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Redjeep..Good to hear from you again; wondered where everyone had gone. Glad that you now feel you've got it all behind you. Hope so. And now another test of patience until you can start getting back to some sort of running. A multi-day cycle tour sounds great. Have never felt inclined to spend more time than necessary in the saddle, but I hear that it does eventually get easier.
My own running is still going well, but the stopwatch is a bit discouraging at the moment. Yesterday's parkrun was supposed to see me back in sub-25 minute territory again, instead of which I clocked 25:32; (12 seconds slower than four weeks ago!) And the Poole 10k, three weeks ago, took me 54:04, when I was hopeful of going sub-53. I obviously need to take the training more seriously....or come to terms with the inevitable. But I've got the same attitude as another marathon runner that I was running alongside a couple of years ago. He said,'I'm not an athlete, but I am stubborn!' But every day is a good day.
Keep us posted on your recovery. Would also be good to hear back from others who are still on the mend.
Thanks MrM2. Don't get too discouraged by the times. At the moment I'd give my right leg for a sub 25min 5 km.
30 minutes on the turbo today. First time in weeks, but it felt like I'd never cycled in my life.
I also got approval today for my cycling adventure and have decided on London to Paris so have started to book travel.
Sorry to have been quiet for so long but its time now for an update from me. I had my ablation on March 23 and saw the cardio a week or so ago for a three month check. I have increasingly better since the op and am back running and orienteering. My fitness levels are not there yet but I can run without getting out of breath although the pace is not much to write home about. I jogged around a park run a week or so ago in 29.10 and felt fine and made sure I finished in good shape. So it's now a question of how much and how intense I want to train.
The feedback from the cardio is that I have residual sinus bradycardia as my pulse even after the op is c.48. There is also a question over a mitral valve leak which may have quietened down after the op or maybe not. So I will get another echocardiogram in a couple of months. But for the moment, I'm trying to get to a level of running which is enjoyable.
Hope you are all ok.
Howard, Good to have your up-date. Yes, it has been quiet on here. Not sure if that is good news? But your news is encouraging; back running and orienteering, and running without getting out of breath. Take it steady and I'm sure you'll see your fitness levels returning.
I've not decided which marathon(s) to run this year. There are a few in Europe that I fancy (Basel, Budapest, Lake Garda, Palma) but I might have to settle for something nearer home like New Forest. Meanwhile, like last year, I have a double focus; working on 'speed' on the shorter distances, and extending my longer runs. My 1600m track run last week took 7:36, and Saturday's Parkrun took 25:31. (Want to improve both of those.) I got out at 5 a.m. on Sunday and ran 17'. This week will be easier; starting with an easy 10' tomorrow morning, before it gets too hot.
Are you using a heart-rate monitor during your runs? After my ablation I was very keen to see how settled my pulse would be with different distances and paces. Now, even though I wear the monitor, I only check the readings at the end.
All the best, Howard. Keep us posted.
Hi Guys, I've been waiting for the official report of my most recent echo/gram done at the end of July but it hasn't arrived yet. So here is the unofficial info gleaned from the radiographer. My MR (mitral valve regurgitation) did not look so bad to her that it will require an intervention. Her feeling was that the cardio would go for annual monitoring. If it turns out like that, that would suit me well. I'm feeling ok, my heart is back in normal sinus rhythm and apart from missing beats (particularly in the morning on waking), my HR is a steady 44-48 bpm.
I'm running a bit more now and doing some mini interval work on the treadmill in the gym as well as some steady stuff outdoors. My recent parkrun was 27.32 which is acceptable for now and is something to work on. Generally I am enjoying running again and am not phased by getting out for an hour or more. Now I'm hoping to take advantage of what remains of the summer to get fit again.
To answer Michael's question re using a HRM, the answer is yes, and it is interesting to see now that my heart settles at a rate and on even terrain hardly deviates (ave c.128-134). During my recent park run I had a max of 154 and an average of 142.
I hope all of you are well.
Howard, good to have your up-date, and to know that you are able to do a range of running activities. You must be pleased to have the heart rate steady again, and getting sensible readings during your runs.
I've never got into treadmill running, but I'm closer to the seafront than the gym. Takes me three minutes to run down to the beach, but the gym is 2.5 miles away. Anyway, I prefer to be outside, but the weather can be a challenge along the coast.
Preparing for an autumn marathon, but not sure where. We have a few 'home' complications at the moment, which means that I'm probably looking for something in UK rather than elsewhere. Last Sunday I got out early to run my first 20' training run this year (10' @ 10m/m and 10' @ 9m/m) I was quite pleased with that, and wanted to do a half marathon distance this week, to see if I could maintain the higher pace for a longer run. Would have liked to have had a couple more days, but looking at the weather forecast it looked like today was the best choice. So, out at 5:30 this morning, I ran the 13.1 at a steady 9m/m for 10' and then felt comfortable to run the last three in 8:52, 8:42 and 8:31. (01:56:43 total time. About 8:55 pace)
So, I'm really happy with the continued benefits from my catheter ablation, and wish you well as you enjoy better health. Keep us posted.
Yesterday marked two years since my catheter ablation, to correct atrial flutter. Thought that I'd write a short note for any who followed this thread previously, and for anyone facing a similar procedure.
In a nutshell...totally successful outcome; don't seem to have missed a beat.
Still able to keep around the 70% age-grading on results from 5k to marathon. Best 5k this year was two weeks ago (24:57...72.48% A.G.). Marathon in September (New Forest... treated as a training run...4:17) and Dresden a week ago, with a time of 4:11. This gave 69% A.G., but was aiming for 70+. So still some work to do.
Looking forward to autumn and winter training. Hoping to run a 10k on Boxing Day, and some more marathons in 2017.
Would be good to catch up with any who have contributed previously; those who have had heart issues. Happy Days. Enjoy your running.
Michael, thank you for your update. It is very helpful to have your experiences as an example of the progress possible if we are prepared to put the work in. Since I last wrote, I have done quite a lot of orienteering events and several park runs, but only a few longer runs. The fitness is coming back and I can definitely feel the benefit of the ablation now. Last Saturday I ran a modest PB at my local park run of 26.52, still some way to go but it's a sign. I have also noticed that my running improves if I can get a longer run in of at least an hour every week. That was always a cornerstone of my training when I ran seriously, but it's interesting to get this confirmation again even when I am much older.
I get to the gym at least once a week for a long weights and cardio workout, which I find very helpful. There are clear improvements in my fitness as measured by my increasing capacity to handle faster pace on the treadmill.
Healthwise there are still one or two unpleasant sides. If I don't get out to exercise and do some 'work' on my fitness, I have experience dizziness and nausea. It's intermittent, but consistently emerges when I am inactive, and something to check out with the doctor.
You asked a HRMs etc. I have recently bought a Garmin 235 which measures HR via the wrist. I find it very good and also highly motivating, and a clear improvement on my old Garmin Forerunner 305. According to the readings I am getting, it looks as if my bradychardia is also improving slowly as my resting pulse has moved up from 41/42 to 45/46. This may be as a result of the time it takes for the heart to remodel itself after an ablation. The cardiologist made me aware of this phenomenon when I last saw him, namely that the heart takes 6 months plus to remodel itself and accommodate the ablation completely.
Looking forward to your posts and those from the other guys who have the ablation recently.
Howard. Good to catch up with you. Glad to hear that you are still pecking away, and seeing signs of progress, despite some difficulties.
I have rarely used the gym, but increasingly feel that I'm missing out on some of the benefits, particularly upper body and core strengthening. Will reconsider membership.
I'm continuing to run on alternate days, as a rule, and still do a mix of sessions. Yesterday I ran with one of my sons, and we did an undulating 6' in 54 mins... He normally uses the treadmill for distances between 5k and 10k, and found that he had some unusual aches today. We plan to run tomorrow, and again at Parkrun, on Saturday, where we will be joined by one of my daughters. Should be fun.
Keep up the good work. Enjoy your running. Michael
Hi everyone. Good to see some life back in this thread and the progress people are making.
I've just been posting in Clubhouse asking for advice on alternatives to marathons as I felt a little down last weekend after all my friends ran the local marathon and I really missed the buzz. I also saw my surgeon again a few weeks back for a check up and he gave me a full bill of health, with the dire warning never to do any more marathons again. Ever.
He told me I can do HM's or Olympic distance Tris, but I'm feeling a bit 'bleh' about them.
I have been building up my fitness again and am trying to do either a 6 mile slowish run each evening or 60 minutes on the turbo (which is becoming quite strenuous).
I still find that I'm short of confidence every time I run, doubting that I'll be up for the full 6 miles, but have never not done it and have extended it to 7 or 8 a few times, so am hoping that will pass. I am however, currently off the road with a bad case of man flu.
I am still trying to find something to fill my marathon shaped void, but can't really think of anything. In a way I'm starting to think that I can't really call myself a runner any more if I don't do marathons.
I can really see myself moving back towards cycling and line up a few sportives next year. Since my last post I've done a London to Paris solo cycle, which I loved, and which I planned when I was confined to bed for 24 hours after my operation, literally unable to move.
This thread is giving me encouragement that I'll get my fitness back to where it was, except for the marathons.
Redjeep! Thanks for dropping in. I had noticed that you had opened a new thread, looking for some alternatives to the marathon. I didn't want to respond, as it would look like rubbing salt into sore wounds. But glad that you've posted here!
It's great that you can still consider some serious bike rides, and that you can build up to the half marathon. But I know what you mean about nothing really being able to take the place of the marathon.
Easy for me to say, but try to stay positive, and enjoy every new day. Every day is a good day, and at my age every day is a bonus. I would hope that in a similar position to yours I would be able to concentrate on the things that I could do, and not dwell too much on what I can't do...even if I could do them in the past. I guess that every run involves a bit of that, these days.
My parkrun this morning was a minute slower than I managed a few weeks ago. And I tried every bit as hard! But realistically, the times are only going in one direction now. But it was good to run 'with' two of my children this morning; my son was happy with his first parkrun (23 minutes) and my daughter was pleased with a new p.b.(less than 25 minutes).They are both in their 30s. So I am already finding new ways of enjoying my running. But it's never going to be like the good old days.
Keep in touch, Redjeep, and let us know what you're getting up to. Michael.
As the other thread developed I realized that I was probably whining a bit and should really just be grateful for being able to do what I can. Not because of anything anybody said, just as I looked at myself more.
I'm thinking about trying kayaking and may go back to sailing if I get an opportunity. The only problem is that I live a long way from the sea and none of the local sailing clubs sail the types of boats that I'd be interested in.
I also plan to continue with the HM's and cycling.
It's nice to run with your kids, I occasionally get to do it with one of mine. I'm lucky that I can still beat him over any distance greater than 5k, but don't reckon it'll go on for much longer like this. (he's 24, I'm 52).
Redjeep. Good to see you looking a bit more positive! Half marathons would be my next distance, if I couldn't continue with 26'. Recovery time is so much shorter, and i.m.o. the training is much more compatible with shorter/faster runs. I'm still silly enough to think that I can continue marathon training, and improve my 5k times. There is some pay-off, but I'm sure its not the fastest way to improve.
A lot of my friends who used to run, have gone over to cycling. I'd like to join them for some of their rides, but at the moment I'll plod on with the running.
My best run this week was a 10k with my son; we clocked 52:52. He can run faster but not consistently, and relies on the treadmill for his pace.
Keep in touch. Let us how you're doing, from time to time. Michael.