Training for a shorter Tri

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  • that is the one buttercup has I think! Easy to spot you in the water with yellow on your arms image

  • Day 3 of the Fink Half plan done, 15 minute bike/15 minute run brick session, though the bike was a bit over as I misjudged the route I took. Tomorrow is a rest day as we're off to Spain, so Friday will be an open water swim and a bike ride in 23 degree sunshine.

    Also got our entries in for the Bamburgh half this morning, so providing it doesn't get cancelled, it's all on now!

  • SteadyCJSteadyCJ ✭✭✭

    Mikasa, I hired a wetsuit for the season then bought it for £10, that way I had tried on a couple and swum in them and worked out which fitted the best.

    My hip has ached and clicked since the run/walk,  so the next session is back to power walking all the way. I cannot see myself being able to run/walk a HM without pain unless I can run for much much longer before doing a little walk.

  • Yup thats the one I have Mikasa! image

  • mikasamikasa ✭✭✭

    I just noticed this is my 7th week without running. image Or doing much else... 

  • mikasa - who have you seen about your hip?

    steady - nothing wrong with power walking, just don't overstride as that will cause problems

    couldn't sleep last night image don't know why

    my little boy has just done his 2000m swimming badge image

    I am swimming tonight and will hopefully do a little turbo/bike tomorrow (depends whether I just have my own kids or someone else's too - if it is just my own we willl probably have a bike ride tomorrow)

    then nothing till Sunday 

  • mikasamikasa ✭✭✭

    MC - have seen physio 3 times. Initial assessment + 2 treatments. It's generally getting better, i.e. I can walk without pain but if I have to stop suddenly, like yesterday when I started crossing the road but then had to pull back, I can still feel that quick sudden pain in a muscle. 

    This week I have to say, I've done my strengthening exercises and stretched but have been unmotivated to go to the gym to do x-trainer/bike. I think I just need to start doing stuff again (obviously not running yet) but I can't stop cycling just because my glutes are weaker and it's not the best exercise to recondition my muscles, can I?

    And because I can't run, I really need to get on the x-trainer. JFDI yeah?!image

    Do you think I should get second opinion?

     

  • might be worth seeing someone else if you can afford it - it took me a few different physios to find one that actuallly figured out what the problem was and how to correct it

    It is important to keep the other exercise up otherwise you lose muscle tone and it will take a lot longer. Cycling is good and does use your glutes so definitely do the cycling. Use the cross trainer so long as it doesn't aggravate your injury - I find them worse than running. If there is a friendly tri club that teach front crawl for beginners it would be worth joining them and getting some swimming in

  • mikasamikasa ✭✭✭

    That't the thing, the cost bit. Had a look at physio's closer to home and £55 quid assessment+treatment first time. And if it needs just time... I'm thinking, do some 'proper' training for a week, see how it feels, if no better, go for another physio. (Though that's exactly what I was supposed to do this week. image just kind of lost the mojo.)

  • mikasamikasa ✭✭✭

    MC - was yours a hip thing as well (obviously properly totally different thing) and how did they get to the problem?

  • my initial injury about 18 months ago (although I think it started really in Switzerland 2 years ago) was a knee problem. Spent loads on physios, had an mri, nhs physio (he was rubbish) ended up going to see another physio because I was just getting fed up with not being able to run for so long and pain going up and down stairs, she diagnosed a slight hyper extension, which makes total sense, and gave me loads of strengthening stuff for glutes, quads, hamstrings etc. Has worked wonders

    my hip -  now I think I have always had slightly dodgy hips, even as a child, but when I did the Loughborough half a few weeks ago it was very painful, and I wasn't even running the whole way - so went back to the physio, again caused by a specific weakness in my glutes, but I also don't have quite the mobility that I should have in my hips. Loads of strengthening stuff. Just hope it doesn't hurt too much on Sunday!!

    If you are going to see another physio try to get a recommendation for a good sports physio - the sports thing is really important because physios have different specialities and if you see one that doesn't understand about the nature of the sport that you want to do then they may tell you not to run etc (like the nhs physio did!)

  • mikasamikasa ✭✭✭

    The physio I got to see was: Musculoskelatal sports physiotherapist, Pilates Instructor and Triathlete and watersports enthusiast. I don't have any mobility issues with the hip, full range of motion etc. Ah, so frustrating. I've arranged to go for a little bike ride with bf after work. See what happens when I do something proper.

  • what did he/she say was wrong with it?

  • mikasamikasa ✭✭✭

    The initial problem was the strained hip flexor. Weak glutes, tight quads. After last visit she just thinks the muscles are still tight and need to do stretching/ strengthening. She said give it 6 weeks, if gets better don't come back, if it doesn't help then come back earlier. It is better, just not as much as I'd like. There is just something in there that doesn't want to play ball. Obviously, I don't know how long muscle injuries/tightness can last??

  • maybe you should go back to the same physio then? Have a few days of doing some regular exercise and see how it goes

  • mikasamikasa ✭✭✭

    Maybe I should. Especially as it's only been a week since the last appointment! I guess I just got bit despondent that it hadn't healed yet. Not very patient am I?

    And thanks MC. Feel like you'be been my private agony aunt. image

  • I feel a bit insensitive to post about my run with Mikasa having troubles, it was such a nice day to run, but I wasn't really feeling it.  I plodded along at a slow pace, but did my longest run since new year.

    On the way out of the changing rooms I bumped in to a guy I'd sat next to 14 years ago in my first real job in Aberdeen, he's stayed with the same company and I'm on my 4th different company...lol...neither of us ran at the time.

  • well done pete image

    off swimming soon

  • SteadyCJSteadyCJ ✭✭✭

    Mikasa, I understand the impatience in wanting to be better and able to exercise freely. Sometimes I worry that by carrying on that I am making things worse, but overall I have got some strength back into the hopelessly weak muscles.

    Today I walked, did not even bother trying to run, so power walk with little steps my usual 5k loop but garmin thinks I went a totally different route, stupid thing and I did not bother with the hrm strap either. I was 5 minutes slower than when I tried running and walking, will see how the aches and pains go.

    My cycling mojo has disappeared just when I have agreed to cycle both Saturday and Sunday.

  • Lol maybe it's hanging out with my swimming mojo Steady image 2.29hr ride around the countryside close to home - man there were some numpties on the back roads going fast image I figured the outside would be more interesting than on the turbo and it was - time in the saddle and all that image may have just wolfed down GF pizza image

  • mikasamikasa ✭✭✭
    Pete - don't worry,I'm happy for everyone else or sympathetic. Just annoyed that every time I'm getting back to it I get injured. Must be the weight...
  • Pippi LSPippi LS ✭✭✭

    mikasa, I sympathise, but you are being impatient if it's only a week and you were told give it 6 weeks! Slowly, gently!

    I tried a little run on the treadie, first since coming off my bike, but it hurt - very bruised and swollen hip still. However, I have had a little swim without ill effects (scared of bumping into someone though) and cycled today - that didn't hurt either, so it's the impact I need to avoid for a while longer.

    Cassette numbers, Pixie? I think I'm getting a bit techie knowing it's called a cassette!

  • Ok, seriously loads to catch up on. Big "like" for Cake's raced report. Will read the rest and post properly tomorrow. i have turboed image! Oo and will weigh in in the morning!

  • SteadyCJSteadyCJ ✭✭✭

    EP, I have a Specialized Dolce bottom of the range ladies bike with triple ring at the front and whatever was standard fit at the back. I use SPD cleats, nothing wrong with them, they at least make walking possible, those other cleats make walking impossible. I am now thinking that my next bike will not be a triple as I have experience in riding and it will mean less time spent changing gear, the man who did my bike fit reckoned that the modern ones with just 2 rings are just as good as a triple.

     

     

  • EP - no idea whether triple is best or not, but my recommendation is go to lesiurelakes bikes in Breaston (near Long Eaton and the M1) - that's where I got my bike from, they were good and gave me what I wanted at the price I could afford. It is a specialised dolce too so maybe I have the same bike as steady! They didn't have many women's bikes in stock but will order in without obligation, they set mine up for me, not a technical bike fit, but I haven't had to change a thing. They also did things like put the bottle holders on!

  • I have mountain biking spd pedals that i with cleats I can walk on and a triple ring image I have a scott contessa xxs (cause Im a midget).  Have been thinking of heading to TFN in Beeston and seeing if I can get a pair of tri shoes with spd cleats on them.  There's a good bike store in Loughborough who got my bike for me and set it up - nothing was too much trouble.

  • EP - second LL, they will listen and talk through things with you and NOT take advantage. The only thing they won't be able to help with is positioning your tri bars. My road bike is a Specialized Ruby but I started off with the Dolce (which is now my turbo bike). Most important thing as I'm sure you know by now is the fit.

    If you think you can or you think you can't you're probably right.
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