From my point of view of the checkpoints I manned, the only 'wasted' time was in queing for the loo at checkpoint 10
I think Iain and I managed to have the drinks and food prepared as you came in. The time taken to eat and drink something hot is as much part of the event as the walking.
The one overriding thing I learned from this years Trailwalk is that good support is essential and the trailwalk 'team' is not just the walkers.
Oh....
And not having 10 hours of torrential rain helps too :-)
Eamonn: the reason you didn't see me at CP11 is that I was sitting out in the rain at the time. I'm sure there was a reason but somehow it's now slipped my mind.
I suspected the check point time added up, I'd never have thought as much as that though.
I agree with Josie, apart from a minor hitch with brekkie at CP8, it was the loo stops that held things up. There was the need for other things such as bandaging and all that too, but that was unavoidable really.
For a really fast time it would be possible to cut down on stops to a bare minimum - change the whole eating strategy to eating small amounts on the go. Keeping water is essential, but if we're looking to maximise speed we could have two sets of bottles and take the empty set A and hand out the full set B, and then reverse this at that next check point.
It's possible to reduce time at check points enormously - but a major question is when does reducing "stop" time start to affect the speed between check points?
seriously, i reckon you can go as bear says for about 12-14 hours, then you need to plan in a proper break The gurkhas thought of that didnt they-checkpoint 7
Those are both just such fragrant ways of saying "take a pee in the bushes" ;o)
If a team adapted all the strategies suggested, then CP time can be cut to pretty much zero (as long as you can keep going without a sit down/need to bandage etc)
Would it be possible to jog some bits - say the relatively flat bits to minimise jarring on the joints?
i think some bits would be joggable but it might reduce overall walking speed i managed 33.2 in 8.75 at the weekend run/walk that was mostly flat with mud and mountains, 38.5 miles took me 14 hours longest stop i had on both was 15 minutes once
IMO strategies such as these have to be tried out beforehand in a walk of a decent length to see how effective they are. You can theorie about it until the cows come home but you have to test your theories to see what really does maximise overall speed. Otherwise you may start TW05 with the wrong strategy.
I'd like to underline the point that our fab support team didn't 'waste' any time at all. You were completely and utterly fab! I didn't add in the last leg - apologies - it was the only time I didn't note! Our overall stop time was around 6.5 hours, and on the day, that's what we needed. Benz - the TW instructions specifically ask team not to carp cross country!
pingu and i attempted to walk hadrians wall nonstop but got thwarted by an old knee injury of Pingu's at aprox 55 miles and decided that discretion was wise!!(approx 25 miles short!) then this weekend we just commpleted the rat race, urban adventure in scotland. a weekend of wild adventure racing fun!!
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7 hours at checkpoints
well if you were walking that fast, you must have neede a rest
now i think last year that took us 18
I think Iain and I managed to have the drinks and food prepared as you came in. The time taken to eat and drink something hot is as much part of the event as the walking.
The one overriding thing I learned from this years Trailwalk is that good support is essential and the trailwalk 'team' is not just the walkers.
Oh....
And not having 10 hours of torrential rain helps too :-)
I agree with Josie, apart from a minor hitch with brekkie at CP8, it was the loo stops that held things up. There was the need for other things such as bandaging and all that too, but that was unavoidable really.
For a really fast time it would be possible to cut down on stops to a bare minimum - change the whole eating strategy to eating small amounts on the go. Keeping water is essential, but if we're looking to maximise speed we could have two sets of bottles and take the empty set A and hand out the full set B, and then reverse this at that next check point.
It's possible to reduce time at check points enormously - but a major question is when does reducing "stop" time start to affect the speed between check points?
seriously, i reckon you can go as bear says for about 12-14 hours, then you need to plan in a proper break
The gurkhas thought of that didnt they-checkpoint 7
especially after wht you said about the checkpoint 10 loo josie
If a team adapted all the strategies suggested, then CP time can be cut to pretty much zero (as long as you can keep going without a sit down/need to bandage etc)
Would it be possible to jog some bits - say the relatively flat bits to minimise jarring on the joints?
i am NOT!!!!!!!!!
i think some bits would be joggable
but it might reduce overall walking speed
i managed 33.2 in 8.75 at the weekend run/walk
that was mostly flat
with mud and mountains, 38.5 miles took me 14 hours
longest stop i had on both was 15 minutes
once
bad crosspost
IMO strategies such as these have to be tried out beforehand in a walk of a decent length to see how effective they are. You can theorie about it until the cows come home but you have to test your theories to see what really does maximise overall speed. Otherwise you may start TW05 with the wrong strategy.
This is that hippo marathon and ultra strategy
it wiil take a looooong time
Benz - the TW instructions specifically ask team not to carp cross country!
then this weekend we just commpleted the rat race, urban adventure in scotland. a weekend of wild adventure racing fun!!
i did NOT mean carp
wee wees are ok , no?