P&D Autumn Marathon Training Thread 2014

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  • MennaniaMennania ✭✭✭

    YP - indeed welcome aboard - I used the 18/70 to sneak in under 2.55 in Paris and think it was the right choice for me, although I upped the number of 20s.

    Can you give us a bit of background/history - It doesn't help the training, its just we are a bunch of nosy bastardsimage

  • booktrunkbooktrunk ✭✭✭
    Mennania wrote (see)

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    Can you give us a bit of background/history - It doesn't help the training, its just we are a bunch of nosy bastardsimage

    +1 and plodder !!!!!!!!!!!!! 2:55 meeps!

  • Madbee wrote (see)
    Poke-im-on! (Laugh here, please)

    http://a.gifb.in/052011/1304618376_tumbleweed-gif.gif

  • MadbeeMadbee ✭✭✭
    ....I'll get my coat.



    Nice to have you Yorkshire Zoomer - 18/55 just helped me take 40 minutes off my PB, but I suspect once you get into the realms of the really speedy, upping the mileage a little becomes an advantage...
  • Madbee - just to level the playing field for P&D. I did the 18/55 and I put 7 minutes on my PB time. So much better value for money!

  • MadbeeMadbee ✭✭✭
    Lol, Wenty, you actually will think I'm ridiculous, but one of my sillier moments mid-marathon was thinking that it was all going too fast! Sounds like you'd get your money's-worth in an ultraimage
  • chickstachicksta ✭✭✭
    Love the tumbleweed image. There was tons of the stuff when we drove thru Texas, New Mexico and Arizona.



    I'm too crap/old for P&D but will pop in to check on everyone's progress and enjoy our favorite discussion topic image



    I only put 30 mins on my PB (embarrassed face). I still have to find out what happened 3 weeks before the marathon that suddenly made every run a slow struggle. One moment I feel comfy doing 7-15 pace the next day even 8-15 feels hard image had hoped for a miracle on the day but that never happened. Instead I struggled to stay upright for the last 10 miles. The dizziness made me take longer and longer walk breaks but I held it together till after the finish photo before I collapsed and was treated for dehydration/heat stroke image



    On a more positive note: P&D helped me to chip off big chunks in 3 successful campaigns image
  • booktrunkbooktrunk ✭✭✭

    With regards to P&D I'm slightly worried... It doesn't take it to account any loo breaks* image They should train you to go 10 seconds faster per mile so you have some loo time image

     

     

     

    * Had to come up with one way to mention our favourite subject.

  • ShazmoShazmo ✭✭✭

    Chick - it's the Boston effect! I added 20 minutes to my PB there. But like you, P+D has previously given good results. But yes, your pre-race dip needs investigating.

    Nice work Madbee - I got it image And Wenturtle, that's imageimage

    Had my first hyperbaric session today. It was a bit scary. And boring. And made me feel relly tired! But if it speeds my hamstring recovery, I'll suffer the other 9 or so sessions image

     

  • whats hyperbaric seesions?

    chick you are never too old or crap for P&D...

    Wenturtle - I like that..... Hmmmm decisions decisions. Wenturtle, Wentoise or Wentort.

     

  • Wentoise: does it need to just be 1, surely it could change from day to day?

  • Dr.DanDr.Dan ✭✭✭

    Aha .... you're all over here on the Autumn thread! image

    Wenty
    ... You can't "do a Wentoise" though can you?

    Apparently I'm doing Nottingham and following the 18/55 plan. image

    Actually, I might try Nottingham but not sure yet. I also might do Dublin as my main race. Also not sure whether I'll do P&D again - if I do, it'll be 18/55 - but actually I think I need more LT/subLT work and less of the speedy stuff..

    September 7 (Kent)
    SGB1953 - 12/55 - 3:35

    September 28 (Nottingham)
    Dr.Dan - un-tapered training run
    Steve Trotter 2 - 18/55 - 3:15
    veester - 18/55-70 - 3:45
    Yorkshire Ploddder - 18/55 - 2:55

    September 28 (Loch Ness)
    Night Nurse - 18/55 - 3:45
    StewartC - 18/55 - 3:45

    October 5 (Chester)
    fergster - 18/55-70 - 3:00
    Madbee – 12/55 - 3:39
    xmjsx - 18/55 - 3:29

    October 5 (Jersey)
    andrews148 - 18/70-85 - 2:50

    October 12 (Yorkshire)
    15West - 18/70-85 - 2:50
    MileMarker – 18/55-70 - 3:00

    October 19 (Abingdon)
    Just Running - 18/55-70 - 3:10
    Scott Pulley - 18/55-70 - 3:15

    October 25 (Snowdonia)
    stutyr - 18/55 - 3:30

    October 26 (Frankfurt)
    kease7 - 12 or 18/70-85 - TBA

    October 26 (Venice)
    The Running Tortoise - 12/55 - 3:25

    October 27 (Dublin)
    kevin70 - 18/55 - TBA
    Dr.Dan - 18/55? - 3:29

    TBD...
    Mennania - 18/55-70 - 2:50

    Nose Nowt 18/55  3:39

  • ShazmoShazmo ✭✭✭

    I will try to get some photos in The Chamber tomorrow LFR - uploading is not my area of expertise though image

  • Wentoise wrote (see)

    Wenturtle - I like that..... Hmmmm decisions decisions. Wenturtle, Wentoise or Wentort.

     

    Or a Wentapin? 

    .....Terrible afternoon at work - can you tell? 

  • marrowsmarrows ✭✭✭

    Today I found out that WENTOR is a Polish wholesaler of fireplaces.

  • my god marrows - you must be bored!

    I like it LFR but would it not be better as Wenterrapin

    DR Dan I think "doing a Wenty" is a collective of all of the above names.

    Scott I think you are right this could be a rolling name change sort of thing!

  • FergFerg ✭✭✭

    Nose Nowt, Dr Dan, glad you made it to the other side image

    Madbee - your joke rocks image

    Marrows, your day in work must have been even more spectacularly tedious than mine. I have now learnt something today though, so thanks the the schoolin' !

    Dr. Dan, you can 'do a Wentoise', but it's frowned upon in 5 countries and illegal in at least 3. So marrows was sayin' anyway.

    10 miles GA earlier for me. Felt good after a tedious day in work. Now ready to eat the house. 

    Wait... it appears as if I just posted about actually running. On a runners forum too.

     

  • Wentoise: it definitely has the potential to be, some brilliant names coming from people!

    5mile recovery for me today, after 9miles GA yesterday.

  • I'll just plop my hat into the ring if I may.image

    Abingdon, 18/55 - 3.25

    (toying with the idea of Stevenage 2weeks later for giggles).

    Last time out I began P&D from a standing start(injured) so hoping to build from a decent base this time round.

    I'm guessing most of the Sept P&D ers have started or about to ?

     

     

  • MileMarkerMileMarker ✭✭✭

    8 miles tonight including first intervals session since London, in yet more rain...

    If we run out of variations of wentoise/turtle/tort then there are always possible anagrams to consider.... Wine toes being one from Wentoise.....

  • andrews148andrews148 ✭✭✭

    I did a 9 w/ 4 LT the other day and felt like I was going to die. It feels hard to believe that I did 15k at that pace when training for London.

    I do need to go to the doctor because my chest hasn't been right for weeks. A weird pain at the top of my sternum.

  • MileMarkerMileMarker ✭✭✭

    I've ran 3 parkruns since London and all 3 been slower and yet harder work than in the weeks  before.

    Best to get the chest checked out Andrews, is the pain only when you run?

  • andrews148andrews148 ✭✭✭

    Not really when I run, but just generally. My chest isn't working correctly though. It's hard to explain.

    It's been going on a bit too long, so time for the doctor.

  • maccatheknacca: see you at abbo, pretty sure most september p&der's would have  started by now, my abbo schedule starts in just over 2 weeks...scary!

    Milemarker: the anagram wine toes...absolutely brilliant made me chuckle. Nice interval session too image

    andrews148: hope the doctor's goes okay and its nothing too serious

  • FergFerg ✭✭✭

    Andrews148, good call on checking things out with the doc. Sending good vibes in the meantime.

    Good to see you Macca!

  • I'm still in. Working my way through my first week of 18/70. My goal is to do the paces properly - slowing right down for GA, Recovery and Long runs because I think that's where I've messed up in the past. It's a pride thing...



    However, I fell off my bike today, properly over the handlebars and now have an egg sized lump on my elbow! Morning 9 miler might be a struggle.



    Good to see a lively gang here already!
  • FergFerg ✭✭✭

    Geez veester, that's a proper hardcore 'childhood' injury. 'Course they didn't have them there fancy crash helmets back in my day. Hard as nails we were.

    Helping my brother in law shift boxes in a house move today. A fine test for my ectomorphic 'muscular' runners body image image image

    6 miles GA later for me in the sunshine. Hurrah!

  • StewartCStewartC ✭✭✭

    It has been a good week weather wise up here too, shame I've got to work through the day image, I've managed to run every day this week including a LT run on Tuesday the pace was nothing to shout about but I know it will improve as the training progresses.  I think the first week will be around 46 miles 8 short of the scheduled 54, but as I haven't been running more than 40 miles for the past 6 weeks that will be a good start to the campaign

     

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