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A sensible Choice teknik
I am shattered. I think the miles are catching up on me. A cut back week this week I think and a few early nights I am probably ditching the weekend race I had planned and will turn that into a long run most probably. I have a 10k and a 1/2 that I plan to race before the big day and thing a low mileage week with a long run at the end will do me more benefit at this tage of training !!
Yes - I am Going for a sub 3:30 in Brighton. The GFA thing is currently a dream - but we all need dreams and my thoughts are if I shoot for the stars in Autumn I might reach a hgher brnach on the tree I am climbing
Lot of great running yesterday!
Jason - That pace for an LSR is crazy!
AGF - Great mileage
Tek - Great mileage too! Sounds like a sensible choice this morning
Stewart - Well done
NP - Well done on the 20
Mace - Good running
OH - Well done on the XC
NN - Nice run! Shame about the 0.1!
12.6 miles for me at 9.13 ave. Felt crap for the 1st 8, then felt fantastic for the rest. Strange...
Anyway, I'm now seriously considering running Lochaber on April 14. Assuming I just pile up a lot of slow miles for the next 11 weeks, then take a 2 week taper is their any reason I shouldn't do this?
I know I'll not set a good time (still expect a comfortable PB!) but getting round in one piece would boost the confident no end for September.
Go for it stuart. Lost of mileage - nice and slow to avoid injury will set you up no end for the autumn ( assuming you take a couple/few of weeks off to recover/refresh )
Sounds a reasonable plan Stuart - Lochaber (mara) is flat too
Stuart there are some 12 weeks plans so it isnt out of the question if you have already got a few decent longish runs in the bag..and you will have plenty of time to recover before starting training for the autumn marathon.I always feel better after a good few miles too ...weird..guess its all about warming up.
No snow here..just more rain !!
Rest day for me , good job really been waiting all morning for a bloody phone call which I probably wont get dont you just hate it when they say the computers are down and they will ring you back then off to work at 2 so wont even have time for my monday swim..
AGF- Enjoy the cutback
Tek- wise choice- don't go getting youself crocked again!
SM6- Do It!
NN- Hope you enjoyed the day off and the phone rang!
MG1- Can't you take your kit with you?
Nothing to report here- no snow or other dramas, just 2 recovery runs
Great long run yesterday NN. Shame you missed your swim.
Good decisions there AGF and Teknik. AGF go for it at Brighton, no reason not to.
Stuart lots of time to train for a nice relaxed Lochaber.
MG1 hope you can pack the gear for a quick run when away.
jason nice to get the recovery runs in.
A recovery 4m for me this morning. Started to snow here, not much lying but slippy so a treadmill run tonight; 20 lots of 200m with 30s recoveries. 10 at 16k/hr, then the next 10 a mix up to 17k/hr. Great fun, 5 miles total.
Slight bit of advice needed if possible:
So I'm training for London 2013, I'm using an ultimate marathon schedule found here in RW and it's been great so far. I'm on the fourth week now and my legs are feeling very tired. Its been an intense first 4 weeks, running 6 days a week and last weeks milage reached 46.
I started running at the beginning of 2012 but after a 10k race in september i stopped pretty much altogether and only just took it up again a week before i started the marathon schedule. So I didn't start with the recommended milage you should be hitting regularly.
So I've managed to keep to all the paces it's told me to and i've done all the distances it said but yesterday was my longest run of 15 miles and today my legs feel very tired, I did the 4 miles today as well but pretty much only just made it to the end before my legs collapsed.
Now, I don't mind feeling like this if it just means it's working... but does it sound like I'm doing a little bit too much and should maybe cut back on the schedule for the next week to properly recover?
I'm not getting pain as i run, just a slight all over ache. The ache is only as i run but throughout the day they just feel tired. And this has been the general feeling of my legs for the last week and a half I would say.
What should I do?
Thanks for any suggesstions
Well done on everyone's training & to those who've been running outside.
Yesterday was really cold so I did the sensible thing & stopped inside & had to scrap about 1cm of snow off the car this morning.
Virex - I'm guessing you've picked the sub 3:15 Plan? Can I ask what was your 10k time in September?
not good jason
Virex, i'm guessing you've got age on your side as that's a decent 10k time for somebody who has just taken up running.
What sort of mileage were you doing up to your 10k ?
I tend to agree with AGF and you don't have enough base/endurance - 3 months off for a relative newbie and you're jumping into a plan and hitting decent mileage already. Too much too soon ?
Tek - wise man !!
Lots of great training going on yesterday Fiona your intervals where very good after my swim 54x25m front crawl I had a CBA day...
Jason nice ice running same here this morning so I ran on the road.
Virex can I ask whats your age and what is the longest run you have ever done? Your 10k time suggests 3:15 but if you havn't run further than 10 miles in the past you wont have enough endurance in your legs, but by running the 6 days a week and building the miles in this phase your building your endurance base, we all get tierd during this time its natural but it will improve over the next couple of months but dont be afraid to miss a day and take a days rest.
First of two runs done today 7 miles off footpath due to ice.
AGF - sensible decision re: cutting back. Hope a few early nights will do you good. Dubai sounds like a mini-taper for Silverstone...
Stuart nice 12.6m. I agree with OH and the others - do a slow, sensible, even-paced Lochaber and you'll be a good place for Nessie.
NN hope you enjoyed the rest
MG nice easy 3m
Jason - not good!! Hope you can get out this evening
Fiona great treddie intervals
HM stay warm
Stewart well done on the 5 miles
Mace - thanks. Are you still doing Hadd subLT's or are you now fully P&D?
NP nice start to the day
Work getting in the way here so just a 5 miler off-road this morning at sub70%max. Snow but no ice
Virex I agree with AGF, Mace and NP. That's a quick 10k time but I see from your profile you've been running less than 20 miles a week, so endurance is going to be an issue.
Take a day or two off. You might want to ditch the intervals for a while (and replace them with some slow easy miles). Maybe dial all the paces back by 20 to 30 secs per mile, and re-assess after you've done one of the Half races in the plan...2.29x your half is the male first-timer average...
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Virex I agree with AGF, Mace and NP. That's a quick 10k time but I see from your profile you've been running less than 20 miles a week, so endurance is going to be an issue. Take a day or two off. You might want to ditch the intervals for a while (and replace them with some slow easy miles). Maybe dial all the paces back by 20 to 30 secs per mile, and re-assess after you've done one of the Half races in the plan...2.29x your half is the male first-timer average...
Doh, why didn't i think of looking at his profile ... i said you was a wise man Tek
Fully P&D now mate. Will definitely be going back to HADD though. I was thinking during this morning's run in the pissing rain and freezing cold wind, how i'm looking forward to doing some nice 70% Sunday morning HADD runs along the seafront in the summer
Well done. I bet the dog was pleased with that.
I intend to! You guys know what I'm like with cold weather.
Hi & welcome to the thread.
Well done everyone that managed to get out on the roads..as for Fiona..that is a mental session on the treadmill..brilliant
Mace..ahhh those were the days eh?? I shall be back to a bit of hadding myself after VLM
No snow here, just a bit icy this morning that soon thawed though and had a bit of light rain while running...bloody cold though..
9 Miles with middle 4 @ LT 7.40..7.35..7..34..7,37
11 miles including the icy muddy trail up our little local hill. Blue skies and bright sun. No snow. Jacket left at home
Well done to all those struugling to get out with the weather
4.6 miles for me tonight. Bloody freezing out there. Rest day tomorrow.
Decided I'm going to sign up for Lochaber after I get paid at the end of the week.
Virex a couple of years ago I trained with a guy who was in his early 20's who had a far faster 10k pb than me (I was about 48 years old at the time and was doing 3:11 in the marathon) every week he did the long run but never backed it up during the week with a few very easy runs and a tempo/speed session the reason was he said his legs where tierd. Marathon running and training is very diffrent from 5 and 10k training/racing 90% of it is mental, this will come over time and also as you get older. Where you are busted after a 10k because you push through whilst the lactate builds up and your lungs hurt, where as with a marathon its a grind and a journey and in two half, the first half is up to 20 miles and the second half from 20 miles up to the finish line. You have to be able to run the last 6.2 miles on tierd legs otherwise you will just want to stop and walk. I think most people on here would agree that at some stage during there first or second marathon that they have wanted to walk or in fact have walked. So how did they over come this the next time? Well its my guess that they did more miles in training and more longer runs which at some time ment having to run on tierd legs. If you have to take a day off take a day off if you have to run a faster training run slower run it slower
Teknik nice off road run.
NN Well done on your LT 9 mile run great pace.
OH Well done on your 11 on the muddy trail.
SM6 Well done on your 4.6 miles, yep it's cold out.
Jason see some idiot ran over 3000 miles in 58 mins to take top spot gggrrrrr
Second 7 mile run done as a progressive run.