GILMORES GROIN

Hi,Been out injured for 6 months now,gone down the usual avenues with no confirmed diagnosis.Having searched the web,my symptoms seem to point towards GILMORES GROIN.My question to anyone out there is,which HOSPITAL on the NHS will confirm diagnosis and potentailly operate as £2000+ is not an option at the minute for me!! I should mention that I DO have a GP letter of referal,so now need to select the appropriate specailist,would be very grateful for anyones experience with this.

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  • Groin symptoms can be misleading in my experience. I convinced myself that's what I had last year. I went to a specialist sports physio who said unlikely with runners. More likely to be osteitis pubis due to over training and weak core. This is what it turned out to be, thank heavens. Core exercises and no running for a while sorted it out.
  • Thanks for the reply,I hope your right and it is not Gilmores groin.I have tried COMPLETE rest now on 3 occasions for 4-5 weeks each time and on resuming running the pain comes back 20-30 mins into the run,with real soreness the next day.How long did you rest for and what core exercises did you do?
  • The physio I saw at Lilleshall was specialised in sports injury and rehab. I researched my symptoms on line and convinced myself I had Gilmores groin. Pain during and after a run, worse the following day. Pain rolling over in bed and pressing my knees together. It all seemed to fit. She said gilmores groin was unlikely. she gave me core strengthening exercises- I cannot remember them all but quite a few involved balancing on a Bosu ball. I gave up running for three months image whilst still exercising on eliptical cross trainer which did not cause any irritation. It was tough not running for so long, but it did the trick. I've been fine since.

  • I've been referred to a consultant in Newcastle on the NHS for suspected Gilmores Groin, just waiting for the appointment to come through.  My symptons fit exactly and my physio  ruled out hip abductor and pubis problems and an x ray and ultrasound that my gp requested also came back clear. I understand osteitis pubis would have shown on xray, have you had an xray and ultraound?

     I'm currently 7 weeks into not running and still suffer pain after swimming and walking down steep hills so not running isn't improving it. any. Even just running across the road for example brings immediate pain.

    PM me and I'll give you the consultant's name whom my physio recommended.

  • Hi Rossy,Your problems sound quite severe!   I can rest for 3 weeks and my symptoms almost dissapear,until I try running again!!  I live near Manchester,and now have an appointment at Warrington hospital.I haven't yet been diagnosed,so I hope they can do that there.I have only had an ultrasound scan so far which was clear.I would,however,like to see a physio before my hospital appointment,so if anyone knows a physio who specialises in groin problems,near manchester,please let me know.thanks.Paul.
  • Paul, how did you get on?

    Ive had the problem for a long time, had MRI, ultrasound, physio, EMG tests, all clear, had an epidural steroid injection into lumbar spine, no joy. My running has decreased to nothing now, as Mark said,  lots of core work, pilates, yoga etc... and the eliptical, sadly not the same buzz as running but trying to keep my fitness at a level.

    Examined by a general surgeon at Stepping Hill who found that my inguinal ring was dilated (another symptom of Gilmores) but because he couldn't find a hernia he was stumped, when I mentioned Gilmores he wasn't really sure what I was talking about and refered me to Rheumatology??????

    Anyway to cut a very, very long story short, bit the bullet and searched for a surgeon locally with knowledge of groin injuries and found  Aali Jan Sheen cost @£190 for the consultation but he does the op on the NHS at Manchester Royal, a bit of a wait but I am hoping it will be worth it.

    Hope your diagnosis doesn't take as long as mine.

     Tom

  • You have obviously been through quite a lot to get where you are now!!! Have you seen dr.Sheen yet,if so did he diagnose you easily in the consultation, also how long is the wait to have it done on NHS at Manchester?Paul.
  • I had my consultation with Mr Sheen 28th May, pre op end of June, still waiting for my op, I did get a date for the 27 Oct but that was a cancellation with another surgeon, not going with anyone else so I cancelled that,  spoke with his secretary and she assured me it will before xmas, having waited this long I thought it was worth the wait to get the surgeon I wanted.

    As for the diagnosis, he really went off my past history and the investigations that I had (MRI, nerve conduction tests etc) to rule other things out such as hip/pelvis abnormalities.

    He has diagnosed chronic groin pain syndrome, basically pressure on the genitofemoral nerve or the ileoinguinal nerve with no hernia present and possibly a lipoma present within the core (not sure what that means)

    He is going to try a laparoscopic repair 80 - 90% success rate, if that doesn't work he will have to open me up which will involve disruption on the conjoint tendon.

    The treatment through the NHS was diabolic and extremely slow, each department was very keen to offload me to the next, the last surgeon I saw at Stepping Hill signed me off to rheumatology even though I had no symptoms whatsoever, that was the last straw and made me go to Mr Sheen.

    Try and get as much as you can ruled out and don't let them fob you off, I found out too late that if you complain you get treated much better.

    good luck

    Tom

  • Hey Tom,I have now switched my NHS appointment over to dr sheen,so will hopefully receive a consultation date soon.I live in A-U-L,so the MRI suits me fine,thanks for reccomending someone local that specialises.Let me know how you get on with your op.Take care.Paul.

  • Paul just got my date through for the 20th October, a week earlier than with the other surgeon.  If you get a date for the op after seeing Mr Sheen make sure that you keep in touch with his secretary for dates, thats what I started doing and it seemed to have worked.

  • I was examined for Gilmores which involved applying pressure by hand somewhere around the testicles.  The consultant said it definately wasn't as I'd have gone through the roof.  My symptoms were pretty much as described by others.  Although the pain was severe at times an MRI showed only very minor irritation where the adductor joins the pubic bone.  It took 8months of pilates and no running to sort it.  Weak core tight lower back and hams was the cause.  It's aslow area to heal I'm afraid.
  • Hi, this is an old thread but I was wondering if any of the original posters who used Mr. Sheen are still around and if so did he cure your groin pain problems?
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