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There's a vegan running club, I believe. Don't know any members, but one of their ladies won the Halstead Marathon a few years ago.
My club is based on geographic location, as we like to run together and we all live in the same area. I think we're all meat-eaters, but that's not a condition of membership.
It does seem a little odd, PC.
As you say, we are all runners, so what difference does whether you eat meat or not make? Would the club refuse membership to someone if they were not vegetarian?
I can see how it might be helpful to be a member of a veggie club. One of the things I don't give enough thought to generally (and particularly in conjunction with running) is nutrition, and that's going to change significantly if you're not eating meat or dairy. Is scoffing all these walnuts really the way to get my protein? I'm not sure.
Could probably google that, though!
I find it more helpful to be able to meet others locally and run with them. Keeps my motivation going. A national club might not do that. A virtual one on here might be nice though
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It does seem a little odd, PC. As you say, we are all runners, so what difference does whether you eat meat or not make? Would the club refuse membership to someone if they were not vegetarian?
There must be a joke about Victoria Beckham in there somewhere.....
Had a mooch on the website...
Founded in 1888... that's a pretty impressive history.
"Their objective was to provide a means of contact between Vegetarian cycling enthusiasts and to seek to prove, by the yardstick of athletic competition that Vegetarians could easily hold their own against their meat eating counterparts."
That seems an entirely honourable intent, given what people must have thought at the time about vegetariansim.
Scott Jurek pretty much nails any lingering misconceptions about what vegans are capable of now.
Are you a member Peter? Or even considering joining?
In terms of the myths that continue to be churned out regarding veganism, I'd say there was still a need for vegan groups to challenge some of the presumptions linked to that movement. There's a vegan runners group and a weightlifters group, too, from what I've heard - challenging those perceptions of skinny wan-ness. I guess when you're passed by someone in one of those vegan vests in a race it puts any "lentil-muching weaklings" crap in its place. Although the lentil-munching part might be right.
It seems to have only been over the last 10 years or so that us veggies have been accepted as being capable of doing all the things meat-eaters can do as well. Before that, I think we too were thought of as wasting away, chomping on our broccoli. Cheers, Morrissey. I think Scott Jurek might have caused quite a few people to re-evaluate their perceptions of veganism but is unlikely to have made a dominant attitude like that change single-handedly, and there's still a long way to go.
Although, having said all of that, if you're veggie and don't pay attention to your diet, I guess there are nutrients you could be missing out on. That's why a group based around that might be helpful now. I guess its a question of priority - is your devotion to "the cause" more important than the practical support of a local running club? I have to say that in my case it wasn't.
I'm a veggie & have been since I was little. I don't really pay attention to my diet, just skip the meat & eat what I fancy. I've never felt that I wasn't on an level playing field with meat-eaters.
Mike Tyson has been a vegan for the past couple of years. His conversion came a bit too late for Evander Holyfield's ear though.
I realised when I started taking vitamin B and it made a BIG difference (mood, mostly, rather than fitness) that there clearly wasn't enough in my diet. I think being veggie plays a significant part in that, but equally there are probably a lot of meat eaters with nutrient deficiencies too.
Mike Tyson probably still has that ear sloshing around his system.
Wouldn't being a successful member of a non-vegetarian running or cycling club prove that "Vegetarians could easily hold their own against their meat eating counterparts."?
In fact wouldn't that spread the word to more meat-eaters?
I don't know her name - I was marshalling near the finish, and saw her vest as she went past me.
It was pouring with rain at the time!
Wouldn't being a successful member of a non-vegetarian running or cycling club prove that "Vegetarians could easily hold their own against their meat eating counterparts."?In fact wouldn't that spread the word to more meat-eaters?
It might do, if you're prepared to be one individual campaigning to (and probably pissing off) the other members of your running club. On the other hand, if you're more comfortable doing your proselytising in a group format (or if you just want some moral support) then this would be an equally valid way of getting a point across.
Hmm...that's a bit flippant. I think I'm trying to say that its about visibility. Running a race in one of those vests makes a statement. Going round and talking about your dietary choices to everyone you race with might also make that statement, but it could also make you pretty tiresome.
I'd say clubs like this still have a valid role.
Entirely irrelevant - a bit like running as a christian.
I just don't understand the need to preach, politicise and declare.
Is it part of the veg vegan superiority, holier than thou, complex that seems so prevalent?