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Hi ksizzlepod......that's a good question, and one that I was going to be asking!!!!.....also carrying your own water...!!??.....
I use a hydration belt...but it only has one pocket for everything, and then pouches for water bottles.....i stuffed all my gels into the pouch for a water bottle and had my jelly babies and music IPod thing in the main pouch.....but my friends laughed at me i seemed to have so much stuff!!!!!....I have tried various belts..............I have found the most comfortable ones are the thicker more substantial ones that sit on your waist and you can tighten them so they cant move.....but you do need to practice with them.... the first one I had, had a woodland burial!!!.....But I really think it is trail and error.......I'm struggling to find a belt that has everything I need.....I'm thinking about just adapting one I have.....
I also cant decided whether to bring my own bottle of water...just in case!!!.....I don't like the idea of only being able to have a drink when I'm told I can.....what if I want a gel and there is no water station for a while!!???.....I found on my recent half marathon and the race on Sunday....the water stations were really busy and a few times I just ran past and didn't bother.....oOOOOOO all these decisions!!!!......
I don't know where else you could carry your gels etc if round your waist isn't an option!!!.....I hope someone else has a cunning plan!!!!.....have you tried a hydration vest???....
Congratulations on completing 20 miles - a massively long way, whatever pace you do it at!
One piece of advice that I got from an experienced marathoner was; when you get to the race venue, join the queue for the loo. When you have been, rejoin the back of the queue, shuffle to the front and go again. Keep circling in the loo queue until the race starts.
I tried that on my 20 mile Spitfire and it worked for me!
Im with cat.on.mat with this one, go as much as you can before a race, even if its just nerves making you go......it is in my case haha. Went 3 times before the start of GNR and even then needed to go again less than 3 miles in, ooops maybe too much water sipping through nerves too.
On training runs I have stopped taking water with me recently, just make sure im fully hydrated before I leave and have a pint of cordial waiting for me (made up before I leave) when I get back.
At my previous halves I usually take water with me at the start in a plastic bottle so I can just throw it if needs be. Then take water from every station, even if I dont need it so I carry it till then next one then replace it. Not the most economical way I guess but I do then always have water, which when it comes to Mara training you need for the gels.
I did read on a thread somewhere else that someone sellotaped his gels to his water bottle, not sure how well this works, could be a worth a shot to trial!
I usually take my phone in an arm band with a single key in the back of it, or in the tiny pocket in the back of my running shorts. Neither of which are big enough for multiple gels plus phone and keys .
I have tried a running belt in the past but it just annoyed me so much during a run that I dumped it in a bin half way round my training run, ooops.
I may have to position friends/family on route to hand out gels haha.
Hi Mel, I'm here have been keeping an eye and don't want to comment if all going well!!
Yes has she been doing more running with you? Try the Thomas stetch with her over the edge of the bed and see how tight that is. If that doesn't help then defo see your magical lady!!
Hope that helps and keep up the great work
melaniejayne wrote (see)
Hi Ruth.....I'm a very slow runner you know....so it could be 30 hours!!!!!...........having used the jelly babies and gels on Sunday...I couldn't take a jelly baby every mile as I would feel sick!!!!......so just every now and again will be my plan....along side gels.....who would have thought I would actually grow to like gels!!!! Thank you for the pizza advice although it does make me feel a little sad!!! What the total carb intake in an hour again???? And can you believe 2 wees on Sunday!!!! ...and I actually needed to go....it wasn't just a thought!!!!.....really....does my bladder NOT understand!!!!.....I had my tea and 200mls at 7am......race was at 9.30....and I went for a wee before the start at 9am.....I think I'm going to insert a catheter...!!!!...........
Hi Ruth.....I'm a very slow runner you know....so it could be 30 hours!!!!!...........having used the jelly babies and gels on Sunday...I couldn't take a jelly baby every mile as I would feel sick!!!!......so just every now and again will be my plan....along side gels.....who would have thought I would actually grow to like gels!!!!
Thank you for the pizza advice although it does make me feel a little sad!!!
What the total carb intake in an hour again????
And can you believe 2 wees on Sunday!!!! ...and I actually needed to go....it wasn't just a thought!!!!.....really....does my bladder NOT understand!!!!.....I had my tea and 200mls at 7am......race was at 9.30....and I went for a wee before the start at 9am.....I think I'm going to insert a catheter...!!!!...........
Don't worry about the weeing, I honestly think you will be fine in Paris. I am not a big fan of carrying your water bottles as feel you will have enough opportunities to drink and you may end up drinking for the sake of drinking BUT this is you race and you MUST do what you feel comfortable doing.
You like gels!! Wow did not think I would ever hear that!
Have now booked the Friday restaurant so here are details for interest:
Al Caratello, 5 rue Audran 75018, 2-3 minute walk from hotel.
Feel free to have a look at reviews:
No specific menu organized so will have to choose from menu.
You are doing great!
Hello Mel! A very entertaining catch-up read! Disappointed to see that my post - from the car - saying "HELLO MEL, we're just going past Arundel now and I'm waving!" did not come out Told you I was a Luddite!
I second Ruth on the 'not carrying your own bottle' conundrum. You honestly don't need it on a big city marathon as there are plenty of water stations. But also agree that if you feel you want it, like a security blanket, then you should take it. Take one you can chuck if you get sick of carrying it though.
As for the how to carry stuff question - I too find this a real bind despite years of running. I find that I'm much better off with a Camelbak (or any sort of rucksack) than with anyting round my waist. A good fitting rucksack just disappears and you pretty much forget it's there. I wore mine for The Grizzly last weekend - 20 miles off road - and it was great. Plus I can store gels in the side pockets and reach them without taking it off. I had a good system going: left hand reaches back for gel from left pocket, right hand puts discarded wrapper into right hand pocket!
For shorter runs though, it's a bit superfluous and I'd then carry a handheld bottle if I need fluid, and put gels in the pocket of my gilet. Running clothing without pockets is a real bugbear of mine I think it encourages women to run wihtout a personal safety alarm, for example, as nowhere to stow it.
Really looking forward to Paris now but very worried about poor Steve as the clock is ticking. Will be catching up with him shortly.
Wish you all well with your training this weekend
Oh well none of that helped on my gel/hydration saga...only that when I'm poor I'm going foraging in bushes so I can sell slightly used hydration belts on eBay!!!.....
I'm not sure I want to go for the builders bum look .....so I think I'm just going to go with PC 91 idea and have a personal pacer!!!....You up for it Sam???....Youll be bored just standing around waiting for us for hours!!!!.........and that optimistically includes Steve!!!!!!
The weeks are ticking away so here we go.....
Monday – rest
Tuesday – 1 ½ hour cross train…..Out on the bike…..managed to get all my chores done and get an hour and a half of cross training in!!!....
Wednesday – 6 mile run (1 mile easy, 1 mile Steady, 3 miles fast, 1 mile easy)
Love it when a plan comes together……ran two miles to running club…then they were doing 3 mile speed session……then a mile warm down…..lovely!!!!!...good work out and a good catch up!!!.....
6 miles Time - 52.3 Average pace 8.51
Thursday – rest
Friday – Speed session…..grrrrr…..New trainer problems!!!!.....I tried talking nicely to my new shoes….I even had a stern word with them, but no, the trainers did not want to play with my feet…..so home I hobbled!!!.....not even a sniff of a run!!!..well a few miles peppered with lace playing ......by the time I got home it was too dark and too late to go back out!!!....and I was a little too grumpy too truth be told!!!!......I don't grrrrr very often......normally over my bladder...!!
Saturday – rest
Should have been a rest, but due to work commitments tomorrow and a 13 hour shift tomorrow, I did my 14 miler today…..run went well…..although pain in left arch by 9 miles….it gradually was getting worse!!.....I was very sad by the time I got home!!!....
Hobbled for the rest of the afternoon and contacted Sarah physio…..
Massage, Ice, Ibuprofen, wiggle my toes and try to imagine my foot as a bridge!!....hopefully my foot has just had a recent battering due to trying a couple of pairs of new trainers....ignoring the right knee pain at the moment in the hope by tomorrow morning it will be gone…..I am feeling like and old crock!!!.....I have a chafing armpit too!!!!.....Help!!!!....I don't know what to try for a manky armpit!!!!.....( I love this running thing.....makes you feel really beautiful!!!!)
14 miles Time 2.21 Average pace - 10.04
Sunday 14 miles: 9 miles @ 10.20 – 10.30 . 5 miles @ 9.50 – 10 Actual- rest!!
....should have been trying to rest my foot and knee, but real life is not going to allow that…..however not so bad…..foot feels tender, and the knee seems about the same….pleased I'm not running on it today!!.....
Rest day again tomorrow, so hopefully by Tuesday the fairys would have worked their magic and I will be all better!!!!......
oooppp...Missed a run....
Tuesday - Along side 1 hour 1/2 on the bike...also managed 4.2 miles.....pootle about......Time 37.53........Average pace 9......I love days off and sunshine!!!!.....
Mel - can you let me know if there is anything you are concerned about (other than weeing and I do believe once you start running in Paris you will be fine). Your plan prior to marathon is to eat as normal but increase supper snack on the Thursday & Saturday (add some bread & jam or bowl of cereal) and have small carb based snacks grazing throughout the day (from cereal bars, jelly sweets, fruit based smoothies or milkshakes) so that you are eating 3 main meals and 3 snack each day on Thursday, Friday & Saturday. What do you think you might want to eat the evening before race at restaurant?
Oh Mel, what's going on with that foot and knee? Honestly, I turn my back for one minute and there you go picking up niggles left right and centre!
It does sound as if it could be shoe-related. Stick to what you know if you suspect any problems caused by footwear. Keep up the ice and make sure you stretch the toe extensors. You do this by gently pressing the top surface of your foot on a soft surface (carpet) . ie. you are bending your foot, toes curling under. Hpoe this makes sense!
As for chafing - my best suggestion for a remedy is a bit pricey but it blooming works - it's by cycle brand ASSOS and it's called Cycle Repair - it's a gel and it works wonders keep me posted on the foot and knee please!
Hi Mel - you must be starting taper very soon and once your little niggles clear up (which will be very soon) you will be raring to go in Paris.
I hope you enjoy the whole experience no matter what the outcome and please remember why you are running.
All the best for Paris and i look forward to reading all about it on here after.
Hope all settling again Mel. Back to the good old shoes and hopefully all will settle very quickly.
What were they both like walking around today? When did the knee come on? was that after the trainer saga tto or has that been grumbling for a while? Make sure you stretch out your hip flexors go back to the good old Thomas stretch over the edge of the table. have you another massage booked in? Good time to have one as you are now starting your wind down period. Keep me posted.
Mel - I get the same feelings when i cuddle my newborn gran kids (7 and 4 months) cos Linda didn't get to see them but what comforts is something along the lines of the saying "don't be sad i've gone, be glad i was there" - rejoicing in the good times and memories is very warming and helps the "getting on with living a full life" which is what they would have wanted, nay, insisted we do - sorry for getting a bit deep (especially since i haven't posted for ages)
Getting excited about things is key and its fantastic you are doing Paris
Your toe etc WILL heal and get better and you WILL be ready for Paris - these are minor trials - you won't lose fitness if you don't run another mile before Paris
Anyway, your heart will get you through Paris
Hi Mel, I'm sorry to read that you are having some foot and knees pains. Hopefully, the enforced rest will help and it will surely help your body recover after all the great training you have done over the last few months. Your story is so inspirational that even with my fears of getting around the 26 miles I think I will have a lot to ponder on the streets of Paris. Hopefully our paths will cross on the day but if not I have no doubt you will conquer this challenge and have inspired lots of us on the forum to keep going.
Oscarr - you have made me cry.
Mel - at least you have the hard work already done and just need to maintain so try and keep smiling!
RUTH MCKEAN wrote (see)
Oscarr - you have made me cry.
what a week you are having. While your toe is sore have you seen your lovely sports massage lady as a great time to iron out all those niggles especially into your back which is probably holding your hip flexor and quad tight causing the knee pain. Also walking funny with your toes won't have helped. Has the arch settled down now? Don't panic!!
PC91! Thanks so much for offer - l will let you know if need some back up!
Though the below might be useful information/reminders.
Race day: You should still drink little and often before the start but be careful about drinking too much because of nerves. If have dry mouth just wet your mouth with your drink to avoid an early pit stop but The race eating strategies do not need to be complicated but the foods or fluid must be tried and tested prior to event.
Post race – although you are not eating to refuel for next run you will feel better the next day and protect immunity if you try and eat some carbs & protein as soon as you can. After race rehydrate also – 500ml as soon as you can can then sip for rest of day of fluid. If struggle to eat after race try sipping on a fluid with some carbohydrates in it such as a milkshake/smoothie/ice cream or a sports drink or cut food into small portions for example quarter a sandwich and just nibble on a quarter at a time (when no appetite large amounts of food can seem daunting so best to present yourself with small manageable amounts).
Here are some useful snacks with estimated carbohydrate content that you can buy or travel with easily:
Hi Mel - sorry to hear about the toe/knee issues. I had a similar issue earlier in my training when I got an infected toe and tried to carry on and my uneven gait caused my knee to strain a little. I'm hoping your situation is indentical. i only missed a couple of days whilst the toe settled and then I found myself running normally again and the knee returned to normal.
You've trained brilliantly so a few days off here won't hurt especially since you are in the taper. The general niggles will soon recover.
Two weeks to go - can't wait to see how things go in Paris. I know you will have an amazing day and an amazing performance and your girls will be so proud of you.
You have the whole RW forum world willing you on!