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I agree about the night sections. Worry about that nearer the time. There's plenty of winter before the race where night running is essential (at least if, like me, you live in the middle of the country). Head torches are worth investigating rather than just popping down to a camping shop. Many are not bright enough - need at least 70 Lumens, but some of the really bright ones use up batteries very quickly - 2 hrs or less. Also some are heavier than others. Having now recovered from WHW, will be back to running gently this weekend. No big races till August so ease back in. Last long race of 2011 will be in October then I'm starting to think about how to reach peak milage in mid-winter (February) in Scotland in time for the TP100.
MR F the High peak 40 website could be better yes, i thought that as well, the race is about 19pound me thinks although i have slept since then.
Hillheader what would a Peak mileage week look like for you in february. i`m trying to get a few different perspectives on how Normal runners train for a 100miler.
cheers take care.
Hi all.
I'm doing the High Peaks 40 too, and thinking of entering this as my first 100 - if I'm brave enough.
I note Hillheader put that this is at the perfect time of year - is that due to temperature, as it strikes me that it may still be quite chilly with a long night?
Thanks Mr F.
very tempting.....Mrs R already thinks I'm crazy (have a 2013 MdS) place so she'll hopefully just see this as proof!
Mr R, Well done on 2013 MdS - talk about forward planning!
I have a real problem. Been told by Mrs HH that I shouldn't ever do the WHW again, never mind next year. Wondering, if she'll accept an "easier" race and not having to support me? How does one approach the subject? Its so hard to explain the lure of such events when all she sees is the long hours of training and the pain associated with completing such an event.
I like the idea of a March ultra except for the difficulty in training through the winter. I would expect to peak at 100 mpw, peaking 3 weeks prior. Assuming a 40 mile run at the weekend, that still leaves 60 miles of running through the week and with Scottish daylight hours and being in the country that means 60 miles of night running, with a good chance of snow and ice.
Out running for first time last night. Felt reasonable though knees a little niggly. Out on the hills tonight and see how that feels. I feel for those of you down south with 30 deg C. We had a high yesterday of 12 !
"Its so hard to explain the lure of such events " - know exactly what you mean - I think you either get it or you don't.
My wife doesn't understand the "why" bit either, but i think has probably jus accepted that it works for me. My ploy is usually to put potential races to her at the most opportune moments - for example, last night I presented the High Peaks 40 and Brecon 45 to her just prior to the Take That concert at Villa Park where I was on very husbandly chauffeur duty - surprise, surprise, no issues at all. As far as the MdS goes - she did not want me to enter, but ultimately when entries went live and I was in an internet free zone, she entered me herself as she knew how much I wanted to do it - gotta love her - and she's gorgeous
Sounds like you got it sorted Rich
Luckily my hubby now accepts that I am going to enter what he thinks of as silly events and as long as I dont injure myself he is happy.
I thought he took this one quite well, but after 10 in 10 this year I dont think I can really phase him.
Training wise I'm not going to get near 100m per week. I usually go into these things completely under prepared, and this probably won't be much different! Last years 24hr thunder run went ok on the back of insufficient miles and I did 78miles over a tough XC course with some quite devilish hills. I just accept that it'll bloody hurt!
Which other ultras have people done? You sound well travelled AJH!
TBH I havent done that many ultras or that long.....
Done JW Ultra 30 miles x 3
Draycote water 35 miles x 2
Tring to Town 40 x 1
I've got a 30 miler on Saturday in Bletchley.
The ones my OH considers a bit nuts are IM and 10 maras in 10 days. The way I see it, all these things are as much mental challenges as physical, and if you have the right mindset then it will go a long way to ensuring you suceed.
That is not to say of course that things cant go tits up!
78 miles on xc sounds pretty impressive Mr F!
Tits up indeed. I'm totally with you on the mental think. I've found the secret is keeping the doubt from your mind. At 3am, in the cold and often lonely, if your head drops and you get the negative thoughts going round they just manifest themselves in your brain and drag you down. You need to remember that you will go through a few rough patches that will test your resolve to the limit, but if you cam keep going you come out the other side feeling much better!
Mr F - surprise gift......nah.....she logged on and got me the place - the financial burden is all mine
Mental challenge - totally. You have to want to do it and you have to think you can do it - and that's half the job done. Most people wouldn't want to and wouldn't think they could. I would say that most endurance athletes have huge self-belief, and can't see a limit or keep on moving it.
I used to have a great Nike sweatshirt which said "There Is No Finish Line"
what sort of weekly mileage mileage will people be doing before this 100 miler. i`m currently on 60per week. with a long run every few weeks of 30miles, whats everyone else doing. cheers.
40 per week will be my limit!
Yeah I think I will err on the lesser side.
I always think that there is too much risk of injury if I up the miles too much.
One thing I will try and do though is back to backs when tired. If I learnt anything during the 10 in 10 it is that I wish not that I had done more miles in training, but that I wish I had done more tired miles in training.
Cos boy are you going to be tired
I am looking at the Kent 50 in a few weeks just as a plod it round and try out a 25, 5 strategy. Just got to work out if I cab get there and stuff.
I did the Lightning Run earlier this year, and Edinburgh Marathon last month. I shall be starting from a marathon-distance base, but have been recovering from an ankle injury that was done during the Lightning Run.
My running has been minimal due to the ankle injury but I have been cross-training and doing core stability in order to build up strength. I am looking to start building that up again over the next few months as I have marathons and half marathons in the Autumn to do.
At the moment I am looking at this and assuming I will need the full 30 hours as my base level. I know that I have not really done any other ultras, and have a tendency to jump right on in at the deep end (my first ever race was the London Marathon). Where should I be looking for a good training plan?
Any advice would be gratefully received
Vixx there's absolutely no reason you can't be ready for a 100 between now and next March, as long as you have the mental strength and you put the work in you'll be fine.
Have a look here for a training program and then have a look at the other races worldwide, be prepared to waste a few hours though
When I am in Birmingham I will be running over the Clent Hills to just get my hill work in. Am doing the Thunder Run in 4 weeks as part of a team and am hoping for 5 laps minimum there too.
Vixx, hoping to stay in motor home the night before I'd I cam get my support team off the ground!
The Thames 100 is attractive simply because it starts about twenty minutes from my door and I know quite a bit of the route
Does anyone know if you get a refund if you have to pull out and someone else takes your place from the reserve list? I am guessing not but thought I would ask....
Hi Andy!