Paris Marathon 2015

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  • The JimbobThe Jimbob ✭✭✭
    List Fairy please put me down for Ickenahm 5 on 7th June and the Cityrace 5k on 9th July
  • List Fairy - please put me down tentatively as having completed the VLM Overseas ballot entry... actually, wait until October's done hey!

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  • thisisnattythisisnatty ✭✭✭

    image List shall be this evening. It shall be enormous. 

    Recovery jog done. My forearms ache- what's that all about?

  • LloydRLloydR ✭✭✭

    List fairy. Can you please change my entry on 23 May to Gothenburg Half Marathon. I supplied the wrong spelling originally and everytime I see it in the list I get a queer feeling inside. Just changing that one letter will make me feel so much more comfortable image

  • JokeybhoyJokeybhoy ✭✭✭
    Also in the ballot VLM,why can the not be like New York and Berlin and let you know in a few weeks rather than 5 -6 months.
  • The JimbobThe Jimbob ✭✭✭

    cause it's a stupid Ballot. I guess they know how many ballot places they have once all the GFA entries are in and they flogged all their gold bond charity places. Plus, there's never any information about it.

    Boston has this - which puts people in the picture

    http://216.235.243.43/news-and-press/news-listing/2014/september/2015-boston-marathon-qualifier-acceptances.aspx

     

  • loving the video, I look in as much pain as I was feeling!

  • PC -PC - ✭✭✭

    Thanks TD, RunClaire for the HR info.

    BM - This thread is special, in previous years DV, Yer Maj and TD have had the honour of starting the new thread and I truly believe that it's a honour.  The advice DV and TD have shared has been invaluable and Yer Maj lead us on the sugar shunning/sub 4h or die crusades.  I'm so pleased to be part of the family but it's not my time to lead.  I can't remember which page I posted my advice on, I could post it again for someone to copy paste, or I could post it on the new thread.

  • LloydRLloydR ✭✭✭

    Thanks Jimbob for sharing the info on the Boston acceptances. Wish London could be more open, it seems a bit sinister how the places are allocated between ballot and charity places which leads to lots of speculation and mystery around the cost to the charities.

    The timelag between applying and notification is just ridiculous. But as long as the demand is strong (and it seems to get stronger and stronger) they can play it any way they like.

  • LloydRLloydR ✭✭✭

    PC - I think it is time to accept your position as the creator of the new thread.

    I pledge my vote for PC.

  • LloydRLloydR ✭✭✭

    See page 379 for the advice info for the new thread.

  • Seems odd lining up and paying for an event in 2016 anyhow Anglesey half it is!! Thrown my name into the London lottery totally agree with jokeybohy the length of time is ludicrous
  • NellsNells ✭✭✭

    Agentpenguin - see you there! I signed up on Friday when they opened. It's my home town race, so I can't miss it. Still trying to persuade various members of my family to run it, though I'm worried a few of them might beat me on their first attempt.

    List Fairy: Can you add me (and possibly agentpenguin) to Anglesey Half Marathon on 6th March? It's sponsored by a crisps company if anyone else is interested... image

  • thisisnattythisisnatty ✭✭✭

    Events List

    May 6: Great Yarmouth Road Runners 5M series – KeyserSuze.
    May 9: Bewl Water trail Half/Marathon – Heidi Barr, RunClaire. Penicuik 10k – Meadower.
    May 10: Bracknell Half  - Kenno. Bromsgrove 10k – Jellybum. Hackney Half – Jimbob, Nells. Leeds Half – Andy W. Oxford Town & Gown 10k – Orapidrun.
    May 14: Trail of the 3 Rocs – Onetit. Two Castles 10K – Mattleydon.
    May 15: Scott W's birthday. Black Rock ‘5’ – Meadower.
    May 16: Orpington Marafun - Thisisnatty.
    May 17: Simon Mac's birthday. Richmond Park Marathon - Thisisnatty. Windermere Marathon - City Fan.
    May 20: Great Yarmouth Road Runners 5M series – KeyserSuze.
    May 23 Suzy L's birthday. Gothenburg Half - Lloyd R. Shindig in the Shires – Agent Penguin.
    May 24: Brecon to Cardiff Ultra - Yer Maj. Ox Half – Jellybum. Windsor Trail Half – Sunnysider Phil.
    May 25: London BUPA 10k – Heroine in a Half Shell, Jimbob, Nells, Radar Sal, Thisisnatty, MrThisisnatty.
    May 30: Kent Roadrunner - Thisisnatty. Stockholm Marathon - Eggy, Heroine in a Half-Shell, Mr Heroine in a Half-Shell, Keyser Suze, Nells, Scott the Walker.
    May 31: Bristol 10k - Benign Murmurring. Comrades - Dannirr, Running Rodent. Edinburgh Marathon - Meadower. Elleker Half – Penny71.
    Jun 1: Penny71’s birthday.
    Jun 2: Eggy's birthday.
    Jun 6: TrailBlazer Bedgebury Forest Half - Heidi Barr. Viking Coastal Marathon – RunClaire.
    Jun 7:  Ickenahm 5 – Jimbob. Regent’s Park Summer Series 10k – Nells. Stour Valley - Thisisnatty.
    Jun 13: Little Pig Duathlon, Dolgellau - Agent Penguin.
    Jun 14: Cotswold 113 Half Iron Triathlon – Sunnysider Phil. Liverpool Rock n Roll Marathon – Andy W, Orbutt. Perth Marathon – Penny71. St Albans Half – Peter Sting Wray. Swansea Half – Minniemonster.
    Jun 21: Nike Women’s 10k – Nells. Seven Hills of Edinburgh – Meadower.
    Jun 23 : Nodster’s birthday.
    Jun 25: Keyser Suze's birthday.
    Jun 27: Cotswold Way Relay - Benign Murmurring.
    Jun 28: IronmanUK70.3 Wimbleball – Chunkytfg.
    Jul 3-5:  Long Course Weekend inc. Wales Marathon – Sunnysider Phil.
    Jul 4: Clontarf Half – Joanna3.
    Jul 4-5: Enigma Summer - Thisisnatty.
    Jul 5: Dyrham Park 10k - Benign Murmurring. Edgehill Half – Mattleydon. Regent’s Park Summer Series 10k – Nells.
    Jul 7: Methley canal run – Andy W.
    Jul 9: Cityrace Corporate 5k – Jimbob.
    Jul 11-12: Race to the Stones - Heroine in a Half-Shell, Orapidrun. Summer Ranscome – RunClaire(Sunday), Thisisnatty+MrNatty(Saturday).
    Jul 12: British 10k London – KeyserSuze, Mr KeyserSuze, Nells. DRAM Dundee Marathon – Meadower. Challenge Roth - Hatter 88. Leeds 10K – Andy W.
    Jul 18: Dorset Invader – KeyserSuze. Musselburgh 10k – Meadower.
    Jul 19: Olympic Park 10k – Jellybum, Jimbob, LloydR, Nells, Running Rodent.
    Jul 20: Meadower's birthday.
    Jul 26: Lunar-tic Marathon – Sunnysider Phil. Outlaw Ironman – Chunktfg.
    Jul 28: ATM's birthday.
    Jul 30: Tinkerbel's birthday.
    Aug 2: Regent’s Park Summer Series 10k – Nells. Ride London – Sunnysider Phil.
    Aug 4: Uisge Jo's birthday.

  • thisisnattythisisnatty ✭✭✭

    Aug 8: HELP Half Marathon – Meadower.
    Aug 11: Boyska's birthday.
    Aug 18: Andy W’s birthday.
    Aug 22-23: Bad Cow Double – Heroine in a Half-Shell, Thisisnatty (Saturday only?).
    Aug 30: Severn Bridge half – HeatherS, Minniemonster. Shaken not Stirred – Thisisnatty. Trail Larroque 10K – Onetit.
    Aug 31: Cakeathon - Thisisnatty.
    Sep 4: Benign Murmurring's birthday.
    Sep 6: Bridgwater Half - Heroine in a Half-Shell. Chippenham Half – HeatherS. Kenilworth Half – Mattleydon, Orapidrun. Wetherby 10K – Andy W.
    Sep 8: Elizabeth's birthday.
    Sep 12: Marathon du Medoc – Benign Murmurring. Scotland Coast to Coast - Kaz.
    Sep 13: Great North Run – Andy W, Jimbob, Meadower, Peter Sting Wray. Ironman Wales – Sunnysider Phil. Kilmalcom Half – Eggy.
    Sep 15: Yorkshireman off road Marathon - Dirty Leeds Rob, Suzy Larkin.
    Sep 16: PC's birthday, Mrs O's birthday.
    Sep 20: La Sapaicaine Half – Onetit.
    Sep 27: Berlin Marathon – LloydR, Meadower, Minniemonster, Nells. Paris-Versailles – Running Rodent.
    Oct 6: Onetit's birthday.
    Oct 11: Chicago Marathon – Dannirr. Oxford Half – Kenno. Royal Parks Half – Jellybum, Nells. Yorkshire Marathon – Andy W.
    Oct 18: Abingdon Marathon – Sunnysider Phil. Amsterdam Marathon – Benignmurmmuring, Betzza, Emmy, Heroine in a Half-Shell, Jellybum, Jimbob, Kenno, KeyserSuze, Mattleydon, Nells, Nodster, Onetit, Orapidrun, Thisisnatty.
    Oct 24: Beachy Head Marathon – Meadower.
    Oct 25: Dublin Marathon - Joanna3. Marine Corps Marathon – Orbutt, Radar Sal.
    Oct 27-29: Three Lakes – Thisisnatty.
    Oct 30: Orapidrun's birthday.
    Nov 2: Leeds Rob's birthday.
    Nov 6: Danni's birthday. California International Marathon – Berkeley Runner.
    Nov 7-8: Enigma Fireworks Double – Heroine in a Half-Shell.
    Nov 15: Leeds Abbey Dash 10K – Andy W. St Neots Half – KeyserSuze.
    Nov 25: Jimbob's birthday.
    Nov 25-29: Saxon Shore mischief - Heroine in a Half-Shell (Quint), Thisisnatty (Double).
    Dec 1: James B's birthday.
    Dec 20: Porstmouth Coastal Marathon – RunClaire, Sunnysider Phil.
    Dec 31: TD's birthday.
    Jan 1: Roundman's birthday.
    Jan 3: OO52's birthday.
    Jan 7-10: Dopey Challenge: Heroine in a Half-Shell, Meadower.
    Jan 12: Orbutt's birthday.
    Jan 15: Yer Maj's birthday.
    Jan 19: DV's birthday.
    Feb 10: Emmy's birthday.
    Feb 28: Iain M's birthday.
    Mar 1: Radar Sal's birthday.
    Mar 6: Anglesey Half – Agentpenguin, Nells.
    Mar 8: Jus T's birthday.
    Mar 17-20: Quad @ Enigma Week – Thisisnatty.
    Mar 25: Leggy Mountbatten's birthday.
    Apr 3: Betzza’s Birthday. PARIS MARATHON 2016.
    Apr 10: Kaz's birthday.
    Apr 11: Chris Morgan's birthday.
    Apr 17: Brighton Marathon – Meadower, Thisisnatty.
    Apr 18: Boston – Sunnysider Phil.
    Apr 23: Kirsten Lancs Lass' birthday.
    Apr 24: Picklelily's birthday.

  • Thanks thisisnatty. So many events to choose.

    I pottered round Three Forts Half yesterday. Chatting all the way round with my sister made up for the zero visibility, wind and drizzle. After sunshine the last couple of years we were overdue a miserable one.

  • MeadowerMeadower ✭✭✭

    My planning this year's been horrific.  I've signed up for three 10k's, and they're all the weekend after a marathon or (in the case of the weekend coming) a 20-mile race.  What an eejit.

    On that note, list fairy, please add me to the Men's 10k in Edinburgh, 1 November.  Woops.

    I'm in the ballot for London, too.  Someone has to get in, after all.

  • So, after a 'rest day' of household chores, moving furniture and multiple washing loads  I'm quite glad to be getting back to only going to work and running image.

  • LLoyd, I too would be happy for PC to have the honour but he seems uncomfortable with it, so fair enough.

    I can think of another. Who is consistently welcoming, inclusive and full of great cheer and advice? Who is our inspiration and our greatest nutter? Get on and start the new thread would ya', EMMY image

  • KeyserSuzeKeyserSuze ✭✭✭

    Good morning! Well, I had an eventful weekend's running. A new parkrun (to me) on Saturday then we cleared out the spare room in the afternoon. That was pretty good as we now have a nice, clear(ish) spare room.  The downside is that it made my asthma flare up so I couldn't catch my breath and my inhalers weren't doing the trick.

    Sunday morning it was a bit tight but okay so I set off on my 19M. After about three it hadn't eased like I thought it would so I thought I'd give it another mile or so. At five, I was nearly hyperventilating when I took a drink so decided to turn for home. Ended up doing about 6ish miles in the rain. Felt much better on Monday so tried again - this time in blazing sun! Managed the 19.1 (hooray) but it wasn't pretty or fast and definitely walked more than I wanted to for the last five miles (!). Feel a bit worn today. 

    I'm pleased I covered the distance but I may need to have a think about the strategy for Stockholm. I'd love to run the whole thing but I've also found that the races I enjoy the most are the ones with wee walk breaks at timed intervals - controlled and steady and I get to the end feeling happy and not slow and desperate! I might have plan A and B, depending on how I feel. 

    Walk/run versus run all the way - what do you reckon?

  • JokeybhoyJokeybhoy ✭✭✭
    KS: If you feel more comfortable and enjoy the race more with walk breaks,then its a no brainer,go enjoy the race.Has your training went well enough for you to target your goal time
  • Eggyh73Eggyh73 ✭✭✭

    KS - Sorry can't help with that one. I've never tried a run/walk strategy. I have to admit I'm time motivated. The races I've ran poorly in for what ever reason always feel like a let down, such as Loch Ness last year. I never feel any sense of accomplishment unless I've gone for it.

    I think you just need to decide what you want from the race and how your form is and take it from there. If you think that run/walk will be better for you and you'll enjoy it more then there's no harm in trying that.

  • KS - I think that the ultra runners would say that you don't lose much time using a run/walk strategy but you do obviously gain the bit where you're not killing yourself!!

     

    So I've just got in to listening to the podcast 'Marathon Talk' which goes some way to explaining why I see so many distinctive t.shirts with 26.2 written on them! I've already got a couple of good training tips just from listening to one podcast, but I am now hugely confused about fuelling. I listened to a podcast that had Liz Yelling and a couple of ultra runners in it talking about nutrition.

    From what I can ascertain they were suggesting that gels are evil and that it's a modern myth that we need any kind of fuelling at all during a marathon. I am confused now because I've been working on getting more gels in rather than less because the way I understood it as soon as you start trying to burn fat is when your performance drops. In the last two marathons I've had a very difficult last 5-6 miles, where as when I was taking less gels and doing a lot more training in an energy depleted state (dieting) I didn't have such grief in the last 5-6 miles, although I was running 15-30 mins slower so I don't know whether it's fair to compare or not!? I only mention the depleted state because Liz Yelling said that she trained under those conditions to get better at fat burning.

    Any thoughts would be appreciated!

     

  • KeyserSuzeKeyserSuze ✭✭✭

    Thanks guys - I'll see how I feel nearer the time. 

    Ah, marathon talk - love it. It's made me cry on a long run once, interviewing a man who'd had a heart transplant and had run marathons ever since, and was really grateful to his donor.

    I think fuelling is hugely personal, but my understanding is that the LSR are slow in an effort to get your body used to being in that zone to burn fat, so your performance doesn't drop, just as Liz was saying. I've never had more than three gels in a marathon, but personally, I don't like them - too gloopy and sugary for me. I prefer powder in water. I had shot blox yesterday and they were a bit too much for me too! 

    I know people who run 12+miles on nothing - no water, no food before or during - and feel fine. 

  • Eggyh73Eggyh73 ✭✭✭

    I think from a scientific perspective nobody has a much of a clue on how the body deals with it, or most food related topics to be honest. It's why nutritionists are nothing but a joke.

    There's contradictory evidence from either side of the argument. Personally I'd just experiment and see what works best for you. I'd think there would be a difference in fuelling from elite athlete downwards anyway. Even just on a basic principal of energy spent x time running. Add to the equation you're average runner wouldn't have the time to train to an elite schedule, or have access to their recovery plans and equipment. There are too many variations in just that to deal with to have a 'you should do x, not y' approach.

  • Wow, this thread moves fast doesn't it!  Thanks for the welcome - though that seems a few pages ago now!

    Although I've been working in London for 16 years I started a new assignment last week where for the first time my offices have a gym and decent showers.  I've just got back from a lunchtime run and it feels like I have half of London's dirt in my eyes and that I've inhaled the other half.  Perhaps I need to try the parks rather than the river!

    HIAHS - I've been a MT listener for some time (pleased to say I made the podium once - on a very quiet week, lol!!).  I'm not sure how far back you've gone, but this was discussed a lot more when Tom did Manchester last year.

    The way I understand it is pretty much as KS states above.  On your long run you typically have enough fuel for about 18 miles.  At that point you will bonk / hit the wall, whatever you want to call it but basically your glycogen is used up an you can't burn fat fast enough to give you the energy you need hence you slow down. 

    By taking gels or the equivalent you can help avoid that, you are re-fueling your body.

    However, if you do your long runs at the right speed (i.e. slow!) you can become better 'fat adapted'.  Your body becomes more efficient at burning fat, you don't hit the wall in the same way and as a result you can go further for longer.

    By doing this you train your body to be able to use fat efficiently and therefore don't need the gels.

    I've been experimenting with this for the last year or so.  This year for Brighton I did 5 long runs 18,20,22,23,21 miles.  I didn't take a gel in any (nor did I need to). I was able to maintain a constant pace throughout.  In the marathon itself I think I took two.  Whilst not fully fat adapted, a year ago I might have taken 6.

    I've probably explained this pretty badly, but hope it helps a bit!

  • The JimbobThe Jimbob ✭✭✭

    yep i'm with what Eggy and Sunnysider said.

    I know of very fast runners who have trained their bodies so they don't need gels (or no more than 1 or 2 / or a mouthful of powerade hear and there in their marathon). In training they go out and do the long run with a cup of coffee or a glass of water for breakfast.

    I like to go out with tea, porridge and crumpets in my tum, cause I'm greedy and love brekkie - on the long run I might use one or two gels on top of that if there are no drinking taps. On race day I have the same breakfast but my gel belt is loaded with 6 and I'm on the first one after 30 mins and then 1 every 3 miles. Each to their own. It works for me. The gels won't really replenish your glycogen properly. It won't get into to your muscles quick enough to have a meaningful effect, but they help a little. It's all in the long runs and the race pace. You do your long runs slow to improve your endurance, the body gets better at burning fat and storing the glycogen, you don't overcook the race pace, otherwise you burn up the glycogen stores too quick and then you're in the sh!t.

  • Hmmm. Now I've gone completely the other way in recent months, I don't bother with gels or breakfast for anything lower than 16 miles, and in the winter I wasn't even taking water unless it was 13+, but I use all the long runs (18+) to practice the gels because in the past I've felt pretty rough having had them, and practice running having had breakfast because I never eat before training normally as I'm a morning runner.

    It's food for thought I guess (no pun intended!!), but we've had conversations on here in the past where it's been suggested that once you hit the wall that is it, no coming back from it and nothing good coming from it, but this approach sounds like they are actively expecting it as a way of improving.

    I can certainly do long runs without gels, I'd like to seeing as they are quite pricy, not very nice and full of sugar, which I do believe makes it much harder for me (a complete sugar addict) to stick to my healthy eating plans.

    Is this fat-burning thing why we are supposed to be doing LSRs then rather than LMRs or LFRs?! image I always thought it was for the recovery aspect??

  • And thank you and hello to Sunnysider Phil! image

  • Hi KeyserSuze, I do a run walk thingy and it costs me almost no time. Probably saves me really, if I run solidly I'm on the injury bench pretty quickly. With run/ walk I can do the things I want to and still survive!

    You might like to look at Jeff Galloway, he has some useful ideas on how to determine when to take your planned walk breaks and also on what ratio of walk : run to use for your personal best results. 

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