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No idea about buses in Brighton I'm afraid. All I did read though is that the race organisers changed the courses specifically so the main bus route could continue to run throughout the day. So that should help coming from Hove I expect.
You are obviously aiming for sub 3 in Brighton? Me too!
In terms of importance is
1) get the run done
2) get the distance in
3) Icing on the cake if you can is speed up last few miles close to MP
In my first few marathons in training i could not do 3) as I was far too knakered by the end of the run, now I can but still hard work.
corr sub 3, you're in different league to me. My best is 3.51 but I'm confident I can do sub 3.30 (hmm confidentish anyway), anything more is a bonus
Doing bramley 20 miler next weekend which should give good indication of where I am
I'm also doing cranleigh 15/21 3 weeks before brighton - I'm getting conflicting advice
Option 1: Do 15 hard
Option 2: Do 21 easy but with hard last 5
I'm thinking 2, my plan has been fairly fluid (as much running as poss with at least one speed session and one long run each week)
best of luck everyone
Richard
3 weeks out it should not really matter how hard you run this BUT, it is fast miles at the end of a race which trash your muscles, so if you want to preserve yourself do not run the last miles hard.
when I run marathons close together and target the 2nd marathon i run the last miles easy.
Sounds like a sensible plan? I started my marathon training back In November after I failed to make the start line of the Dublin marathon. All has been going well. I'm hitting 60 miles a week at the moment and the legs are holding up nicely. I'm racing this Sunday in a 10 mile race which I plan in running at 6:20 pace. Then in March I have a half marathon so should know by then what my target time will be.
Cheers
Al
mtbdee - you take the flu and i will do your miles...:)
I did bramley 20 miles yesterday in 2.31 - ran an awful second half, no way I would have been able to do 6 more miles, started too quickly and just clung on at end. So feeling a bit down on my poor execution but overall pleased with the time.
Very busy diary means a need to snatch a few miles over next couple of weeks and then will be trying a 23 miler on 25th Feb, not a race so intend to pace it much better, then 18th march is the only date I can do another long run, but even that is looking shakey.
How was everyone else's weekend running? was lovely morning for it on sunday, but very glad i didn't need to run on saturday, weather was awful.
Now, I'm worried that I'm over-cooking my long runs. I'm up to 16 miles running at 7.55 per mile pace. It's tiring on the muscles especially as I live in Surrey and I can't train without some nasty hills. I rest the next day and then the day after I am fine for a quality 10k at 6.45 pace.
I wanted to aim for 3.20 in the marathon, so 7.37 pace. Do you think it's a good idea to dial down the pace of my long runs? I was thinking of going as low as 8.15 pace.
I will also get four long runs of 20+ miles before going for a two week taper. Do you think this is enough to hit my goal time for the marathon itself?
Thanks for any help.
I have found marathon distance to be a bit of a leveller esp for first timers, ran with a few guys last year who were tackling 26.2 for the first time and even though over 10k or half distances they would leave me behind easily ended up finishing about 20mins before most of them.
Good luck.
CR2 - with a Parkrun time of 18.30 I would say that 8 mpm pace for your long run is about right actually but taking off another 15 seconds from that won't impact your race on the day. I've recently done some half marathon distance training runs at marathon pace which is mainly for mental training not physical. And yes you are right in that it will take longer to recover from a speedy long run. My strategy now for my 18+ long run will be to start steady about 45 seconds under Marathon pace for 5-8 miles then pick up pace to race pace for 5 miles then slow it down to the end. I run a long the canal for these runs so no hills to factor in. You should obviously factor that in to your long run and is good training anyway so don't avoid the hills.
Anyone got any races this weekend? Good luck if you have. I'm running the MK half on Sunday to try and see where I am fitness wise. I also need to improve the 'evidence' of my predicted finish time to Brighton organisers as my current power of ten doesn't suggest I'm capable of running a sub 3.30 at the moment because I haven't trained and raced properly for 5 years. So I need a sub 1.30 tomorrow to satisfy the Brighton organisers otherwise they may stick me at the back with the fancy dress brigade! Haha.
The pace of your long run does not really matter but should be easy for the first 50-75% (8:00-8:30 min miles) and then speed up in the later part of the run to closer to MP pace (around 7:40 min miles).
Bad case of flu for me and no running for 3 weeks now.....
My marathon specific training has been very poor to say the least but luckily I have a career that means I do some form of demanding exercise most days so I have a good base level of fitness. I have been throwing sporadic runs in on top of this when I get the chance. So far my milage hasn't exceeded 25 a week which I think will be my downfall on the day.
I cracked out a 40.11 10k a couple of days ago on the lanes which I was pretty happy with and I have done a couple of slow halfs over the past couple of months with another planned for tomorrow.
My goal for the next 5 weeks is to increase my milage from 25 to 35+ then bring it right back down a week or two before the race. Race day my target is 03:30 but I'll be content under 3:45 if things go tits up because of my lack of milage. You guys think that's reasonable?
a 40 min 10k is impressive and would suggest a 3:20 marathon time, but as you say <25 miles a week is not enough to run a constant quick pace for 26 miles. as you say if you can get that mileage to 35 for a 4-6 weeks then it will make a massive difference. my first few marathons we about 35 miles a week, and it was enough to get round pretty well, but would not like to try on 25 miles a week.
I think your target of 3:30-3:45 sounds about right. Concentrate on those longs runs mainly.
you will enjoy the day more.
Well done on the half disco stu
> CR2, your times are almost identical to mine (apart from 5k) and i run marathons in around 3:10-3:20, so looks like your predicted time is about right.
> The pace of your long run does not really matter but should be easy for the first 50-75% (8:00-8:30 min miles) and then speed up in the later part of the run to closer to MP pace (around 7:40 min miles).
> Bad case of flu for me and no running for 3 weeks now.....
Thanks Fat Boy. Still hoping to hit my target of 3:20. I did a 19 mile long run at 8 min mile pace this week which left me very achy and I'm pretty sure I will have to take down the pace for at least half of my next 20 mile long run otherwise it will start to affect my other workouts. Also ran a hard half marathon and took my PB below 1:28 so the training is doing me some good. The next aim is also to get around a long run without needing to take a pee halfway around.
So interested what the range of weekly mileage is for you guys in your prep for Brighton?
Good luck with everyones weekend long run.
I'm hoping to toe the line this year having picked up an injury 4 weeks before the day in 2007.
I was in pretty good shape last year and was targeting c. 3:05 although I'm not sure how I would have coped with the heat.
UDS - I'm hoping there is still 5 weeks left! Sounds like your training has gone really well. The miles might be low but at least you've got a reasonable number of long runs in. Being bereft of natural speed, high volume works for me, so I've been averaging 60-75 miles over the last 13 weeks.
Question for you all. Just wondering how many gels are you taking on long runs? I take one every 5 miles which seems to be working .
Good luck with all the long runs tomorrow ?
Is it really 5 weeks SBD? Damn you are right. These 31 day months always catch me out. I've been planning for 4 so gotta do more running now. Hope I don't peak too early but at my mileage that's very unlikely.
I personally don't think you should not run all your long runs at MP, you shouldn't even run the majority at MP.
Mine are all run at about 1mm slower than MP but as others have said, I sometimes close out the last 2-3 miles / 20-30 mins progressively up to as fast as 10k pace.
I think you need to do some of your long runs slow (build endurance and teach body to burn fat) but you also need to add MP efforts so I also did a few where I added sessions in such as 2 x 30 mins at MP / 5 min recovery amongst others - I paid for a training plan from a coach so I am not sure he would appreciate me sharing all of the efforts but they all involved intervals at MP).
You can run your long run too fast, you can run all your training sessions too fast but that is really the only session you need to really push it. I am running recovery runs and easy runs in between long and intervals and these are never faster than 45s per mile slower than MP unless I add strides or close out a medium run.