Why are the English men so bad at solo sports?

Goodbye Timmy, back to Oxfordshire for him, to count his money for the Ariel advert. Where are our world beaters Daley, Seb, Crammy, Linford and Ovett on the track. We wont win anything at football, our batsmen are crap (good young fast bowlers though). Are we ever again going to produce someone who will inspire like Redgrave or the afore mentioned athletes. Thank God for The England rugby team and Paula


  • And Becham

    He took that horrible woman of his to aggravate the Spanish.......

    How considerate................
  • Beckham Even....
  • Oh do behave.

    Henman was never going to win Wimbledon this year or any other.

    Don't think we need to beat ourselves up too much over the inevitable (annual) demise of Tiny Tim.

    Just wish he'd get knocked out earlier so people could concentrate on the tennis and not those muppets who inhabit "Henman Hill"


    My a*se!
  • correct

    put a chimp in a union jack and wed have chimpmania

    chimps hill
  • anyway tennis is an individual sport not a national team thing - so what if a brit wins - id rather see the best players rather than the boring brits
  • Triathlon anyone?

    Simon Lessing, Spencer Smith, Tim Don, Richard Jones ...

    and the women are pretty good too :o)
  • There's only one way to improve Britains sporting success; follow the American system of universities offering sports scholarships.
    They train most of there top sportsmen and women in this way. It works for them, so why not try it in the U.k?
  • I was chatting to a friend of mine tonight and was amazed and shocked to hear that a woman I was at school with won the Edinburgh marathon and came in 2nd british woman in London... and she gets zilch in sponsorship. Nothing. And no media coverage. What is wrong with our country.
  • It's only losers like the England cricketers and footballers that get all the the dosh. Not fair really is it?
  • A lot of the female triathletes are from Australia though aren't they? OK - it's great that they are competing for us, but we can't really claim them as a success of our system.

    On the subject of "like Redgrave", how about Matthew Pinsent? If Redgrave hadn't been around we'd be going apesh1t over him winning three successive gold medals, and yet because Redgrave has already done it he gets very little publicity, in spite of the fact that he's won a lot more stuff than most people (how many other British competitors have three gold medals?)
  • Okay - so it isn't a solo sport, but I do feel rather sorry for him!
  • Cricketers and footballers may get money, but you can't blame them. Runners wouldn't turn down money or anyone else in any other sport if they were offered it!

    Leanda Cave-Welsh triathlete?
    Jodie Swallow-?

  • dont worry the persil advert is supporting the search for britains next tennis 'star' which, according to the advert, is another load off your mind

    its true though, i have chewed my fingers to the bone worrying about whether any brand of washing powder will sponsor some tennis rackets
  • fairy suds?
  • Pammie*Pammie* ✭✭✭
    where do the suds go down the pipe where does the pipe go ...
  • Leanda Cave is from OZ originally (I think)

    As for Jodie Swallow - no comment I may get myself into trouble!!!

    Spencer Smith is THE MAN - I predict that he will win Hawaii this year.

  • JB would hate moi saying it, but Vive La Henman! (tee hee)
  • you can't blame them for henmania... the english have always favoured underdogs with oddly shaped heads
  • Jose.Jose. ✭✭✭
    what about darts?
  • or snooker?
  • remember patrick bozzart - he was tops at rubiks cube
  • Running Man - how do equate the statement that English batsmen are `crap' with the fact that Michael Vaughan topped the world rankings for most of last year?

    Our cricket team is the 2nd best test team in the world under the excellent leadership of Nasser Hussain.

    On football, in the last 5 world cups we have been semi finalists (lost on pens), not qualified (Graham Taylor!), last 16 (pens again) and quarter finalist (beaten by Brazil) - hardly a record of unparallelled failure.

    Also our Rugby Union team is currently best in the world.

    Our problem is we try and compete at a high level in many team and individual sports, thus diluting the raw talent that is there.

    Name me another country ranked in the top 10 in football, cricket and rugby, with some top athletes, golfers, snooker players and motor racing drivers.
  • Well said BR,

    However it can't help that we appear to have umpteen unco-ordinated national bodies that are supposed to be doing something about it all - UK Athletics, Sport England, UK Sport, Sports Council, local council sports committees, etc, etc. They all pay healthy sums to their various committees and the endless mgmt consultants brought in to give them fancy logos when what we really need is half of them merged together, given a decent remit & to get on with the job of making sure something is done about things like school sports grounds and so on.
  • If I might venture - Lawrence Dallaglio has a national body that is far from unco-ordinated.
  • does it really surprise us we're so crap when we have tony banks as sports minister - the guy who suggested people like franco zola should play for england " because they play in england "
  • DazDaz ✭✭✭
    There's one solo sport I'm very good at....
    Endurance Coach @ DazCarterFitness.com
    Elite Ironman, Ultra Trail Runner
  • fat buddhafat buddha ✭✭✭
    javelin chucking I believe?
  • DazDaz ✭✭✭
    thats right mate!
    Endurance Coach @ DazCarterFitness.com
    Elite Ironman, Ultra Trail Runner
  • fat buddhafat buddha ✭✭✭
    anyway I'm Welsh so shouldn't be here. we are the world champs of taking the pee out of the English.
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