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Disagree and it is not something to rely on IMO
Train away from cut offs and not up to them .... train smart and strive for better not average
I guess it depends on the roads that you cycle on. I averaged 12-12.5 mph for my first two years of cycling. Now its between 13.5-14. All my cycling is done on crappy country roads.
I average 14.6 mph when I did Outlaw in 2010
She's right (dammit). I'm sure most of us remember the wind and rain on the Southern loop of the 'fastest course we've ever had'! The Northen loop with the hill was fast and easy!
Razor ... only on some occaisions and rarely in the UK with the state of our roads
and our weather isnt much better !!!
I do agree that you can squeak a few mph out of race day, abit of adrenalin, a bit of open road et.c but you cant go through training banking on it
If you are chasing cut offs then you have to train consistently and consistently look beyond the cut off time and make no assumptions at your predicted swim time which will also have an effect on the next one
That is exactly the point ... dont *aim* for 17 hrs ..
What is your plan B?? Fail???
dont want to sound mean but - its ironman, ffs, if you want the title do the training, if youre doing outlaw you have already paid, stop thinking about your average speed, highest speed, lowest possible speed i could get away with if just make the swim cut off. you got 8 months to improve, training = improvement most of the time, you will improve, so that shitty 12 mph average will be a 14 mph average and you will have spent xx hours worrying about nothing. stop writing on the forums and get in the gym, stop reading the responses to the threads and get in an extra 30 minutes sweat fest on the turbo - be an IRONMAN, train like you really want it, if youre that close to the cuts, train some more ( but dont forget rest days
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"Swim 2.4 miles Bike 112 miles Run 26.2 miles Brag for the rest of your life "
but do the fcking training first then worry the month before, youll be so knackered you wont give a shit and youll just want it over and then itll be too late.
rant over
It's a fair point Donna. Barring a mechanical, it's not a course that anybody should need 17 hours for. It might be better if they brought the cut-off in to 16 hours so that the spectators can get to the pub for lasties.
That's going on the wall as motivation
climb..i thought it was flat :0
Its of the gradient and length that you wouldn't give a second's thought to if you came across it on a gentle training ride. Nothing to head space and nothing to train especially for
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I entered this because it was flat
It's not a hill, more of a speed bump.
It was the wind on the "fast" southern loop that was the killer this year.
It's too early to worry about cut offs, averages and all that bollocks. Just get as much cycling in as you can, road or turbo. Get used to your bike, get used to pedalling, get used to suffering.
"The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle"
Now go and become a sweaty Pixie.
Pixie as above don't worry about the hill yet and get training chuckles if you still think you need to play on a hill shout up next year and I can take you round some local speed bumps up here.
Wondering if I can get round on my bikes greaing , wil have to study both the gears and the numpty bike thread to figure out what I've got.
anyone know when I should start nagging for a race place from the waitlist ?
it had better be flat, or ill be walking lots