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Hi all. First post, new runner, and like it says on the tin, running seems to make you lose weight.
The drawback is, I don't want to lose weight, I'm too skinny as it is! I'm a 36 year old veggie and don't tend to put on much fat. Just gone down from 60 kilos (5 foot 8 male) to 59, so not too drastic yet. I tried (and love) beer, but these days every pint I drink seems to be the bottom of a barrel, so I've given that a rest too :-( I don't know if vodka contributes to weight gain very much.
Am I just missing the obvious by not joining a gym to gain muscle weight? I guess it'll have to be muscle to be useful, but I love the freedom of running without all that equipment, or the need to join any clubs or groups, so I'm really resistant to joining a gym, though I've never been to one. I've just re-read that sentence and realise it sounds like some people are running around with gym equipment on their backs - and I'm certainly not going to do that either.
Just wondered if any one had any tips, maybe in change of diet or is it going to be down to building up muscle, and if so, what's best to do at home.
I'm not after a great physique, I'm just concerned that my watch stays on my wrist!
Thank you all!
The drawback is, I don't want to lose weight, I'm too skinny as it is! I'm a 36 year old veggie and don't tend to put on much fat. Just gone down from 60 kilos (5 foot 8 male) to 59, so not too drastic yet. I tried (and love) beer, but these days every pint I drink seems to be the bottom of a barrel, so I've given that a rest too :-( I don't know if vodka contributes to weight gain very much.
Am I just missing the obvious by not joining a gym to gain muscle weight? I guess it'll have to be muscle to be useful, but I love the freedom of running without all that equipment, or the need to join any clubs or groups, so I'm really resistant to joining a gym, though I've never been to one. I've just re-read that sentence and realise it sounds like some people are running around with gym equipment on their backs - and I'm certainly not going to do that either.
Just wondered if any one had any tips, maybe in change of diet or is it going to be down to building up muscle, and if so, what's best to do at home.
I'm not after a great physique, I'm just concerned that my watch stays on my wrist!
Thank you all!
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101kg myself so not a big prob for me
To put on weight you'll need to consume more calories than you're burning off running. If you do consume the right calories and continue exercising you shouldn;t gain too much fat. As a veggie it's hard to get the protein which you need to build muscle and repair muscles from your running so a protein shake or meal replacement shake might help there. You will not build much muscle just doing body resistance exercises because you will reach a point where you need to increase resistance to build muscle. On the other hand you don't have to kill yourself in the gym - just do a basic workout 2-3 times per week but you do need to lift weights to build muscle. It would also help your running ! Also, try and avoid running on an empty stomach first thing in the morning if you want to keep your weight up. You are lucky after all as it sounds like you have a fast metabolism. Also depends what distances you are running. Generally the longer runs will burn more calories then shorter interval types so you may need to change your training if weight gain is a goal.
thanks for the tips (and sorry, I've just changed my nickname - it looked a bit bare!).
I've started protein replacements - I'd say the rest of my diet is pretty good, and I'm currently running about 45k per week, albeit slowly. The HRM I got recently is telling me I'm burning 560 calories a run, which sounds like too much! Apart from that 1 kilo loss, feeling great.
Mij, if you're looking for protein replacements, then I'm sure you've already found Tofu (better and cheaper than Quorn) although it can be a bit tasteless unless you bung it in a spicy and quick stir fry. Even better is Tempeh, and packed with protein and vitamins, but that's hard to get hold of (in Oxford anyway). Both are soya based natural products. Of course there are mushrooms, and if she eats dairy, then cheese etc are standard protein foods for veggies. Honestly I've been veggie for years, apart from the occasional meat-for-politeness at people's houses, and haven't fainted once while exercising!
Derminsaudi, Perhaps I should think about shorter faster runs, but I've quite enjoyed leisurely long trips along canals and rivers and been following the advice here about building up endurance first. Until last autumn I only ran very very occasionally, but cycled a fair bit (8 miles a day commuting). This did build up my thighs, but I no longer need the commute and my thighs have thinned again. Maybe I shouldn't have been surprised that running a long way slowly doesn't build up any muscles - you can see it from distance runners' body shapes. So yes, perhaps I'd better get a bit faster on shorter runs.
The morning run thing is good to note - I always wondered about that - it seems more time efficient only having to have one shower a day ;-) but I never could see how people could run as well after a gap of up to 11 hours since food. I was running in the evenings last year, and it was a great way to relieve the stress of a day at work. On the other hand the morning runs are so quiet and it's been beautiful watching the sun rise over the riverside here (I must be going too slowly - no time to watch the scenery!). So maybe I'll try going back to well-fed evening runs.
I'll also get myself a set of dumbells and keep up the press-ups etc. Doing it at home always makes me feel a bit Travis Bickle (Taxi Driver) like, but I haven't been to Vietnam so I should be ok!
Thanks again,
A
Hills - hmm, that's why I started having to run so far - it takes me half an hour to run to the nearest hill, so I'd probably be exhaused. Hey, I could bike it, doh!
OOh, I'm beginning to look forward to this :-) However, my photo seems to have disappeared.
Chocolate spread on brioche was the one thing I was trying not to think about, and now I have cravings like you wouldn't believe. grrrrrr.
Only kidding.
Do the half hour run/bike as a warm up, then say 5 reps at a decent lick (dont blow up, but be nicely toasted by the end), then warm down home! Piece of cake (doh!)
;-)
Funnily enough, that hill rep sounds exactly like what a friend of mine does, and he does have thighs like balloons (except they don't pop). I'd be doing it on the exact same hill too.
And you can't tempt me - I saw brioche and chocolate spread AND jaffa cakes in the shop the other day, and managed to avoid them all.
Though the security guards said I was very hard to restrain. Until they coshed me.
Ho humm
Right - I'll let you know how I get on.
So far I've got calf raises, chin ups, press ups, dumbell stuff, chocolate spread, protein powder, hill runs in the evening, shorter runs. Definitely glad I posted this one, thanks all!
And if the pressups aren't doing it for you - try extreme range ones - Feet on one chair, one arm each on another 2, and pressup. The bottom is when your chest is between the chairs. More difficult, but it gives you a better range of motion and more strength.
Good luck luna
So to put weight on I have to stop running. Forget about it.
Having eaten veg, veg, and more veg and constantly struggling with walking past the confectionary, I hate you.
(kidding)
This would gave a calorific range of the required calories need to be consumed to maintain current body weight
A Person looking to loose weight would aim to eat at (or just below) the lower end of this range
A Person looking to gain weight would aim to eat at (or just above) the upper end of this range
And the diet should always be a balanced maintainable one and avoid the risk to over eat on one particular food group (loosing weight shouldn’t cut out food groups)
But more seriously, about worrying about weight, it's true I've always had the reverse envy - wanting to be a bit bulkier / burlier but never quite managing it. I think I probably do burn fat off quickly, and have a generally small appetite. Maybe I'm wrong, but there aren't many occasions when being a small-framed man is considered a good thing. We should all just be happy with our size, as long as we feel fit. Guess it all goes back to school - uh oh, I think I'd better lie down on that couch over there, hang on!
Everyone really is so polite here, it's such a change from the BBC forums, heh.
Have you looked into VO2 max? There is relative VO2 max which is expressed in mlO2/min/kg so therefore the lighter you are the easier it is to have a higher VO2 max. Having a high relative VO2 max is useful where the resistance is gravity eg. running. Absolute VO2 max is actual oxygen you can use and to have a high absolute VO2 max would be useful where the resistance is not gravity eg. rowing. Matthew Pinsent apparently has the biggest lung capacity of anyone in Britain at 8 litres. But he's not too good at running.
VO2 - no, don't know anything about that, I'll look into it.
Slainte- ah, Guinness, it's true, I wouldn't get my trouble with off-beer so often. If only it was cheaper over here - though there's a Sam Smiths pub nearby and their stout is nice.
There's no real need for me to gain a lot of weight I guess - unlike that poor paralympic judo athlete who had to gain something like 20k to go up a category! I think I've always wondered if it would help my stamina and basic fitness though if I had more weight on me.
Now I just like the sound of all those chocolate brioches and pints of Guinness. Maybe I can start a new running club - thanks folks!
My main tip for weight gain is to keep plenty of food in the house you really like (sounds obvious, but if there's stuff that's really tempting, you're much more likely to eat it instead of trying to 'find' meals). Oh, and to eat out whenever the opportunity presents itself - pret does a load of healthy but great food..
Good luck
SoC
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