P + D training for VLM 2013



  • 15West15West ✭✭✭

    AG - there are tentative signs that summer could be about to arrive...

  • literatinliteratin ✭✭✭

    Well, I think you all look very determined.

    AG, it's okay, we had the only sunny weekend already for London.

    And about form, I can tell when mine's shit (as at the end of vlm) because I hold my right shoulder way too far forward and my triceps rubs against my chest. No need to see photographic evidence. I have an attractive red patch there now just above my equally attractive giant trapeze bruises.

  • my foot always goes out to the side at the end of races. I hate it in photos. Makes me look kind of 'special'.

  • literatinliteratin ✭✭✭

    *goes back to vlm site to look for finish line photos of Chris*

  • I'm the same Chris, foot always goes out near the end, must be tiredness or maybe a weakness somewhere. 

  • Off to have a look!  I put a before and after photo on my FB page last night, to me they looked hugely different but people were quite kind.  Family are so polite aren't theyimage

  • 15West15West ✭✭✭

    yep - must see that...


  • 15West15West ✭✭✭

    see what you mean about looking 'special'.

  • literatinliteratin ✭✭✭

    Hmm. You seem to be doing a kind of Charleston action in one or two of yours too, 15W. image

  • 15West15West ✭✭✭

    right...over to Lit's now...

  • 15West15West ✭✭✭

    oh my god.

  • literatinliteratin ✭✭✭

    Yeah, okay, some people are devastatingly attractive in real life but just not that photogenic.

  • At least I dont have to worry about ballot or gfa I am in,image

    Both my sons have also entered today.

    P&D schedule for Abingdon starts 7 weeks from today.image I have bought 2 new pairs of good old faithful 2170s 

  • I'm devastatingly attractive in my mind lit. Just not while running and dribbling Spit. 

  • I don't think anyone ever looks great when running

  • 15West15West ✭✭✭

    Except Pamela Anderson.

  • Will you run with them NN or are they likely to be way off your pace, up or down?


  • Slow motion running could make Ann Widdecombe look shit hot running 15 - so I disagree, Pammy looks a boot running.  Her tits however look like they have good form.

  • ShazmoShazmo ✭✭✭

    Yes Ginger 3.39 was a PB of 20 minutes. Would be nice if there was a 20 minute improvement next time!!! 

    I've been crossing the Irish Sea so not had much chance to study my photos 11077....looks like I have some weird knee-knocking/leg twisting  going on on some of them. I do have a mild scoliosis of the spine so my legs and hips are an irregular length/height, so I have an excuseimage Oh, and I deffo need to purchase a better bra image Pammy need not worry about me stealing her job! 

  • JF50 if they get in my eldest will be targeting 3.15 while the youngest just wants to do it for the sake of it  although he potentially is the better  runner lacks the commitment .

    Anne Widdecombe handed me my medal at the finish of a local 10k last year , she lives round here somewhere I think, Pamela Anderson doesn't image

  • Shazmo I have mild scoliosis too of the spine!  I am sure it caused me my hip problems during my last two marathons. 

  • The thing is Pammy will still have gravity defying boobs at 60. 

  • She IS  60 image

    Fiona, how are the legs ? ready for another marathon next Sunday ?

  • There's a petition against the VLM GFA changes here:


    Even if you don't feel that strongly about it, consider signing it for me - the creator of the greatest marathon training thread in history!image


  • AL... all done just for you image and yes a brilliant thread .

  • Al, I hope they change the time for your sake but I don't think they will. When a race is so massively oversubscribed the organisers can just do what they want unfortunately.

    Im actually quite surprised the cost of the marathon is so cheap, If they doubled the cost of entry I'm sure people would still pay it.

    I can understand people being dissapointed but I don't really get the mass hysteria over it, if someone can run sub 3.10 then I'm sure 3.05 is doable with a bit more training, most of the people on other threads have already ran in London and are getting upset because they can't run it every year. They sound like spoilt kids. 

    I think 3.10 was a too easy target for 18-39 anyway, a GFA time should be something that takes years of hard work and dedication to reach. Id make it 3 hours at the very least and that would me out too.

  • literatinliteratin ✭✭✭

    Well, I will sign it just for you, Al, but I don't think it will make any difference to the organisers' decision, and it has loads of inaccurate statements in which probably doesn't help either.

    Mark, I actually don't think a GFA time should necessarily take years of hard work and dedication; I see it more as a way of recognising that there is a big gap in between the elite/championship part of the race and the mass race which is partly made up of people who'll only do a marathon once. So perhaps some years of moderately hard work would do!

  • mark1981 wrote (see)

    They sound like spoilt kids. 

    Take a general look around the Runner's World forum.

  • Thanks for signing guys. I agree I don't think it will make a difference but might as well try.

    And yes, it is a terribly worded petition... ("We are partitioning Virgin that...")

    Mark - the people who are most annoyed are those that purposely paced themselves for a 'safe' 3.09, having been assured by VLM HQ that the times woudn't change. I actually think 3.05 is a better benchmark for 18-39 but really feel sorry for those who had a master plan to sneak under GFA this time to go for a faster time in 2014.


  • 15West15West ✭✭✭

    I've already signed it. I think the main gripe is the timing...a few months ago and there wouldn't be so much complaining.

    They needed to make it fairer for people in their late 50s etc., infact could still be fairer really. I think GFA is a good idea overall...if you've trained hard and ran well I think you deserve a place. Seems a bit easier for women though...?

    Is it Milton Keynes this weekend Fiona?

    I went for a 6 easy mile run yesterday, no garmin, no music, and felt pretty good really. Nice to be running in some sunshine.


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