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But would still be good to see you in a relay.
Silver Trucker wrote (see)
Same as just finish would be my goal and then find Cake for post outlaw gunniess and rum
I will be easy to find feller. Word of caution the bar at the finesh line doesn't have guinniess on draft annoying but there are always ways and all that.
Doner Kebab wrote (see)
hope to see cake at worksop hallween half - any other pirates doing it? or rutland for that matter?
I'm afraid I've had to drop out of worksop as well because of stuff on. Not doing to great with races at the moment. I might pop down anyway on the bike to the start line depending on if got the time and if I have to go somewhere else or not. It's slightly annoying. Are you local to the area? If yes happy to meet up in the peaks some time and say hello on a bike.
Orca - hmmm - I know what you mean. But prob best not to even think about it all at the mo.
I'm determined to be mentally fresh and am not going to do IM training until after Christmas. i've got a base and I'm maintaining it at the mo (except swimming) so at the mo if ever I get a 'that would be good IM training' type thought I shove it away. Meanwhile have instead decided to work on my running a bit, speed in particular. So it's feeling quite wierd to go out and do a threshold run or some hill work or something which seems really short - but gratifyingly hard. It'll help IM a bit but the main thing is it's still training but is completely diff to IM stuff. I did the Grim duathlon yesterday, am goign to give a local 10 miler a bash in a couple of weeks and may do the Grim 9 miler in Dec just because it's completely different. And just a bit stupid.
Orca you're a great swimmer so it's not going to kill you not to swim for a bit. Give yourself a break! (might give me a chance to catch up with you, too )
A quiet week for me last week, 5 hours, 3 swims, 2 bikes and just 1 run, nothing longer than an hour.
When I checked back the previous 5 weeks had all been about 7 hours, so that seemed about right !!
Also Orca, if, when the Time To Train arrives - or during the training - you feel demotivated, just remember how brilliant Regensburg was before, during and after and that to feel that good again, you've got to train.And if you DO train, you'll feel fab again and it will all be MARvellous!
Thanks Hen for the motivation. I think the secret to Ironman motivation is to keep AH on speed dial
I start back running this week, first time in 6 weeks. Rather scary! Just planning 2-3 easy runs this week to reintroduce the concept to the body.
Decided to try something new so have signed up with local sub aqua club as I've wanted to get my diving licence for ages. Yay! Another sport I can spend a small (or not so small) fortune on. However I was a bit worried about the medical as I do have mild asthma but the doctor passed me so very happy about that. Last week was my first night of training. I'd forgotten what it was like to be cold in a pool!
OK. I'm in!
I have caught up on the posts to date, already learnt loads. The volume is my main concern. I work a 10 day shift pattern which obviously doesn't match weekly schedules, but I'll adapt. Will be ordering FINK for November bedside reading and inspiration.
I'm doing Dublin marathon this weekend so had planned a few weeks recovery to forget any training plan for a while. It will be the cycling that I need to put in most effort. Hope to include some training by regular cycle commuting (when the spring comes!) This will be my first (and last?) go at the full distance with 2 HIM in the last 3 years. I think I'm capable of <15hrs but finishing will be great.
I had thought that I'd wait and stick closely to a 20 week plan, as I know it will get difficult to maintain the enthusiasm. Luckily , as pointed out earlier in this thread, being my first attempt I have the fear factor to push me out the door! Having found this thread I'll go with the 5 Dec start date to start the "journey".
Have thought about Marazion Miiddle distance as a "warm up". A sea swim, so not quite the same as Outlaw, but will give some "race day" confidence. Not sure when entry opens.
Can't promise to post too frequently, but I'll catch up.
Welcome aboard Floreat.
A lot of runners recommend a 10 day or 2 week cycle.
ok first day of the Fink plan, it feels totally different to think in time, not miles, it's gonna take some getting used to.
OC - About junk miles, I junk mile every day, I power walk at work between 7 and 9 miles a day and don't count it as training, it's just my basic aerobic fitness. I plan to carry on as a little bit extra isn't going to hurt. So if you bike to work regulary then why change?
Cat- I did a marathon 2 weeks ago, although it would be nice to keep the distance up, I am really fed up of just running. I reckon if I plan in a 13 mile run every other week or so, until the Fink plan catches up, then that and the bike training should still keep me up there. (I am doing Stamford 30k race in Feb) so fingers crossed.
What does everyone like about the Fink plan? There are so many plans out there it's hard to choose, and after a 70.3 of which I had 3 colds over 5 months, I realise the downside to overtraining and not properly resting on my rest day.
I read an interesting article about minimalist IM training, that it's the quality of the sessions and not necessarily the hours. Yes, one long run and cycle per work, but other sessions take in less mileage, with an average weekly total of no more than 13 hours per week.
Anyone know of, or has tried these types of plans?
I believe I only averaged 11 hours a week on my first one and still ended up completely over trained. Fink's Intermediate plan only has that much in the peak phase of the Intermediate program. An average weekly total of 13 hours a week can add up to a lot of training!
Just Finish ProgramBase Phase – Just Finish Program – Weeks 1 to 10Begins with 3 hours a week, concludes with almost 7 hours a week Averages about 5 hours a week Build Phase – Just Finish Program - Weeks 11-20Begins with around 7 hours a week, concludes with about 9 hours a week Averages about 8 hours a week Peak Phase – Just Finish Program - Weeks 21-30Begins with around 10 hours a week and remains at that for 8 weeksAverages about 9 hours a week
Intermediate ProgramBase Phase – Intermediate Program – Weeks 1 to 10Begins with 6 hours a week, concludes with 11 hours a week Averages about 8.5 hours a week
Build Phase – Intermediate Program - Weeks 11-20Begins with around 11 hours a week, concludes with about 12.5 hours a week Averages about 11.5 hours a week Peak Phase – Intermediate Program - Weeks 21-30Begins with around 13 hours a week and peaks at 15 hours a weekAverages about 13 hours a week
Competitive ProgramBase Phase – Competitive Program – Weeks 1 to 10Begins with 6 hours a week, concludes with 11 hours a week Averages about 8.5 hours a week
Build Phase – Competitive Program - Weeks 11-20Begins with around 12 hours a week, concludes with about 16 hours a week Averages about 13 hours a week
Peak Phase – Competitive Program - Weeks 21-30Begins with around 16 hours a week and peaks at 20 hours a weekAverages about 15 hours a week
Orca-good weather and a PB would be perfect!.
Frodo-I lived there as a lad and follow the Town.....real football!
Last long run of marathon plan today a quick 10 miler.
Flat Foo.ted wrote (see)
I'm renaming AH as Mother Hen for all the parental style advice she is handing out on this thread...
Btw Postie, are you doing Outlaw? Seems very early to be starting Fink.
Oh hang on, did you say you were planning to repeat the first few weeks to just get your body used to that kind of training?
Orca wrote (see)
Btw Postie, are you doing Outlaw? Seems very early to be starting Fink. Oh hang on, did you say you were planning to repeat the first few weeks to just get your body used to that kind of training?
I am doing the bike leg of a relay team at Outlaw ( then Vit in Sept), I just want to train to IM standard just to prove to myself that I could do it.... if I wanted to and also lose some of the weight I have put on by being very lax about my training!. The reason I am not entering solo, is, I have had enough of running marathons, in particular,the marathon route of Outlaw(did it last year and had a really cr*ppy time of it). It also means I will get to see the OH finish(he's a tad quicker than me) .
I am planning to repeat the first few weeks of Fink until the D day.
Ah OK, I understand now. I don't think it's something I could do though as I don't think I could put myself through the IM training without having an IM race at the end of it. But I get where you're coming from.
Mofo, I've been feeling the same way. I've just been swimming, eating, putting on weight etc etc. I start IM training on November 21st (giving myself a 2 week cushion to account for work and life getting in the way during the 30 week training cycle) so over the next four weeks, I'm easing myself into it, improving my diet, starting to fit in one run and cycle a week, bring it up to 2 a week by the time training starts. Like OC says, it gets to the point where you just have to bite the bullet.
Quick question for those who have done multiple IMs. How do you get the motivation back year after year. I'm not scheduled to start training properly for another month and am just ticking over at the moment but even at that, I'm struggling with motivation.
well... year 3 hits and here we go again. I had a month off, and now I am raring to go..... 3 reasons I think
Thanks Andy, thats a very good article. Not sure about his calculation for aerobic training zone though. Sounds a bit simplified. But I'm sold on the endurance base philosophy.