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So I think my silly knee thing is ITB related, what's your favourite ITB stretches? I'm going to stretch the f-er out of this thing and it IS going to be right! Maybe before the weekend so i can do 15km run for the kids... Maybe.
If only i could upload you a photo of the bruise my physio left on it Tuesday, it's fist size and looks a beauty!!
Foam roller it Jus T!
Alexander - I agree with TJB & GE. For most people the marathon from 20/22 to 26.2 is a whole different ball game. Up to then you'll have been running faster (for the distance) than before but race day adrenaline seems to even that out, but you'll reach a point where you start to hurt and it doesn't go away. Part of your mind will be screaming at you to slow down or even stop. If you hit that point feeling positive about where you are compared to your target then it's mentally easier to carry on through it, but if the target is too ambitious and you're only just hanging on or are a little behind it can make it a whole lot tougher.
Orb - High fiving the kids definitely helps. Nice for them and everyone is a little lift.
okay...apparently you can't stretch an ITB (I don't necessarily believe that but will go with the flow), you need to massage it out. The most effective way of doing this is using a foam roller down the side of your leg for 5-10 mins each day.
The Runnersworld Paris marathon thread "officially" (well...as official as we get) recognises the OROD or BROD as very effective for this type of rehab (aka PAIN, MASSIVE PAIN, but in a good way), to be found here or wherever else you can get it cheap. The translation of our affectionate name is: Orange/Black roller of doom...enjoy.
Done! And good morning everyone. It's sunny here. Wow it's been a while.
I know I shouldn't probably say this...but...I got an email so though, "I should check out this convocawhatnot". Went into ASO challenges login, selected the bit on the side with convocationnny on it, details of my entry came up, with a print doc link at the top. Am I just living in a mad parallel world?
RR - you're near a few of us around the finish. I'm pretty sure there will be a group lunch (eat until you can't eat noooo more) in the area at about 2-3ish.
DLR - personally I have very little experience, virtually none. However after a failed long run, a lot of things I read which really touched home was 'mental'. I had told myself I couldn't do it and I proved myself right. Those having doubts about pacing will probably struggle on the day if they chose the faster one. *note to myself *
Am delighted to say that Weedy is joining us for our little jaunt across Europe this summer, In The Long Run #ITLR2013. Gonna' be a blast
Glad I don't have to get all convocated to join in as a supporter for you guys. Has anyone else got any supporters they need taking care of? At the moment it looks like me and Leeds Rob have only got The Jimbob's friend Ingrid to look after (and a question mark next to Kaz's girls).
Malcs... what to eat is a dliemma. I've experimented with a wide variety of foods and yes, stopping at McD's for a meal has been done many times. That's all very well if I'm out on my own on a road run but many ultra events are off-road and there just aren't any shops. So.. the dilemma then is to carry something, but keep the weight down. My current experimentation is trying to get to an almost totally liquid diet and just using solids from the aid stations such as sausage rolls, savory eggs and other such things. I rarely use gels but am happy to take one if I feel it is necessary. I'm having some success with Perpetuem and will use that as my main fuelling for this weekend and I'll take some Muller Rice which can be sent ahead to the aid stations as a treat later on. I like jelly beans too.
Jus T - only backing-up Radar Sal here; you have to get on the foam roller. Agony at first then, after a few sessions, a tremendous relief. Prop yourself up sideways (with the idle leg on top of the one you're rolling on adding weight) and roll up and down lenghth of the ITB. If feeling masochistic you can focus on the most painful bits. Try to relax, ha-ha.
Taper madness in full flow here for me!!
Please help allay my fears.....I've got a blister the size of Bristol on my big toe. It's a nasty one; red and angry. I've decided to concentrate on cycling this week in order to aid healing. Will my fitness suffer? I could normally anwser my own question but I am feeling neurotic - quite normal for me at taper time.
TD/YM - Who wants to deal with the moody teenager.......I am hoping she leaves her strops at Kirkwall airport two weeks today but no doubt I/we won't be sooooooo lucky!!!
Arm update - Its bloody agony and not being used??? another 33 hours until docs again........
Gorgeous, very frosty morning here again and looking forward to my 10 miles after work today. Not very impressed with the dvd I did this morning.......I thought It would be harder after reading lots of reports about how tough it is!! Anyway did first and second levels without anything breaking.
No, Elizabeth. You won't lose your fitness. But you can squander it. * Been there..* Don't go too mad on the bike, eh? Poor toe.
Hang in there, kaz. One day....mmm maybe around 19 (?)...even the moodiest turn into lovely, sociable and reasonable, grown-up butterflies. It's astonishing to witness. Way more impressive than the real thing.
I must say, I feel absolutely knackered
On the plus side, it is a fabulous....really!...morning. I'm living in a Bonnie Scotland calendar.
Tricky - it's likely I'll send Mr T your way, but he may well decide on the day.
Kaz - what is this DVD you speak of?? I hope your daughter is feeling better soon, no wonder she's got her strop on, I reckon I had a permanent strop from age 11 right through til 20!!! I'm sure yours isn't this bad all the time?
In unrelated matters, I got a kitchenaid for my bday and am going to try it out tonight with scones and brownies, man I LOVE eating whatever I want right now!!!
Haha JusT, no she's no like that all the time..........there is a break between 10pm and 6.30am!!!
Its the younger one thats done her arm. DVD, that is getting seriously raved about around here is 30 Day Shred, but quite frankly I don't see what the raving is about!! Its soooooooo hard I got told, You should give It a go.......etc etc.........Well levels 1 and 2 done without too much effort.
ATM - I do see a glimpse of that occassionally when she wants something....she can be soooooo lovley and charming!!!
Its snowing now
http://www.debretts.com/social-season/paris-marathon.aspx
I particularly like the description 'There can be few lovelier cities in which to start your spring keep-fit campaign'
I'm off to buy a hat and long gloves
Hi Jus T
Stick with the foam roller, good ITB stretches will assist with breaking down adhesionson the ITB and stretching the muscles theITB is attached too.
Enjoy Run For The Kids if you make it but don't push hard, keep your eye on Paris, I'm also doing RFTKs.
What about the rest of the A-Team? I pity the fool who's not going to Paris.
One thing that really struck me was the number of people finishing! The diversity of times was also interesting, in that some folks were coming through with faster chip times but slower gun times. Is that because you decided to start with your buddies, or because the run went better than expected?
My friend from work was telling me he'd read of Paris that people just stand and pee in the pens at the start due to the crowds. Is it really that bad? Is there an option to sneak into the pen at the last minute as it looks like a long wait before take off!
Pasta Papas - do they just do pasta? My group has now dropped from 4 to 3 and one of the ladies is gluten free so we need somewhere that she can get an alternative.
I'm not tapering well! I missed my last long run (Saturday) as I had a killer sore throat. I ran 5.5 miles and by the time I got to needing a third pee stop decided just to cut my losses. I've not run since as I felt terrible at the start of the week. Went to the GP yesterday as I'd completely lost my voice so am on my 2nd day off now. Still not feeling great by my voice is back, albeit a little bit croaky. She's said it's not on my chest and there's no fever, very localised in the throat so just a virus that will have to run it's course.
Clag - Yes, peeing in the pens has been known to take place!
Also give TD a shout over the gluten free issue. I know he is gluten intolerant and think he tends to bring his own gluten free pasta to eat. He might be able to help out your friend.
I have to pull out of this weekend. I've been ordered to stay at home and meet with the inlaws. I'd much prefer to run
Here's hoping Junior is OK. Well done on the medical certificate!
You are a complete inspiration to me and I have a lot of the similar values. If I can have a natter, have fun and enjoy where I'm running - i'll be a happy bunny. Time is not as important as the journey along the way.
Whoop whoop!!
I'm fully intending on baring my ass to a bunch of frenchies
5 miler today. IT Band only started hurting at mile 4. I'm stretching like a mad woman and keeping everything crossed for this weekend's LSR.
Oh sorry to hear you poorly people - I hope you all get well soon
EE, blisters are not nice. I use a tonne of vaseline every run, so don't get them - touch wood!!
it's glorious here today, going to hit 18 later, so will save my 5k till then and might try out my new top....
I like the photo of speeding up at 40K's - that sounds about right..!
Still not on the ASO, and not heard back from Paris....
It's not that bad. The pens are busy, but those in peeing mode do tend to shuffle off to the side.
Clag - they do have toilets in the pens but as it gets nearer to gun time the queues for these can become quite big. I didn't see anyone peeing in the pens but within 800m of the start people were nipping into the trees and this continued throughout.
Fantastic. I could certainly do the eating part but the running bit is out of my league. One other question - on a 100 miler how do you deal with chafing? Surely everything must rub. Do you carry a stock of vas or is that an essential part of the aid stations?
Also, I assume you carry a head torch if you're going through the night? I'd imagine that with the weather like it is at the moment it would get quite nippy too so do you have to carry several layers with you?
Quite an adventure. Really wish you the best of luck!
RR, that is a kill. +1 for the hat and long gloves. * packs fish fork, grape scissors and embroidered
handkerchief..* Clagg, as Debrett's would( not ) say..Do the 'toddler' thing. When you shut your eyes, you are invisible. If you've got to go, you've got to go. Maybe not on the Champs, eh? There's a TV camera in that helicopter...
Malcs, on past form, DV will be posting on this thread throughout the marathon..
Good point about blisters, though. If it does turn out to be really hot, watch out for the fire brigade and their hoses at about 28k.It's well-meant but you might not want to get your shoes wet.