VLM 2018!!

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  • rodeofliprodeoflip ✭✭✭
    Little Nell, I did both this year. Unfortunately it was really hot and I fell to bits in Boston despite training really well. London came around too soon and I still couldn't walk properly on the way out to the start line, but I got round better than I had expected to (still got a GFA time at London!). Lots of people do both, but you need to ramp up your training to be fit for 2 marathons in quick succession and you need to accept that the second one will be hard going and your time is likely to be slower than usual.

    Having said that, Boston is a real experience and I would love to return someday. If you have the option, I would suggest you go for it.
  • Excellent - many thanks, rodeoflip... that's helpful. I can't believe you couldn't walk properly in London yet still ran a GFA - amazing!

    I think I have decided to do both. Very recently we lost a dear work colleague to a very rare and unusual form of leukaemia - his wife has asked for donations to to the charity Bloodwise so I think I will do London in aid of them and then, even if I have to crawl round, I will feel like I'm achieving something :) Boston will be for me...
  • andyc209andyc209 ✭✭✭
    I did the double in 2014 - london first - ran GFA and then flew out to Boston - felt ok at the start (year after the bombing so we where searched loads of times before even starting so it was a long but understandable morning) - set off but very quickly that early downhill section blew my poor quads - quickly had to accept it was not going to be a PB attempt and just enjoyed the ride - coming round into the finish is still the highlight of my 26 marathons, what an emotional place it was that year. Go for it, do the double and just enjoy the ride!
  • Having the amazing luck of getting a ballot place for the 2017 VLM, I sadly had to defer due to personal reasons. I've paid my fees and have my spot for 2018 and started running again in June. This will be my first Marathon of any kind and have only once run a half before.
    I'm currently running 3 times a week. Two four miles and then a longer run, this week I hit 9 miles. I plan to keep this up, slowly increasing my long runs until December. Then I plan to start following an Intermediate Marathon plan.
    Does this sound sensible? Does anyone have any advice on anything else I should be doing, useful gear I should get? I plan on taking it seriously and doing the hard work.
  • Colin Head,
    You are doing fine as your training plan as long as you mix it with additional types of running - e.g. speed, fartlek, hills, paced as well as the LSR.
    If you have a finishing time in mind then others can help you with more focused advice.
    I also offer route familiarisation runs after October but these only work for those living close to London.

  • Hi Harmander,
    For the moment I have being doing tempo, distance running. I plan to add other types in once my 'proper' training kicks in, in December; Unless you think I would be better starting sooner?
    Originally I thought I would just be happy to get around, running all the way if possible. The more i train the more i think a 4:30 - 5:00 finish would be realistic and I would be really happy with.
    Unfortunately I live in Devon otherwise I would jump at the chance of running with you. I have been running with friends, but they don't exceed 10k, which is only really going to be useful for my shorter runs. I had considered joining a club but my local one has a reputation for being very elitist.
  • Colin,
    I will be one of the Blue Start (ballot) 5 hour pacers next April.
    I believe I posted a 24 week training schedule earlier.
    With 34 weeks to go, you could try doing weeks 13 to 23 twice if you start now.
    My course training runs include a 14 mile run (from Tower Bridge to Finish line) in January and a 20 mile run (from Cutty Sark to finish line) in February and possibly repeated in March. Come over as if it was a scheduled race. I run at a leisurely pace as I natter all the way.
  • I have a charity place for London 2018. It will be my first marathon so this year is going to be tough haha

    I started running in November 2016 to lose weight, and then found that it helped me manage my anxiety and depression. I started to push myself and then decided that I wanted to run a marathon (the dream was London) and that my first marathon I would fundraise for Mind / Samaritans. Luckily, I was granted a charity place with Mind - but now the real work starts... not only training but also fundraising. I have my first Half Marathon in Birmingham in October which I'm unprepared for. I'm not setting a time for my first marathon, I just want to get around and enjoy the day.

    So far, fundraising is not going as well as I'd hoped, which is frustrating as a lot of people know my story and my struggles and promote mental health charities on social media, but have yet to sponsor me or provide support. Do you guys have any fundraising tips? I've never done anything like this before, and the marathon alone is a massive challenge - I was literally an overweight couch potato before I started running, so the idea of even walking a marathon would have been a no no.
    I am running the London Marathon 2018 (my first marathon!) for Mind, the mental health charity:
    http://uk.virginmoneygiving.com/MindMarathon
  • Hi akaSovereign. First of all congratulations taking the leap and deciding to run your first marathon! Secondly, try not to get stressed about the fundraising - I know that's easier said than done when you experience anxiety, as you're likely to worry about it. With regard to sponsorship I imagine a lot of people wait until nearer the time, so you'll most likely see more support in March/April time. In the meantime perhaps break the goal down into achievable chunks, and arrange some fundraising events. Again, this can be challenging as it might take you out of your comfort zone, but try to embrace it as part of your challenge, and another step along your recovery journey.

    If it helps I'm also fundraising for London, and have a couple events lined up, including a car boot, bake sales and a bucket collection in my local town - just to give you some ideas. Wishing you lots of luck! :smile:
  • > @Momo21 said:
    > Hi akaSovereign. First of all congratulations taking the leap and deciding to run your first marathon! Secondly, try not to get stressed about the fundraising - I know that's easier said than done when you experience anxiety, as you're likely to worry about it. With regard to sponsorship I imagine a lot of people wait until nearer the time, so you'll most likely see more support in March/April time. In the meantime perhaps break the goal down into achievable chunks, and arrange some fundraising events. Again, this can be challenging as it might take you out of your comfort zone, but try to embrace it as part of your challenge, and another step along your recovery journey.
    >
    > If it helps I'm also fundraising for London, and have a couple events lined up, including a car boot, bake sales and a bucket collection in my local town - just to give you some ideas. Wishing you lots of luck! :smile:

    Thanks for the reassurance :)

    I've recently done a charity car boot sale (raised a measly £23 plus a couple of pence in the collection tin), and have a darts tournament organized for October 21st. I approached a few supermarkets about doing a bag pack, but they all said no due to each having their own charity to sponsor :/. I'm looking at other venues to do bake sales and have applied for a permit to do a bucket collection in town. I wanted to do a board games night at my local parish but they don't have a gaming or gambling license so need another idea for there. I'm looking at approaching my local pub to try and organize a pub quiz. I thought I had to use Virgin Money Giving, but have just found out that I could have used Just Giving, which I prefer as it has more features, such as text donations :/
    I am running the London Marathon 2018 (my first marathon!) for Mind, the mental health charity:
    http://uk.virginmoneygiving.com/MindMarathon
  • It sounds like you're doing all the right things. I think it's just about trusting the process and keeping motivated (not unlike the marathon training itself!)

    With the car boot sale did you sell everything? If not you could always try another one later in the year - different stuff sells better at different times of year. You could also ask people to donate things to sell. This may be easier for people than giving money, and it helps them out getting rid of stuff the don't need/want any more. 

    Im also sponsoring myself £1 for every training run and pay in at the end of each month. Which I think can help as people can see you're donating as well as asking for sponsorship.

    Lastly have you heard of Easy Fundraising? It's basically a cash back shopping site but raises money for good causes. You can set one up for Mind in your name and direct friends and family to shop via there. It's not a lot but it all adds up!
  • New to the site, running VLM 2018, after losing 6 stone in 18 months, struck it lucky with a premier inn hotel 500m from the finish @ £250 for 3 days,currently suffering from runners/jumpers knee after over doing it. A couple weeks rest and back up and I'll be back up running. Hoping to go under 5 hours at my first ever Marathon. Good luck to you all
  • Neilix30

    Great news. I will be one of the 5 hour pacers again at VLM 2018.
    Let me know if you want my opinion on VLM.
  • Hey guys. Apologies for my absence after setting this group up wayyy back in April, I've been away for personal reasons not laziness I promise :) Harmander you've done a great job of keeping this thread going through the quiet months until people start to hear back about ballot places. 

    I've got my first half coming up - Oxford on the 8th Oct. First one back after the foot injury that forced me to defer from VLM 2017. It's going to be slow and steady but looking forward to getting it under my belt and ready to build on it until April. Last year I used an Asics training plan (which no longer appear to be online). Does anyone have any good recommendations for training plans that could start pre-Jan? I used a website called mbition for a free trial which is pretty good as it adjusts based on your feedback from training, but I would have to pay for it going forward and I'm stingy :\

    @akaSovereign I'm a fellow person that uses running to help with depression & anxiety. Congratulations on your charity place with Mind. The fundraising will come nearer the time. My brother had a charity place a couple of years ago and he didn't raise any money until the last week or so before the marathon. Once it gets nearer the event people will be more aware and ready to donate. Perhaps if you regularly post about your training progress on social media, or even set up a blog, that will help pique people's interest. However, I know it can be hard putting yourself out there. Good luck for the Birmingham half in Oct :) 

    Sorry, super long post. 
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  • Ok - so I didnt get a place in the Tokyo ballot for 2018, so at least I dont have to struggle with that choice (London again or Tokyo)...

    Only thing now is *if* the unthinkable happens and I get a ballot place for London '18, would I take it? I cant really afford another trip to UK - but if its a choice between an autumnal Canberra marathon (3000 people) or springtime in London  (40,000 people), I know which one I'd rather be doing!

    For the record running is going *really* well at the moment with 2017 having seen PB's at 3km, 5km, 10km, 21.1km and 42.2km! and I'm chomping at the bit in anticipation for Melbourne Marathon in a little over 2 weeks time. If improvements keep coming i wont *need* a ballot place for London to run it again in future - I'm getting closer and closer to what I previously thought was unthinkable: GFA times! 

    I shouldn't really jinx things - but I'm hoping that I can take a few more minutes off the PB and possibly score a BQ! That would mean it'd be almost exactly 4 years for "Couch2BQ" (and around 10,000km run in that time).
  • Harmander, could you pencil me in for your pacing group in 2018? I think that next year will be my last London and fancy just plodding around enjoying the atmosphere and crowds and let someone else worry about the pace,lol, thanks
  • Big_GBig_G ✭✭✭
    Last year, there was a sneaky way of seeing of you had a ballot place, before the mags came out.  It was something to do with checking emails from VLM and seeing what email lists were included in your email (something like that, anyway).  It seemed to work - well, it worked for me and a few others on here.  Does anyone know if there is anything like that this year? :)  
  • Barneschar - It is a pleasure to keep others spirits up.
    Dave Woods - yes I believe I will be a Blue Start 5:00 hour pacer again (4:58 actually).
    For all others and particularly first timers I will shortly be posting th dates of VLM course familiarisation runs of approximately 7 miles n November (Blue Start to Cutty Sark), 14 miles (Tower Bridge to Finish line plus a bit to MacDonalds on Whitehall) in December and and again in January with the 20 miler (Cutty Sark to Finish line) in March.
    Will be running (and talking) at 12 minute/mile pace each time with the proviso that I get fed a Big Mac Meal as a reward by each of the group that joins me (I accept IOUs) - or a small contribution to a charity of my choice if you think I should not be eating a Big Mac.
    For those waiting to start their training, I suggest that you start asap.
    I have posted a training plan on this forum in the past but feel free to folow a commercial one if you wish - just don't mix the two.
  • Sorry about the typos (th) and (folows)
  • Hi Harmander, thank you very much for this. I won’t be able to join the training runs as I live overseas, but I appreciate the offer. Please would you be able to repost your training plan, or even PM me a copy? I’ve searched but I can’t find it in the forums. Thank you!
  • Migrant,

    This is the short version of the sub 5 hour 24 week training plan - there are classic and a Get You Around (GYA) versions too.

    I have post it in two parts as there is a limit on size of a post.

    24 WEEK SHORT TRAINING PLAN FOR SUB 5 HOUR MARATHON

    WEEK 1

    MON

    Jog 15 mins Walk 10, Jog 5

    WED

    Jog 10 mins, Walk 10, Jog 10

    FRI

    Jog 15 mins, Walk 5, Jog 10

    SUN

    Jog 20 mins  Walk 10, Jog 15

    WEEK 2

    MON

    Jog 15 mins

    WED

    Jog 25 mins, Walk 10, Jog 10

    FRI

    Jog 25 mins, Walk 5, Jog 15

    SUN

    Jog 35 mins, Walk 5, Jog 20

    WEEK 3

    MON

    Jog 20 mins

    WED

    Jog 30 mins, Run 5, Jog 15

    FRI

    Jog 15 mins, Run 10, Jog 15

    SUN

    Jog 40 mins, Run 10, Jog 10

    WEEK 4

    MON

    Jog 20 mins

    WED

    Jog 10 mins, Run 10, Walk 5, Run 5, Jog 10

    FRI

    Jog 25 mins, Run 10, Jog 20

    SUN

    Jog 50 mins, Run 10, Jog 10

    WEEK 5

    MON

    Jog 30 mins

    WED

    Jog 15 mins, Run 10, Jog 5, Run 15, Jog 15

    FRI

    Jog 15 mins, Run 10, Walk 5, Jog 15, Run 10, Jog 15

    SUN

    Jog 60 mins

    WEEK 6

    MON

    Jog 40 mins

    WED

    Jog 15 mins, Run 15, Jog 15, Run 10, Jog 20

    FRI

    Jog 15 mins, Run 15, Jog 10, Run 20, Jog 25, Run 5

    SUN

    Jog 70 mins, Run 15

    WEEK 7

    MON

    Jog 40 mins

    WED

    Jog 5 mins, Run 15 Jog 15, Run 20, Jog 20, Run 20

    FRI

    Jog 5 mins, Run 25, Jog 20, Run 25, Jog 10, Run 25

    SUN

    Jog 75 mins, Run 15

    WEEK 8

    MON

    Jog 40 mins

    WED

    Jog 10 mins, Run 25, Jog 20, Run 30, Walk 5, Jog 25

    FRI

    Jog 60 mins

    SUN

    Jog 20 mins, Run 30, Jog 15, Run  30, Jog 45

    WEEK 9

    MON

    Jog 25 mins

    WED

    Jog 15 mins, Run 30, Jog 15, Run 45, Walk 5, Jog 10,

    FRI

    Jog 70 mins

    SUN

    Jog 10 mins, Run 40, Walk 10, Jog 25, Run 30, Walk 5

    WEEK 10

    MON

    Jog 30 mins

    WED

    Jog 10 mins, Run 45, Jog 15, Run 30, Jog 20, Run 10

    FRI

    Jog 15 mins, Run 45, Jog 45

    SUN

    Jog 5 mins, Run 55, Walk 5, Run 15, Walk 5, Jog 60

    WEEK 11

    MON

    Jog 25 mins

    WED

    Jog 20 mins, Run 60, Walk 5, Run 10, Jog 40

    FRI

    Jog 10 mins, Run 10, Jog 20, Run 20, Jog 20

    SUN

    Jog 25 mins, Run 30, Jog 25, Run 45, Jog 35, Run 10,

    WEEK 12

    MON

    Jog 15 mins, Walk 5, Jog 10

    WED

    Jog 10 mins, Run 60, Jog 30

    FRI

    Jog 45 mins

    SAT

    REST

    SUN

    RACE - Half Marathon.


     PS - WALK IS 15 MINUTES A MILE

    JOG IS 12 MINUTES A MILE

    RUN IS FASTER THAN 11 MINUTES A MILE - AS CLOSE TO 10 MINUTES A MILE FOR RUNS UNDER 2 HOURS.


    HOPE THIS HELPS

  •  PS - WALK IS 15 MINUTES A MILE

    JOG IS 12 MINUTES A MILE

    RUN IS FASTER THAN 11 MINUTES A MILE - AS CLOSE TO 10 MINUTES A MILE FOR RUNS UNDER 2 HOURS.

    HOPE THIS HELPS


    WEEK 13

    MON

    If raced - Rest If not - Jog 30 mins

    WED

    Jog 45 mins

    FRI

    Jog 60 mins

    SUN

    Jog 90 mins

    WEEK 14

    MON

    Jog 30 mins, Walk 5, Run 10, Jog 10

    WED

    Jog 10 mins, Run 25, Jog 20, Run 20, Jog 20

    FRI

    Jog 10 mins, Run 30, Jog 30, Run 15, Jog 45

    SUN

    Jog 100 mins

    WEEK 15

    MON

    Jog 15 mins

    WED

    Jog 45 mins

    FRI

    Jog 10 mins, Run 30, Jog 40, Walk 10, Jog 20

    6UN

    Jog 10 mins, Run 10, Walk 5 Repeat x 5

    WEEK 16

    MON

    Jog 20 mins

    WED

    Jog 20 mins, Run 15, Walk 10, Run 20, Jog 45

    FRI

    Jog 75 mins

    SUN

    Jog 20 mins, Run 20, Walk 5 Repeat x 3

    WEEK 17

    MON

    Jog 20 mins, Walk 10

    WED

    Jog 5 mins, Run 15, Jog 60

    FRI

    Jog 60 mins

    SUN

    Jog 15 mins, Run 45, Jog 100

    WEEK 18

    MON

    REST

    WED

    Jog 45 mins

    FRI

    Jog 60 mins

    SUN

    Jog 90 mins

    WEEK 19

    MON

    Jog 30 mins

    WED

    Jog 10 mins, Run 10, Jog 20, Run 20, Jog 60

    FRI

    Jog 60 mins

    SUN

    Jog 150 mins

    WEEK 20

    MON

    REST

    WED

    Jog 15 mins, Walk 10, Jog 10

    FRI

    Jog 10 mins, Run 10, Jog 10 Repeat x 3

    SUN

    Jog 60 mins

    WEEK 21

    MON

    Jog 45 mins

    WED

    Jog 10 mins, Run 10, Jog 60

    FRI

    Jog 100 mins

    SUN

    Jog 60 mins, Walk 15, Jog 60, Walk 15, Jog 30

    WEEK 22

    MON

    REST

    WED

    Jog 30 mins

    FRI

    Jog 60 mins

    SUN

    Jog 15 mins, Run 45,  3 Repeat x 3

    WEEK 23

    MON

    Walk 15 mins

    WED

    Jog 90 mins, Run 30

    FRI

    Jog 120 mins

    SUN

    Jog 150 mins

    WEEK 24

    MON

    Jog 15 mins, Walk 5, Jog 10

    WED

    Jog 60 mins

    FRI

    Walk 15 mins

    SAT

    REST

    SUN

    RACE

  • Thanks Harmander! Very useful to see a five hour plan instead of the usual speedy ones. Now I just need the “ right”email to come this week.....
  • > @barneschar said:
    > Hey guys. Apologies for my absence after setting this group up wayyy back in April, I've been away for personal reasons not laziness I promise :) Harmander you've done a great job of keeping this thread going through the quiet months until people start to hear back about ballot places. 
    >
    > I've got my first half coming up - Oxford on the 8th Oct. First one back after the foot injury that forced me to defer from VLM 2017. It's going to be slow and steady but looking forward to getting it under my belt and ready to build on it until April. Last year I used an Asics training plan (which no longer appear to be online). Does anyone have any good recommendations for training plans that could start pre-Jan? I used a website called mbition for a free trial which is pretty good as it adjusts based on your feedback from training, but I would have to pay for it going forward and I'm stingy :\
    >
    > @akaSovereign I'm a fellow person that uses running to help with depression & anxiety. Congratulations on your charity place with Mind. The fundraising will come nearer the time. My brother had a charity place a couple of years ago and he didn't raise any money until the last week or so before the marathon. Once it gets nearer the event people will be more aware and ready to donate. Perhaps if you regularly post about your training progress on social media, or even set up a blog, that will help pique people's interest. However, I know it can be hard putting yourself out there. Good luck for the Birmingham half in Oct :) 
    >
    > Sorry, super long post. 

    Thanks :) it just seems like everyone else that is fundraising in a Running group that I am a part of on Facebook gets a lot more support, especially from businesses giving free items for them to raffle off or being able to bag pack in supermarkets, whereas I just seem to be getting a wall of "sorry, we can't help". I've asked 5 different supermarket chains about bag packing for a day, but all have said no. I've promoted my page on Facebook and Twitter, and had likes, retweets, shares, etc but no donations; I know a lot of people have said they will sponsor me closer to the time, but still. I've stopped sharing it for a bit now in the hope that I can get a ballot place to take the pressure off and then go about fundraising a bit more freely and without the weight on my shoulders.

    My training for the last 2 weeks has been pretty bad :/ not going to be a good week this week either as I'm ill. My first Half Marathon is on the 15th, so getting nervous now, then REALLY need to get a plan in place for the marathon, adding some cross training because I have Runner's Knee due to a muscle imbalance.
    I am running the London Marathon 2018 (my first marathon!) for Mind, the mental health charity:
    http://uk.virginmoneygiving.com/MindMarathon
  • Now that entries are beginning to drop, I'm a bit gutted that I decided to wait until 2019 to go for my GFA entry... here's hoping the qualifying time remains the same for then. Well done to everyone who got an entry this time around! Happy training!
  • Thats a no for me again this year :(

    Oh well - never mind eh? I can re-focus my efforts on perhaps a tilt at NYC 2018, Tokyo 2019 and Boston 2020 to complete the big 6!
  • Reality has kicked in for me... I received my GFA acceptance form and mag on Monday morning and I've used my Manchester time to enter Boston as well. So, if all goes to plan, 2018 should bring two marathons within six days of each other... eeek!!! :worried:

    rodeoflip - what was the key to your training for Boston and London?
  • Well done Little Nell,
    I know you asked Rodeoflip - but when I did the same I simply relied on a bit of running practice in between - perhaps not the best ever answer to a question I was not asked but I just couldn't resist.
    in 2014, I was guide running at London and did 5:32:27 then did Boston in 4:50:01
    With the Hillingdon Challenge Marathon yesterday my
    YTD = 2269.37
  • Little Nell - as Harmander says - simply do a little practice in between to keep the legs turning over. Train for the first race and then rely on that for the second. I did the other way round - London then Boston - and very quickly into Boston i knew PB wasnt on so enjoyed it - ran 3:06 then 3:20 - enjoy Boston, that finish is so emotional.
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