Good multi-terrain trainers

Hi

I've been doing a few races where the terrain has been a mixture of mud, trails and concrete paths. But I've been struggling with finding the best shoes to wear. 

I've worn 'waffles' a couple of times, which are great for mud and trails but pretty hopeless for concrete.

I don't like most 'off-roaders' that I have tried - often too heavy and not good for racing.

Any thoughts ?

 

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  • Sorry for the ignorance but what are 'waffles'??

  • Don't be sorry ! Its probably just a local name that a few of us use !

    Waffles are the pimple-type rubber-studded trainers - made by Salomon and New Balance, among others.

    Like these : http://www.gooutdoors.co.uk/salomon-speedcross-3-running-shoes-p187851

  • lots of choice from inov-8, their website is great too at telling you what surfaces each shoe is good for, ratings out of 5 for hard/loose/soft, loads of choice in heel drop/cushion etc.

  • Ah i see! image
    i had some of those, bit 'squiggly' on tarmac.
    now i have these
    http://www.inov-8.com/new/global/Product-View-Trailroc-245.html

    they are great all rounders. Not quite as grippy as the salomons, but not far behind enough to really notice, very good on mud, and so much better on tarmac and hard trail. I did the endurance life coastal dorset 10k in them, and they coped with mud, wet grass, hard chalk trails, tarmac with no problems.
    Also comfortable, like grippy slippers!

  • these look like they score high in all catagories, worth a look

    http://www.inov-8.com/New/Global/Product-View-Roclite-275-GTX.html?L=26

  • If you can find any left in your size the Adidas Adizero XT3s a fantastic mixed terrain shoe...

    http://images.sportsshoes.com/product/A/ADI4680/ADI4680_400_3.jpg

     

  • Thanks for those suggestions.

    All look good options. And those TrailRocs are super light - 245g !

  • With the Trailrocs, there are three options: 255, 245, 235. The weight, cushioning and heel-toe drop go down with the numbers. 255 and 245 have a rock plate, 235 doesn't. I have the 235 ready for Lakeland 50, but I'm used to running in minimalist shoes (VivoBarefoot Neos). If you're more used to shoes with more cushioning and mre of a heel-toe drop you'll want the 245 or 255. But they're great shoes.

  • If you are looking at Inov-8 shoes it is worth checking on the rubber compund on the sole. The ones shown as sticky rubber have more grip on slippy surfaces such as bare rock, wooden boardwalks and tree roots. The trade off is they wear out quicker.

    I love my Roclite 295s and they really inspire confidence, I would rather replace them more often than end up in the river like I almost did when I went head over heels in my old shoes.

  • Thanks for more suggestions.

    HRHB (great name BTW image) thanks for pointing out about the rubber compound. Sounds like I need to visit an actual running shop and feel the grip before committing myself.
    Or pester runners I meet to have a look at their soles (not souls !) ........

     

  • On the Inov-8 website all their shoes have detailed descriptions and it states the compund there. 

    Another thing that splits people is whether to go for goretex type linings or not. The argument against is that water will get in over the top at some point anyway, but with goretex linings it won't drain away so you end up with a shoes full of water.

     

  • I have the trailroc's 255 and they are good, although my first trail shoe so not much background to go on. I'm also looking at getting some Brooks Cascadia or Salomon Crossmax but not which is the best for multi terrain. I suppose Scott Jurek has helped develop the Brooks Cascadia and he aint a half bad runner off round image

  • I think he developed the Brooks Pure range.

  • Ahh, he was crap anyway image 

  • Wow, brooks website says the puregrit is expected to last only 250-300 miles !!!!!!!!

    Counts them right out...Anyone tried the Cascadias ?

  • Interesting. I usually change mine at that useage anyway, but where does it say that?

  • I used to wear cascadia -comfortable but heavy. I used to get blisters on back of heel but to be fair that was version 3

  • Brooks website, clicked on puregrit 2 and then under description it describes how they are tested to the top standards but as a minamilist shoe thats the life span they expect. To many shoes out there to choose from. If I was to be honest, if my trailroc's didnt feel short then I would just use them for everything

  • I only got 230m out of my first pair of pure grits but it wasn't that they were worn out it was just that during one race they randomly rubbed my foot so I didn't want to wear them again! I probably could have used them for shorter distances! I do have another pair though on 60m which are fine!!! image

  • I wear inov8 Terrafly 313 GTX

    These are actually for both on and off road, Extremely comfy, Great grip and very light.

    Good luck

  • Paul Gardner:I expect to get WAY longer than that out of my minimalist shoes (VivoBarefoot Neos).

  • If you look on the brooks website you can test a pair of their pure range shoes for a week free of charge!

  • I never new the Pure range had an expected 250-300 miles worth of use. I got 370 out of my first pair and the uppers were perfect. I suspect it's the outsole that doen't last. I have compared an old pair with a newish pair and I would say the rubber gets alittle more spongy with age. I usually change around 280 miles so it's no big deal for me. I've done 2 marathons in the Pure Cadence and have decided to by 2 more for stock whilst they're cheap and available now version 2 is out.

  • Tx for all the suggestions.
    I was very tempted by the Inov-8 Trailrocs but felt they were just a bit too similar to my current New Balance 'waffles'

     In the end I opted for Merrell Mix Masters. Looks like this weekend's snow might be an ideal tiem to test them out image

  • good choice image

  • Ohhhhhhhhh Mix Masters, you must let us know how you get on with them..

     

  • I'm with the bloke that said adizero xt3's. Great multi terrain shoe. I've done 2000 miles in mine, never lose grip, 90% trail, all weathers plus I've raced on Tarmac in them with no probs. if you just want one pair of shoes I'd recommend them as a great all rounder.
  • There's a bit of negavity sometimes towards trail shoes made by the major road shoe manufacturers, but having tried a fair few Salomons, Inov8s etc, I have settled on Saucony Peregrine's for mainly trail/bit of road and Asics Fuji Attack for runs where there is more than 25% road. I find both to be excellent.

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