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In bed drinking tea. Slightly hungover but not much. Should I go to park run or should I drift off back to zzzzzz.......
Hungover and sick, enough said
Don't be arsey Daren!
I don't for a second advocate giving up speedwork or tempo runs. Getting PBs like Daren's needs speedwork and tempo runs. I just think that in marathon training especially, most people do their LSRs to quickly and their faster stuff too slowly and end up running everything at the same pace.
Minni wrote (see)
Ho Ho HOompa wrote (see) 5 miles on TM for me last night and it was awful. 1st mile @ 8.00 min/ml, 2nd mile @ 7.00 min/ml then had to jog/walk the next mile as i had a strange tingling/ache right along the length of both feet coupled with aching left ITB??? Managed to get "back in the saddle" so to speak and did the last 2 miles @ 8.00 min/ml pace but it was far from easy.
Ho Ho HOompa wrote (see)
Of course it wasn't easy! You're trying to get back from injury and every time you run you're getting aches and pains. You have to SLOW down! That is too fast! Neither wonder you're getting pains. Honestly, slow right down and test everything out and only start to introduce a bit of speed when you're sure everything is ok. Even if it does take weeks.
What is it with men that they have to always go so fast?!!
DD and others, Sarah is a GP. (*whispers* perfect ! exactly what we need on this thread). So perhaps she can help out with the manflu that affects so many. Maybe she has a vaccination......
sarah osborne 4 wrote (see)
Hahaha, thanks minni, the cats out of the bag now....had better start reading up on sport injuries! Man flu.... well thats a special illness, despite the high prevalence, we just haven't got to the bottom of why it only incapacitates men making them bed ridden with no real signs of illness! I agree with minni HHH, I've only been running a couple of years but coming back from injury and running 7min/ml sounds a recipe for disaster! I don't do any speed training if I have any or have just recovered from any twinges. Like Simon says though it could be something as simple as tight shoes (fingers crossed), it's happened to be once when I had my laces far to tight. Seemed to be worse on inclines! Hope your next run is more successful
I consider myself officially told off!
I lose speed really quickly though if i don't do at least one tempo run per week, preferably an interval run as well.
Plan is for 12 miles SLOW tomorrow morning, so we'll see if i get "funny feet" again?
Also there is a definite place for MP work in long runs, but not in all long runs and not until January as we are currently in base training.
This morning's park run was 5km of mud and hills. More of a XC race really. I did 23:41 which sounds rubbish but actually isn't that bad for the course and conditions.
Are daren and spoons fighting? Its ages since we've had a fight on the thread!
Sarah - 7:50 is faster than MP for a sub 3:30 marathon. As has just been said you need to make sure you run your easy stuff easy and the fast stuff fast. Its all about balance. Your easy miles probably need to be closer to 9m/m. I know that will feel so much slower but honestly its worth it. Both myself and Brolish when through a period of having to slow down our longer runs and it was almost wrist slashing stuff but we would both now agree it is the right thing to do.
I wouldn't get too hung up on your marathon time right now. Wait and see how you feel come Feb/March. I am concentrating on the BM at the moment and my sessions are based around that, with marathon training probably starting in a couple of weeks time. I'll use my race times between January and March to see what kind of time is realistic for the marathon.
I'm opting out of the fell race tomorrow after doing 7 in the hills with this to run on:
will do 16 lsr instead.
Sarah - you'll still get a good time/PB at BM with this kind of running so long as you're doing some quality sessions too. Last year I went from 1:36 to 1:32 in one go after just a few months of running like this. Remind me again what your PB is?
shit, Min, that looks well scary!! My 10k course may look similar tomorrow. It"s compacted snow right now at -5 degrees but a warm font with rain is expected tomorrow morning and we all know what that means! They may cancel it tomorrow morning, who knows.
Dubai Dave wrote (see)
Just back from social pished and unable to speak anymore with sore throat But didn't didn't do dirty dancing!
disappointed in you, DD
Minni - What's the matter with you? I thought you northern lassies were tough??
The grey seals are all having their pups at the minute so we've been out for a walk this afternoon having a look. Very cute.
Off to running club Xmas party tonight and I may have a beer or three....