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Hard Training - Dawn (Hilly)

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    JEvaNsJEvaNs ✭✭✭
    And can I just add, 4:50am and running by 5am. It's the only way to be! (that way being SHATTERED! but I love it)
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    When's Longleat 10k? Would the family get free passes to the lions etc? It could be a family day out. Normally a 2 hour drive would be OTT for a 10k, but......
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    cealceal ✭✭✭
    hilly good luck in your 10k tomorrow. I think it is tomorrow! I shall be racing a 5 miler at the same time.
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    HillyHilly ✭✭✭
    Hi Jen, I'm sure you'll enjoy Snowdon. It's on my list of ones to to!

    blisters-it's on 9th of Feb. It'll take me 1½ hrs to get to, but it sounds a good one to do and I like to do at least one new race a year. Might see you there then?

    ceal-the race is next Sunday, but I couldn't get an entry (left it too late and my friend who offered me her number, as it's a race where you can transfer, had got rid of it because at first I said no. That'll teach me! So now I'm going to have to wait until Boxing Day and do the cold 'Round the Lakes' at Poole Park. It's flat, but it's 4 times round the lake and if it's windy and cold....Brrrr!
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    cealceal ✭✭✭
    Oh bad luck hilly.
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    Hi Jen, Yes Woburn is one of our events too, looks like we specialise in doing races around safari parks as we also organise a run and bike ride at Port Lympne Wild Animal Park in Kent....it's reaaly all come out of charity connections, but the venues make for good races. Woburn was very windy on the day of the race last year, it's fairly undulating but I wouldn't say it was a particularly tough course - Spencer Barden did the Rhino Run 10km we organised there in Oct in a few seconds over 30 mins.

    I'm still working on the training guide Hilly, but don't think my life story is interesting enough to write a book about - hopefully interesting enough for the occasional magazine article and to share on the forum.
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    cealceal ✭✭✭
    That's your opinion Mike!
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    Hello all (hello Mike!)

    I've just introduced Mike's new Marathon thread in the FLM folder. Very scary...

    It's right here

    Thanks Mike - it will be a fantastic read

    Sean
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    HillyHilly ✭✭✭
    Oh I don't know Mike, it would be good to read how you went from 'normal' runner if you ever were(?) to elite and winning FLM and other achievements. It could be based on the 'steps' it took to get to winning FLM. Lots of 'ordinary' runners out there who would read it I'm sure!:o)

    Just been on your new FLM thread, at the moment all I can think of is WOW that was some training!:o)
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    I think that will come out in the training book Hilly as it will by its nature be based on my experience.

    In a nutshell, I was pretty good from an early age. When I was 12 I ran 800 in about 2.10 to finish 2nd in the British Forces Schools Germany champs and sub 60 for 400 (I also finished 3rd against the local army teams in an orienteering race, which must have looked odd cos at 12 I was a tiny kid against fully grown squadies).

    At 13, having moved to Folkestone from our miltary home in Germany and joined a club I finished 144th in the English Schools XC, progress was gradual from then and I won the English schools 5000m in my last year after being around 6th or 7th consistently over 1500m. 3 yrs at teacher training college didn't help progress much, but I ran with Brighton & Hove and trained with Steve Ovett while I was there. It wasn't until I moved to Canterbeury with my first teaching job that I made any progress - and it was basically that the runners at the club there (Invicta) were all preparing to run a marathon at Essone near Paris - I did all the heavy mileage with them and decided at the last minute to run it - I did 2.21 and the rest, as they say, is history.
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    HillyHilly ✭✭✭
    When is the book out Mike?

    I was a good teenage runner, not quite as good as you though!!!:o) I often wonder what I would've achieved had I not given up and started smoking etc!

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    I was aiming at getting it out for Xmas - maybe FLM Expo. It's getting the time to get things done at the moment.
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    The book you are referring to above Mike - take it that is different from the one you were talking about earlier by John Bryant.

    Simon
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    Yep Simon, Johns will be a history of LM - mine will be about training for road running. I might just happen to mention LM a few times though!
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    HillyHilly ✭✭✭
    I look forward to getting both books!

    Simon-can you recommend some good autobiographies or other running type books, seeing as you've read a few?
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    hilly - Going back to 1 Dec - Representing a country with less competition for places.
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    HillyHilly ✭✭✭
    90 mins-I had to go a few pages to remind myself what you were on about. But with it now!:o)

    Did you get a picture from Cheddar? I got a sample one with me, you and yl running together. Don't think i'm going to buy it though.
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    What? You don't want a framed picture of YL & I to grace your mantlepiece?

    I got that one & another of me somewhere on my own.
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    HillyHilly ✭✭✭
    Well I might get it!:o)

    The quality of the pics last time I did Cheddar were very good. In fact the one on this thread was from Cheddar.
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    Hilly,

    Have tended to enjoy most biographies of marathoners and the ones I have enjoyed most have been the Ron Hill two set books, the Bill Adcocks and Bill Rogers books. Also really enjoyed the Steve Ovett biography. Most with exception of the adcocks book out of print so ordered from abe books. Also really enjoyed the fell running book feet in the clouds. Read also Joan Samuleson Benoit but enjoyed less and a few others Coe, Cram, Jim Alder etc. Hated every word of the Liz Mcolgan biogrpahy, the Ovett book by Simon Turnbull and the Zatopek book.


    Simon
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    HillyHilly ✭✭✭
    Thanks Simon. I tried a search for Ron Hill books, but no luck! Where did you get yours? Also, why did you hate every word of Liz Mcolgan?
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    Hilly,

    Have a look at the bookfinder.com site or abebooks.com. On abe books you can set up a wants list and often just a case of waiting ill the book you are looking fo comes up at a price you are willing to pay.

    Both the Mcolgan book and Simon Turnbull's book on Ovett were biographies written by people who had no access to the ethlete and as such were bland and really did not give you any insight into the training or the person. Completely opposite to the Hill, Adcocks and Rogers books.

    Simon
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    HillyHilly ✭✭✭
    Thanks for that, I'm looking forward to a nice lot of reading in the next year!
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    One other book I really enjoyed also was running with the buffaloes. Superbly written about a season with the x-country team of Colorado University.
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    HillyHilly ✭✭✭
    That sounds interesting. I've written all these books down. That's a lot of reading you've done this year:o)
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    A lot of time Hilly as have had nearly 7 months with no running and 2-3 months with low distance only buildign back up from injury. One more for your list Running with the legends by Michael Sandrock. Superb 400-500 pages covering the training and racing insights of 21 great runners male and female.

    Simon
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    HillyHilly ✭✭✭
    Definitely like the sound of that one! It must have been a very frustrating time!
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    cealceal ✭✭✭
    Hi MikeG & hilly,

    I completed my trio of races yesterday and finished with a bag of PB's, so I am one happy ceal. But rather tired, I must say. I think it was expecting a lot of myself to target 3 races in a row, with one in the middle being a 10 miler, but I got there and that is what I was aiming for. Next target race Reading Half in March, just lots of hard training to fit in before then!!!!!!!! Thanks for your advice Mike and your encouragement hilly.
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    cealceal ✭✭✭
    hilly I sent the above posting before I saw your posting on Over 60's thread. We posted within minutes of each other on same subject, it must be great minds think alike!!!! Thanks again for your good wishes.
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    HillyHilly ✭✭✭
    Of course ceal!:o)

    You deserve those PB's, well done. More to come next year you wait and see!:o)
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