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Im sure it was the half marathon that scuppered your long run!! I took a gel at 10 and another at 15 for my 20 miler and it felt okay! But i suppose everyone is different.
I would only have 2 or possibly 3 gels on a training 20 miler.
My physio says that I can try a 1 mile run tomorrow so fingers crossed my leg is ok. Hopefully I can pick up the training again next week and catch up on my lost 2.5 weeks.
I just booked my train tickets from London to Edinburgh. The train up was ok, it let me book a seat but the train back wouldnt let me book, so I can imagine it will be chaos. On a positive note, I am not restricted by a certain train so I can just get on the first one back.. and probably have sit in the toilet!
Very much looking forward to running again. 2 weeks off has been awful.
Gaz, dont worry about the long run you didnt give yourself enough time to recover from the half mara.
Took me a week to recover properly from Stafford half a few weeks ago.
Keep it up it will be worth it ....trust me
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me? I'm not a London marathon runner any more thanks to that dog knocking me off my bike.
10 min run done today. I can move up to 30 mins on Sat. Not that many weeks ago, I was cruising at 20. Frustration...
Hi guys and gals
Just thought I'd stick my tenpenneth in. (Im 52 and never run a marathon before)
Planning to run my first 20 miler on sunday in training for Edinburgh and the sound of it scares me to death.
Already done 16, 17 and 18s - okish - but didnt believe I had too much left in the tank. Running them at 8.45ish pace when my aim is to break 4hrs. Maybe I should slow it down by 10 seconds a mile. Any advice greatly appreciated.
Now upping distance to 20 just seems taking it to a new level. Someone told me I should be aiming to do three 20 milers in the run-up to the big one. Does everyone agree or should I be thinking of doing a couple of 20s plus a 21 or 22.
Cheers, best of luck everyone
Roger I think that you really need to slow it down. My plan has long runs at between 30secs and 1 min slower per mile. If you want to break 4 hrs, you need to run at about 9mm pace? Well your long runs should be no faster than 9m30 if you ask me. If you run them all at race pace, you wont recover in time. Your shorter runs should be faster, longer ones slower.
My plan has 4x 20 milers but they are each 2 weeks apart (I cant do that any longer as I've been injured... long story)
Personally, I wouldn't train over 20 miles.
On transport - though the advertised bus stops are about 1 mile from the finish, back out on Pinkie Road (straight on through the astro football pitch, two minutes walk) you can pick up a 26 back to the city centre. They're every 20 minutes and it'll cost you £1.50. This is what I did after the half marathon last year.
Good luck to you all for the big day. I'm not ready for marathons quite yet but a couple of people mentioned the Rock 'n' Roll as part of training; I'm booked in for this, so I might see you there!
You are getting plenty of sold training in there Roger. Well done. Getting a run or two over 20 miles is useful, even just to know you can do it. Maximum of 22-23 miles is generally suggested.
Gary - I've been using the Kayano for many years now. Excellent shoe, but expensive!
I did my 28 last Thursday, then a 24 mile ski tour yesterday (11 hours on skis in the Cairngorms). Now taking it easy this week before next week's marathon.
Wohlf - Rock n' Roll should be good. I did it last year and was impressed. A tough course with several hills but great atmosphere and scenic route. Edinburgh marathon route is flatter but rather tedious by comparison.
If anyone want to join me around Edinburgh for some long training runs let me know. I've lost my running buddy (his marathon is this weekend in Paris) so looking for a fellow marathon trainee for my 16-20 milers.
I'm aiming for 4hr30 but probably going to be hitting the under 5hours marker. Did a 26k run this weekend in 2hr50 to give you an idea of my speed. Its my first marathon so my priority is finishing injury free.
Let me know if you're in need of a training companion.
Thanks ever so much for the advice PipG and Hillheader.
I managed 21 miles on Sunday in 8.52 pace which really pleased me. I tried running it at nearer 9 mins a mile but found it a struggle to keep my discipline to that pace. I recovered a lot quicker than when I ran 18 a couple of weeks earlier, which didn't make much sense. I think I could have actually run 26 there and then, hope that doesn't sound arrogant because it's not meant to and hope to goodness I havent peaked too soon which I'm now starting to worry about.
Running Blackpool half this sunday - my first competitive race - since i came last but one in my secondary school cross country aged 14. I'm running it with a pal and we are aiming for around 1hr 50.
Just one question if I run it hard over 13 which for me is around 8.20- 8.30 pace - could it be to the detriment of my marathon training and do more harm than good?
Hope everyone is staying injury free now the going is getting tough.
I'm new to this forum and after some advice please. Edinburgh will be my first marathon - I'm excited but nervous!
I'm struggling to know what pace to aim for; currently my runs fluctuate anything between a 8:45 mile average to 10:00+ mile average depending on what kind of running day I'm having. My last couple of half marathon races have been around the 2 hour mark.
I'm not aiming for any specific time, just to finish! But I'm concious I don't want to start out too fast. I have a Garmin to help monitor my pacing.
Any advice greatly appreciated, thank you!
Hi everyone just got back to the Midlands from competing in the Blackpool half today. Ran 1 hr 44 26 secs which was way better than I could have dreamed for. Conditions were as good as they could ever be for a run by the sea. Kept looking at the full marathon runners with awe later on in the morning and thinking hells bells this will be me in a few weeks time. Back to 20 miles next Sunday, next stop Edinburgh.
Slow reply, but for parking I'd maybe consider Edenhall Road or any of the others just off Pinkie Road for a quick get-away. Difficult to be sure when I don't drive, I don't know Musselburgh well, and road restrictions (in the name of a good cause!) may make everywhere a bit busier.
I've just noticed my bus no. 26 suggestion is very appropriate for you marathoners!
I wondered if anyone wanted to buy my place. I know the transfer window is closed but I'm still not able to run after a dog knocked me off my bike a few weeks ago (thanks dog). I also have train tickets London to Edinburgh sat to sun if anyone is interested?
Thanks Hillheader. Surprisingly I felt great. I set out to run 8.30 pace and yet started off at 8 mins a mile, got caught up in all the ballyhoo.
I was able to keep to about 8.05 until the last four miles when I put a spurt on and passed quite a lot of runners which gave me confidence. Though I still had energy left afterwards I couldnt have run 26 miles at that pace. I have to admit the conditions were ideal.
I then went out and did a seven miler on Tuesday and was knackered running at 8.30 - so maybe it took out more than I thought.
Back to a long 20 miler on Sunday and back to 8.50 pace. For once in my life got to be sensible.
Sorry to hear you wont be competing with us PipG.