon - GM sub 3:10.

  • May 3 – 50k Causeway Crossing Ultra Marathon – Badbark – Finish
    May 5 – Belfast Marathon – Badbark – Sub 3:30
    May 25 – Newry Marathon – Badbark – Sub 3:30 after running 20+ miles the day before
    May 10 - Marlborough Downs Challenge 20 miler - MsE
    May 11 - Fred Whitton Challenge - SJ - no crashes 
    May 18 - Richmond Park marathon - Marrows no target
    May 31 - Kent Roadrunner - Gul Darr 3:08
    May 31 - Stockholm Marathon - Lorenzo more evenly paced than London

    Jun 1 - Comrades - Poacher - Bike It sub 8:20 
    Jun 1 - Walled city marathon - Leslie H 
    Jun ? - Swim length of Ullswater - SJ - no drowning
    June 8 – Run Jersey half marathon - GM sub 1:28
    June 14 – 100k Portumna Forest Ultra Marathon – Finish

    July - Thunder Run - Minni, MsE
    July 27 - Outlaw - SJ - 10:xx 

    September 28 - Lochness - Rich26 sub 3:10

    October - Yorkshire marathon - Poacher, Minni TBC
    October 5 - Jersey marathon - GM sub 3:10.

    away with work for 6 weeks in May/ June so gonna be difficult to do anything, not even a treadmill!!

     

  • May 3 – 50k Causeway Crossing Ultra Marathon – Badbark – Finish
    May 5 – Belfast Marathon – Badbark – Sub 3:30
    May 25 – Newry Marathon – Badbark – Sub 3:30 after 20+ miles the day before
    May 10 - Marlborough Downs Challenge 20 miler - MsE
    May 11 - Fred Whitton Challenge - SJ - no crashes 
    May 18 - Richmond Park marathon - Marrows no target
    May 31 - Kent Roadrunner - Gul Darr 3:08
    May 31 - Stockholm Marathon - Lorenzo more evenly paced than London

    Jun 1 - Comrades - Poacher TBA - Bike It sub 8:20 
    Jun 1 - Walled city marathon - Leslie H 
    Jun ? - Swim length of Ullswater - SJ - no drowning
    June 8 – Run Jersey half marathon - GM sub 1:28
    June 14 – 100k Portumna Forest Ultra Marathon – Finish


    July 20 - Northumberland Coastal Run - Minni? - OO - Poacher
    July 26 - Thunder Run - Minni, MsE
    July 27 - Outlaw - SJ - 10:xx 

    September 28 - Loch Ness - Rich26 sub 3:10

    October 5 - Jersey marathon - GM sub 3:10.
    October 12 - Yorkshire marathon - Poacher, Minni TBC
    October 19 - Abingdon - Moof sub 2.55 - Poacher

     

  • I still say Badbark is in danger of a podium finish in the ultras. Get ready to be lonely, at the sharp end of an ultra one can go literally hours without seeing another soul.

    Commiserations LB, but well toughed out. Never used a plan, for me the breakthrough was to bin the long runs and learn how to hurt really badly instead. 

    OO Keswick has to be a great place for a scenic PR

    PMJ - ouch - hope it's a speedy recovery 

     

  • Yes it's not fast Poacher but very scenic and I like hills image

     

  • LB70 - I've had bespoke plans for my last few marathons and managed to knock 15 minutes off my time although I had a DNF this time around.  I'm also doing Yorkshire but I'm planning to completely change things over the next 6 months and do a relatively short build up to the marathon.   I've also used P&D in the past and that served me well too.

    Is anyone running a marathon this weekend???

     

     

     

     

  • May 3 – 50k Causeway Crossing Ultra Marathon – Badbark – Finish
    May 5 – Belfast Marathon – Badbark – Sub 3:30
    May 25 – Newry Marathon – Badbark – Sub 3:30 after 20+ miles the day before
    May 10 - Marlborough Downs Challenge 20 miler - MsE
    May 11 - Fred Whitton Challenge - SJ - no crashes 
    May 18 - Richmond Park marathon - Marrows no target
    May 31 - Kent Roadrunner - Gul Darr 3:08
    May 31 - Stockholm Marathon - Lorenzo more evenly paced than London

    Jun 1 - Comrades - Poacher TBA - Bike It sub 8:20 
    Jun 1 - Walled city marathon - Leslie H 
    Jun ? - Swim length of Ullswater - SJ - no drowning
    June 8 – Run Jersey half marathon - GM sub 1:28
    June 14 – 100k Portumna Forest Ultra Marathon – Finish


    July 20 - Northumberland Coastal Run - Minni? - OO - Poacher
    July 20 - Dundee Adventure Marathon - Rich26 - sub 3:59:xx
    July 26 - Thunder Run - Minni, MsE
    July 27 - St Andrews Olympic triathlon - Rich26 - Finish middle 1/3. 
    July 27 - Outlaw - SJ - 10:xx 

    September 6 - Perthshire Highland Marathon - Rich26 - 3:45ish
    September 28 - Loch Ness - Rich26 sub 3:10

    October 5 - Jersey marathon - GM sub 3:10.
    October 12 - Yorkshire marathon - Poacher, Minni TBC
    October 19 - Abingdon - Moof sub 2.55 - Poacher

  • May 3 – 50k Causeway Crossing Ultra Marathon – Badbark – Finish
    May 5 – Belfast Marathon – Badbark – Sub 3:30
    May 25 – Newry Marathon – Badbark – Sub 3:30 after 20+ miles the day before
    May 10 - Marlborough Downs Challenge 20 miler - MsE
    May 11 - Fred Whitton Challenge - SJ - no crashes 
    May 18 - Richmond Park marathon - Marrows no target
    May 31 - Kent Roadrunner - Gul Darr 3:08
    May 31 - Stockholm Marathon - Lorenzo more evenly paced than London


    Jun 1 - Comrades - Poacher TBA - Bike It sub 8:20 
    Jun 1 - Walled city marathon - Leslie H 
    Jun ? - Swim length of Ullswater - SJ - no drowning
    June 8 – Run Jersey half marathon - GM sub 1:28
    June 14 – 100k Portumna Forest Ultra Marathon – Finish
    July 20 - Northumberland Coastal Run - Minni - OO - Poacher
    July 20 - Dundee Adventure Marathon - Rich26 - sub 3:59:xx
    July 26 - Thunder Run - Minni, MsE (team mates)
    July 27 - St Andrews Olympic triathlon - Rich26 - Finish middle 1/3. 
    July 27 - Outlaw - SJ - 10:xx 

    September 6 - Perthshire Highland Marathon - Rich26 - 3:45ish
    September 6 - half marathon (not sure which one yet) - Minni - sub 1:30
    September 28 - Loch Ness - Rich26 sub 3:10

    October 5 - Jersey marathon - GM sub 3:10.
    October 12 - Yorkshire marathon - Poacher, Minni TBC
    October 19 - Abingdon - Moof sub 2.55 - Poacher

  • May 3 – 50k Causeway Crossing Ultra Marathon – Badbark – Finish 
    May 5 – Belfast Marathon – Badbark – Sub 3:30 
    May 25 – Newry Marathon – Badbark – Sub 3:30 after 20+ miles the day before
    May 10 - Marlborough Downs Challenge 20 miler - MsE 
    May 11 - Fred Whitton Challenge - SJ - no crashes  
    May 18 - Richmond Park marathon - Marrows no target 
    May 31 - Kent Roadrunner - Gul Darr 3:08 
    May 31 - Stockholm Marathon - Lorenzo more evenly paced than London


    Jun 1 - Comrades - Poacher TBA - Bike It sub 8:20  
    Jun 1 - Walled city marathon - Leslie H  
    Jun ? - Swim length of Ullswater - SJ - no drowning 
    June 8 – Run Jersey half marathon - GM sub 1:28 
    June 14 – 100k Portumna Forest Ultra Marathon – Finish
    July 20 - Northumberland Coastal Run - Minni - OO - Poacher 
    July 20 - Dundee Adventure Marathon - Rich26 - sub 3:59:xx 
    July 26 - Thunder Run - Minni, MsE (team mates)
    July 27 - St Andrews Olympic triathlon - Rich26 - Finish middle 1/3.  
    July 27 - Outlaw - SJ - 10:xx 

    September 6 - Perthshire Highland Marathon - Rich26 - 3:45ish 
    September 6 - half marathon (not sure which one yet) - Minni - sub 1:30
    September 28 - Loch Ness - Rich26 sub 3:10

    October 5 - Jersey marathon - GM sub 3:10. 
    October 12 - Yorkshire marathon - Poacher, Minni TBC 
    October 12 - Great Eastern Run - knight rider sub 1:25
    October 19 - Abingdon - Moof sub 2.55 - Poacher

    Looks like my GER run got missed off on the reformatting?

    Badbark - You are a bit mental!

  • LB, I used a 20 week Hanson's plan. First time following a schedule and I have to say I 'enjoyed' the first 15 weeks until I came a cropper to injury. I didn't get to see the result. It needs a minimum of 6 days per week which is probably too much commitment for me. Next time (?) I will go back to do my own thing, but will use plenty of the sessions from Hanson's.

    Quite a contrast for me compared to last years VLM. The day after I was running on a treadmill in the Asics store. This year I'm hobbling about, and have two dogs extremely miffed with me as their walks have been severely reduced.  

     

  • May 3 – 50k Causeway Crossing Ultra Marathon – Badbark – Finish 
    May 5 – Belfast Marathon – Badbark – Sub 3:30 
    May 25 – Newry Marathon – Badbark – Sub 3:30 after 20+ miles the day before
    May 10 - Marlborough Downs Challenge 20 miler - MsE 
    May 11 - Fred Whitton Challenge - SJ - no crashes  
    May 18 - Richmond Park marathon - Marrows no target 
    May 31 - Kent Roadrunner - Gul Darr 3:08 
    May 31 - Stockholm Marathon - Lorenzo more evenly paced than London


    Jun 1 - Comrades - Poacher TBA - Bike It sub 8:20  
    Jun 1 - Walled city marathon - Leslie H  
    Jun ? - Swim length of Ullswater - SJ - no drowning 
    June 8 – Run Jersey half marathon - GM sub 1:28 
    June 14 – 100k Portumna Forest Ultra Marathon – Finish
    July 20 - Northumberland Coastal Run - Minni - OO - Poacher 
    July 20 - Dundee Adventure Marathon - Rich26 - sub 3:59:xx 
    July 26 - Thunder Run - Minni, MsE (team mates)
    July 27 - St Andrews Olympic triathlon - Rich26 - Finish middle 1/3.  
    July 27 - Outlaw - SJ - 10:xx 

    September 6 - Perthshire Highland Marathon - Rich26 - 3:45ish 
    September 6 - half marathon (not sure which one yet) - Minni - sub 1:30
    September 7 - Great North Run - CC2 - sub 1.24
    September 28 - Loch Ness - Rich26 sub 3:10

    October 5 - Jersey marathon - GM sub 3:10. 
    October 5 - Chester marathon - CC2 - TBC
    October 12 - Yorkshire marathon - Poacher, Minni TBC 
    October 12 - Great Eastern Run - knight rider sub 1:25
    October 19 - Abingdon - Moof sub 2.55 - Poacher

  • Minni, you can still enter the GNR without going through the ballot. I recently discovered they have places for 'fast paced club runners' that you can just email them for (wish I'd known earlier!) You only need a 10k of 45 mins or half of 1.35. Go to the elite entry page on the website and it's right at the bottom. 

  • Really Speedy? I always thought it was sub 1:28 or something. Off to check!
  • http://www.greatrun.org/events/Information.aspx?ctid=318&id=1

    Fast pace club entries

    Distance    Men    Women
    10km    40.00    45.00
    Half M    85.00    95.00

  • May 3 – 50k Causeway Crossing Ultra Marathon – Badbark – Finish 
    May 5 – Belfast Marathon – Badbark – Sub 3:30 
    May 25 – Newry Marathon – Badbark – Sub 3:30 after 20+ miles the day before
    May 10 - Marlborough Downs Challenge 20 miler - MsE 
    May 11 - Fred Whitton Challenge - SJ - no crashes  
    May 18 - Richmond Park marathon - Marrows no target 
    May 31 - Kent Roadrunner - Gul Darr 3:08 
    May 31 - Stockholm Marathon - Lorenzo more evenly paced than London


    Jun 1 - Comrades - Poacher TBA - Bike It sub 8:20  
    Jun 1 - Walled city marathon - Leslie H  
    Jun ? - Swim length of Ullswater - SJ - no drowning 
    June 8 – Run Jersey half marathon - GM sub 1:28 
    June 14 – 100k Portumna Forest Ultra Marathon – Finish
    July 20 - Northumberland Coastal Run - Minni - OO - Poacher 
    July 20 - Dundee Adventure Marathon - Rich26 - sub 3:59:xx 
    July 26 - Thunder Run - Minni, MsE (team mates)
    July 27 - St Andrews Olympic triathlon - Rich26 - Finish middle 1/3.  
    July 27 - Outlaw - SJ - 10:xx 

    September 6 - Perthshire Highland Marathon - Rich26 - 3:45ish 
    September 6 - half marathon (not sure which one yet) - Minni - sub 1:30
    September 7 - Great North Run - CC2 - sub 1.24
    September 28 - Loch Ness - Rich26 sub 3:10

    October 5 - Jersey marathon - GM sub 3:10. 
    October 5 - Chester marathon - CC2 - TBC
    October 12 - Yorkshire marathon - Poacher, Minni TBC 
    October 12 - Great Eastern Run - knight rider sub 1:25
    October 19 - Abingdon - Moof sub 2.55 - Poacher - BOTF 2:59:59 - MsE

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