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Ziggy only a real man could get away with compression socks...a bit like crying and pink shirts !!
NP cold bath...sorry but come on..2 runs , shorts and a cold bath all on the same day ?
Well done all LTers. Procrastination means 11 wet and horribly blustery miles in shorts tonight in 1.30 . All felt good except my new shoes have put a couple of nails on death row.
NP - Just cold water? How deep and how long do you rough it out for?
15West I also wear shorts all year round, but then I also wear gloves most of the year as my hands are always cold - i get lots of abuse for that!
Doing my LT run with the club on Thursday so 13 miles MLR for me today. A loop up the back of Glasgow up high above the city, very picturesque but also very very windy. Unfortunately my muscle strain from last week was feeling a little tender again, need to keep an eye on that. Seriously considering ditching my MLR on Friday and swapping it for a cycle to work (if the weather allows it) to take the impact of my leg.
Good effort from everyone knocking out the LT runs today.
It's our streets bin pick up day tomorrow, i'm currently sitting listening to everyones bins getting blown down the street - I think it was a good choice to put ours out in the morning..
Mennania wrote (see)
NP - Just cold water? How deep and how long do you rough it out for?
yeah come on..?? there was half an hour between his posts ....nah surely not that long ?? !!!
Nice mileage Alan and great idea to wait and do the LT in company, so much easier as long as the pace is even, which if my club is anything to go by you got no chance !!
No Pain wrote (see)
Cold baths great for your legs trust me
Not so good for your other bits though.
Fill the bath so it's over your waist cold water only, get in and sit in it for 15 mins, cup of tea and a warm shower after, it will do your legs the world go good.
15 minutes!!! Good grief. Respect NP. I had a go once, not sure I lasted even a minute. I know definately supposed to help with recovery...but I'd rather concetrate on the refueling part.
Did the LT run.
7.04, 6.16, 6.31, 6.21, 6.30, 6.27, 7.36, 7.43, 7.55, 7.59. Did one mile warm up then the five fast followed by 4 slow. Struggled with the last two fast ones, GI issues, plus windy and had to stop for a train.
I have a cold bath after my Sunday long runs. Don't do 15 mins though..
Ha Ha 15W. I probably won't make it over the line if the way I felt at the end of tonight is anything to go by!
And Mennania, I know what you mean about the toes. My big one is definately ready to drop off. Should be interesting trying to run after it finally falls off!
Really impressive running again from everyone and some great LT sessions being belted out Surrey and Chris to name just 2.
I'm switching sessions this week also, did 5 rec last night and 14 this evening in 1h47. I prefer to do key LT sessions on a non work day so will do on Sat morning.
Lit hope the achilles behaves itself soon but best to build back slowly, still plenty of time.
Menn I've got a nail thats about to keep your 2 company on death row!
I've had to upsize on my latest purchases too. Not done anything remotely like this mileage before and my toes are suffering badly. Its not helped by the fact I have horrible curly toes that rub each other. I have however just ordered some of these which I am hoping will be my saviour. Anyone else unfortunate enough to have toes like me it may be worth a look - I can't believe I didnt know about them sooner!
15W - Do you just leave the nails come off naturally or do anything to help speed up the process? Not sure whether to just leave mine alone and wait for the inevitable or cut them off!
Chris don't force the nail off, leave it on as long as you can, the new nail will push it off when ready.
I'd not seen those socks before, will be intrested to see what you think.
Thanks Mark. I'll leave off the nail and let nature take its course. I'd not seen the socks before until someone told me. I have been putting cotton wool and toe seperators between my toes before every run up until now to keep them from rubbing where they cross over. So hopefully these socks will elimate the need to do that. I should save a fortune in cotton wool and toe seperators - which is lucky given the price of the bloody socks!
Haven't posted for a few days - still here but been busy! Have followed the 55-70 plan to the letter since the last post which meant the dreaded 10M w 5M @ LT pace last night in the wind & rain!!
Anyway managed to complete the session as follows; 7:38, 7:16, 7:23, 7:07, 6:18, 6:06, 6:16, 6:17, 6:21, 7:28 (plan was 4M 'gradual' acceleration, 5M @ LT then a 1M cooldown) so genarally happy that it went more or less according to plan - felt tired at the end though!
Great LT running from everybody yesterday - congrats to all!
14M @ 7:45 - 8:00 today then a recovery day tomorrow (lovely!)
Morning all, 4 mile recovery run for me this morning, on the treadmill for them by 5.15am, very pleasant and another episode of The Wire watched.
Some great LT runs by everybody yesterday. Agree with Go Caz on the wind, does make it difficult to achieve pace sometimes and certainly to maintain a steady pace. Mark F could be a good idea to shift some of those sessions to a time when you can really concentrate on them, it would allow me to run on some flatter stuff in the daylight rather than the long slopes in my town when I run in the dark.15w I think Manchester certainly has it's own microclimate, the subject of many a joke and comment.NP think most of us are back to shorts probably now, but cold baths? Have tried them and not sure it did anything. There seems to be some dispute to their value in some circles, I'll let them sort that out first. However I do often dip my feet and lower legs into a bucket of water when I get back from a long run to cool them off and it feels ok, think it is just as it creeps upwardsSR I am with you on the where to fit the fast stuff in, do it early and then relax for the rest of the run
Dave - well done on your LT run.
14 mi for me also, hopefully will be dry and sunny.
Dave - Great LT Run. Do you mind me asking what kind of time you are targetting? Do you have a Marathon PB? I still have no idea how my training paces will translate to goal Marathon time, so would be good to find out from others how their training paces relate.
There are some great LT sessions being done. Well done everyone.
I'm targeting the magic (for me anyway!) Sub 3hr barrier so all my training paces are based on a marathon race pace of 6:52 per mile
I ran 3:13:38 in April of last year at Milton Keynes in horrible weather (which qualified me for the 2013 VLM as I'm 48) - I know I can go faster though as I didn't train specifically for a time at that attempt (just to get round) and having run two sub 1:24 halfs in 2012 (as well as a half PB of 1:23:24 in 2011) I'm confident with the P & D 55/70 schedule I'll at least get close (that's the theory anyway!)
Good luck with the training - what time are you targeting btw?
Well done on all those fab (and fast) LT runs guys
15West wrote (see)
No Pain wrote (see) Cold baths great for your legs trust me
LOL . But 15 mins . Thanks but no thanks. I'm a wuss and prefer a hot bath!!Did my 12 mile MLR today. Yet more strong winds and rain but it was positively springlike out there with 9 degrees. TBH, I don't half mind the wind - it's the cold and the slippery conditions that do my head in. And I'd rather not have the cold spell come back. Did a progressive run starting at 9mm and finishing at 8mm.
Back from a very windy 14 miles. Hard it was. The strong headwind mixed with driving sleet reminded me of the Manchester marathon last year - good times!
Also - my headphones broke. Any recommendations?