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Gosh a lot of chat on here already this morning. I've been too busy running to post
NN - well done on the prize, I don't really see you as an old biddie!
First lot of intervals out of the way yesterday. 5x 800m with 400 m rest. Managed to keep all the intervals between 7:10 - 7:20 pace which is faster than my most recent 5k (a while ago but the heart rate stayed perfectly in the correct zone so very pleased. They were tough, but manageable.
mark - this is same puppy. We chose puppy back in January - but puppy stays with his mother till it's 8 weeks old; which is this sunday.
I might have to do my vo2 outside after talking to you lots!
JF50 wrote (see)
I tend to only run the recovery runs on the treadmill because I know I will run it slow...
I tend to only run the recovery runs on the treadmill because I know I will run it slow...
This is spot on. Easy to trance and listen to podcasts, and for some reason it never feels anywhere near as slow as it would outdoors.
This fast is getting faster in more ways than one..Godd running to all.
NN - Podiuming already! Congrats
just under 12 in just over 7.30mm last night and no hangover from Sunday. VO2 bits tonight will be done with the club on the track as best I can. The spreadsheet I am following says 9 with 6 x 800 as does my digi book. Another toe nail is hanging on by its fingertips...
NN: congrats on coming 3rd - nice surprise Well done all of you getting their intervals out of the way. My first lot is next week. 1200s The tit talk made me giggle
15West wrote (see)
Chris - I think that is expected. Talking of VO2 reps - I am in two minds whether to run the reps part (or even the whole run) on a treadmill, or try and run it outside. Outside obviously has benefits in that it's harder, need more control, outside conditions etc., but treadmill has advantage of being more accurate with pace/distance. What do people think?
Chris - I think that is expected. Talking of VO2 reps - I am in two minds whether to run the reps part (or even the whole run) on a treadmill, or try and run it outside. Outside obviously has benefits in that it's harder, need more control, outside conditions etc., but treadmill has advantage of being more accurate with pace/distance.
What do people think?
I always think treadmill running is cheating ... dunno, but the machine kind of dictates the pace for you. All you gotta do is stay on . I'm also worried about not hitting the correct pace because gym treadmills are notorious for being not properly calibrated. So you think you are going much faster than you actually are. That would kill me and my OCD . Mennania: now I'm having a disturbing picture of a desperate toenail with tiny hands and fingers in my mind
Recovery day for me (and boy do I need it). Double day - 6am, 4pm but as usually I'm making up my own schedule and do 5 / 5. It fits better with my lunch break.
Tis strange with treadmills that people don't see them as running, set up with a bit of gradient and at the right speeds you can still push your heart rate up, in fact using heart rate is perhaps the way of getting round the calibration problem, though of course if you know how you can calibrate them.
Nobody ever thinks a workout on a turbo is not cycling, a Concept 2 isn't rowing!
HeOw, lucky it's a recovery day or your nose would be running
JF50: If you saw me on a Concept you'll never say I was rowing .
Chick, I bet nobody tells you to get off it and find a proper boat
Fiona...Tough but manageable.. perfect way to describe VO2 sessions, once they become unmanageable we are going too fast and wont handle subsequent sessions, that why I stayed away from club track session this week it always get so competitive and as hard as I try to do my own thing we always end up sprinting the last 200 with lungs burning and tasting blood then I feel sh** the next day.
Treadmills have there place and are grreat f there is no alternative and done on .5-1 % incline makes up for lack of wind resistance, and as JF50 says just use the old heart rate monitor to judge effort if in doubt..but I do find it boring and miles see to take for ever to tick away
HeOw yes get out and do the 20..anything is better than a 5 am start..glad you were well enough to do the 12, you were obvioulsy just overtired from racing .
Rest day for me, no choice really, picked the youngest grandson up at 8 and got him till 6.30 then off to work..no one else and I mean no one else except him is allowed to stop me running..
No running again for me today. Lower part of shins felt a bit tender again this morning, so i decided to take another day of rest (albeit i'm cycling to and from work as usual, but that's only 5 miles each way). I'm hoping that i'll be much better tomorrow and will have avoided causing further damage.
Bah. I'm still at work and I haven't been for my run yet and now it's DARK. Think I will just go for a nice gentle 6-mile recovery run along the river with my torch.
AG, be careful; hope it's just a residual ache from the massage/physio.
12m MLR done and dusted. How cold was that frickin' wind? I should have gone a bit slower in my earlier miles, but it was too damn cold to be going slow! I hope the wind has gone before Saturday in time for my longest run of the schedule.
HeOw - you probably mean Ingrid Kristiansen (Norwegian) who set the (then) world record 2:21:06 in the 1985 London Marathon after doing most of her workouts on the treadmill. [Just call me "Statto"]
Mind you, it was only the London Marathon - which everybody knows is flatter than the flattest treadmill Brighton, on the other hand.....
Ten - yep, that's the one who I meant! So, treadmill works then - like I said, I think people tend to run outside for the love of running, treadmill is just there as a necessity, my friend uses hers when it is too hot to run outside (she lives in Perth) and I will utilise gym one in the summer if same happens here but how often do we have a bloody summer...?!
Thanks NP - I may do 22 if I feel good...! Channel my inner fire"fighter".
I have set up my first JustGiving page up today - what a fooking faff that was. I am raising funds for Cystic Fibrosis Adult Centre in Wythenshawe Hospital, I was asked by a fellow Helsby RC runner if I would take her place (she is a physio and does a lot of work for them) as she is injured, I felt I should, it takes nothing really to do yer bit for Charidee. If anyone wants to donate... here's my link! (shameless!)
Well, if it's good enough for NP it's certainly good enough for me! Think my VO2 reps will be on a treadmill tomorrow (might run 4 miles outside beforehand).
Ahhh...HeOw = Helen Owens makes note in stalker notebook
Ha, 15West, you're a total amateur stalker compared to me and NN, we knew that already!
I do my speedwork outside as I'm lucky enough to live near lots of waterways with flat, straight paths alongside. I was totally unenthusiastic about running this evening, as I'd been at work for 10 hours and it was bloody cold on my cycle home. But it was actually gorgeous outside doing a nice easy pace. In the off-road bit everything was totally still and deserted, and I didn't see anyone except a heron.
And HeOw - oh, go on then, just because we finally got to see a picture. *gets stalker scrapbook out*
Literatin - is that "Katie" you who has donated? If so, thank you so so much! If not, you mingebag...
Edit: 15West - thank you also! Helping fellow Mancs! You are both superstars. Very touched.
Might have been... though I might just be saying that to avoid looking like a mingebag.
Morning all, shifted Saturday again to this morning. Saturdays are a problem for me, often a working day and when I get a free one we try to make the most of it, though shopping at Bluewater tomorrow may not seem like that!
Out of the door at 5.20am for my 8 miler with 8x100m strides, still bloomin cold here but nice and dry. Did the strides at about mile 6 when I was in an industrial estate with a nice straight, flat bit of road, 4 street lights for each and jog back, amused a couple of people out of one of the units having a fag!
Recovery week this one so just a short 14 mile run for Sunday, bliss.
HeOw, I thought you were going to do 20 today? Probably not a good idea if coughing, so you probably right to take it easier. I do love how 10 miles is considered an "easy" run when in the midst of the schedules - most people never run that far per week!
Ten, I know what you mean about the weather, 12m MLR was great until I turned into the wind - my nose and top lip were numb for a few miles
Go Caz, well done on completing it too.
NP, Every time I see you splits they amaze me! I'd love to be able to run as fast as you over just a mile, never mind the distance you cover.
Lit, do you cycle far in your commute? Just concidentally, I saw a few of my colleagues cycling on the way in this morning and I was glad I'd stopped doing it as I don't think I could do it on top of the P&D training.
Well done to everyone on the icy cold 12-milers. I'm annoyed about the cold because there's only a bloody forecast for snow this weekend. Should have gone for Brighton half last weekend rather than Tunbridge Wells this Sunday.
Stutyr, no, it's only about a mile and a half up the road. I'm not a 'proper' cyclist, I have a 3-speed with a big wicker basket! But I don't drive, so e.g. I have to cycle the 5.5 miles to get to my weekly pilates twatfest. I don't do massive long bike rides on top of the P&D though.
HeOw - take it easy. Ok to run with a cough as long as stays above chest.
Surely this is the last blast of cold of the winter....surely....
I cycle into work - when I bother going in anyway! Only live 4 miles away though so a good distance; and I actually think it helps with recovery a bit as gets blood circulating round those legs. Cycling home after a tough lunchtime session not easy though.
Got my 6x800 VO2 intervals today...still undecided where to do them. I will start running outside and if coast is clear on part of my route I'll attempt them outside, otherwise I'll head to gym and do them there. I work opposite a gym which I am a member of; but mainly just use it for its changing rooms and shower.