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Did the 10 k last Sunday; VERY wet n windy, and will now apply my mind ( and miles) to the marathon
Trying to work on a plan; based onthe variuos versions here on the site. Only problem is I ENJOY th elong ( 10/12/14 ) mile runsand most of theplans seem to ditchthese for quite a few weeks; any thoughts
Rach; sorry about your scare; hope it doesn't put you off
Gaz- 3h52 on the back of 2 months training... impressive. Just think what you might be capable of next time!
Holly Liz- fast if very subjective. What's fast for you and me is probably super slow for others and at the same time I'm sure there are many folks out there who wouldn't dream of running as fast or far as you do! For the first one I would say- don't worry too much about the speed but make sure you get the miles in. Nothing wrong with having a time in mind but don't get too hung up about it. And whatever you do don't get carried away going off too fast.
Jennie- you'll be fine... just keep on adding the miles. Don't think about it in terms '13 miles all over again'. It makes it sound a lot more daunting...
Hi Gobi- calm and reasoning is what I will need for sure so good to have you on the thread.
Jeepers- hope all goes well and you're back in the game soon!
15 miles for me on Sunday with 6 at MP. Wanted to give it a try as a bit worried about all these big chunks of long runs run at MP in theP&D schedule. Managed ok but it wasn't easy. Looking for some 20mile races in March / April to do use them for this purpose. Found Finchley 20 in March but April seems a bit more tricky...
9miles home tonight with 5@ LT. Hopefully the wind won't interere too much this time.
Mon: There's a 20m in Oakley, Bedfordshire on 1 April.
Wow, Looks like Gobi has come in a stirred things up in a positive way. Lots of activity !!!
Welcome to all the new folk on the thread, your being well looked after by mr spoons, gobi and NP whom are very generous with their time. I appreciated the Hope you are all able to stick around and we can spur each other on through to the spring marathons.
Last year was my first marathon and I built up the mile slowly and gradually. This meant that I did not do the speed sessions this far out as Gobi states is a good idea. However thats because I felt a solid base and injury avoidance were more important based on my history and I pleased I did that as I got to the start line fresh and injury free and with enough miles under the belt to make the race "comfortable". To me that is a key aim for any person attempting their first marathon
However this time I am better equipped than before as I have more miles under the belt, so am taking Gobi's advice and ensuring one speed session per week, be it tempo or Intervals. Both will be a lot faster than MP at this stage and I think the body can cope this time around
Nice tempo run home at 4min38sec/km average. The fastest yet.
Couldn't agree more about getting enough miles in before doing speed work and about the importance of recovery/ not doing too much too soon. Took me a year and a half to learn how to back off and start listening to those who know better. I think I could've improved a lot more over the last year if I wasn't hammering it every time and going into most sessions exhausted. Oh well... better late than never.
Thought I'd join in, just starting running seriously, have jogged before and done a couple of 10ks have been reguarly going to the gym so coming at it from a fairly good basic fitness level, I'm aiming for my first marathon next year, shooting for Chicago in Oct, have entered a half in April and May.
1 week into training I'm doing smaller runs ready to build a good basis before starting marathon training, this week I've done 5 runs, 3 of 3 miles and 2 at 5 miles, I know thats not going to get me anywhere, I've just been aiming to slow down, establish a steady 8 mile a minute pace before I start to build up the distances, as a first time distance runner, anyone got any good suggestions to build up the miles? think i've read too many different training programs and been baffled by science
Thanks for the welcome folks and comments and I'm im total agreement about building up miles slowly - that's one of the benefits of HR training (well, for me) in that the emphasis is on gradual build up at recovery rate / slow pace.
I've had a number of non-running related injuries in the past, so have adopted the conservative approach. Training this way has meant that I have been able to increase my weekly 25 mpwk to 40 - 50 injury-free.
I'd rather wait and enter the mara when I'm ready than rush into one too soon and suffer the consequences.
Gary- which halves are you doing? Are you aiming for a specific time in Chicago?
9 miles into work this morning. Nothing like hitting the river in complete darkness with noone around and running into the city. At times like this I can't understand how I could NOT run for the majority of my life.
Thanks for all the advice Gobi, its appreciated and just what i needed, was aiming to start gradually but it's nice to read that im on the right tracks anyway, I'll let you know how i get on
Mon, as for halfs Im doing the Tewkesbury half in May and a race in Bath which is more 12.5 mile cross country in April. for a first marathon in Chicago im aiming to finish, but with 10 months to train id certainly like to be in under 4 hours as i didnt think that was too ambitious, what would you aim for on your first marathon?
I know what you mean about having the world to yourself on those early morning runs, my new favourite place in the world is hitting the downs early then running past the zoo, hearing the animals waking up and growling on the other side of the wall
Gary- what did you do your 10k races in? It should give you a good indication of what you should be aiming for.
I think 4 hours is a good target for the first one. That's what I was aiming for and managed to smash it @ 3h52. 10 months is plenty of time to get where you want to be.
*lurks and then sneaks in*...hello all, may i join in the banter for 2012 please?..my first mara is in jan 2012 so im pretty close now...lots of interesting chatter that is good advice too...
Xmas is cancelled in Spoons's house wrote (see)
Shuddup with that mentor nonsense Minni. I don't have a clue what I'm talking about and you know it!
did 10 ks in 48 minutes, hadnt done any training for that though, other than usual gym/cross training so that should be improoved upon,
Lou what time are you aiming for? how long've you been in training for?
hello spoons...im here now too..
...gary, my longest events so far have been 2 HMs. my first in july was an XC , second in sept was oxford HM. my mara training started mid october. my longest runs have been past 3 weekends of 17/19/17 and feeling ok im aiming for 4:30 .my 19 miles took me 3:05
Welcome Lou. Which mara are you doing in Jan? It's close now...
Gary- based on your 10k time you should be capable of 3h45 according to mcmillan. However based on my experience and other forumites' opinions his predictions tend to be accurate up to a half marathon distance. When it comes to a mara he tends to be on a slightly optimistic side. If I were you I would be aiming for 3h45-3h55. My 10k time was very similar to yours before my first mara and as I said I managed 3h52 on a hilly and hot course (Madrid).
thank you spoons..as you say this is my first mara so i want to just finish and feel okim not too fuseed abt my time. when i decided to do the mara i just went on 4:30 based on my HM times and adding on extra time for the last miles with possible fatigue. if i finish faster thn 4:30 thn its a bonus but i agree with you and will still use 4:30 as my aim.
hi Mon77*waves* im doing Gloucester..if i cant travel there due to bad weather then i may opt for cotswold mara which is 4 weeks later
jason d wrote (see)
Lou- it's a busy corner
ohhh dear..what have you done Jason?...*moves up on naughty bench to make space*