BR I’ve recently bought NB900 after realising the prescribed orthotics and unstable mattresses masquerading as running shoes were causing more problems than they were solving. I haven’t done much running in them yet as I’m trying to get rid of an achilles problem caused by the aforementioned articles. I’m a natural forefoot striker and they are flat enough to accommodate this style, @ approximately 280g you may consider them slightly heavy for racing.
BTW, I was wearing Saucony fast twitch endurance trainers in my pics, which are lightweight performance shoes. I have to have some stability/cushioning due to my back problems.
How about the new Nike Air Zoom Streak Racer? It's Nike's lightest shoe (except for the Mayfly) and looks like it hasn't got too much of a heel. I noticed that Tergat used them in his recent 59:00 half.
Huw I am going to run the FLM in the Nike Air Zoom Streak Racer. I tried them out on a 21 mile training run on Sunday with no probs. My size 9s weigh in at 220g.
How about the Mizuno Wave Spacer, I have raced in a pair of Mizuno wave Ekidens, allow you to keep on the forefoot and the cushioning is adequate if when tired you slip onto your heels. The Wave Spacer looks a similar profile to the Ekidens.
John Douglas: I've never tried them myself but I've read that Puma H streets are suitable for midfoot running. On closer inspection, I was concerned about their durability . Not that it really matters PumaH are heavier then NB150s (NB150s weigh in at 135g I think).
I don't do pose, JD, but I do run midfoot. I find running in the 150s most of the time ingrains the good habits so when I switch to the Ekidens I'm still avoiding heel striking.
nrg-b - I've done 238 miles in one pair of H-Streets and 128 in the other (not that I'm counting!). The soles have worn smooth in a couple of spots but that's not exactly an issue when they've got next to no grip anyway.
Some of the stitching is a little frayed on the most used pair but that's about as bad as it gets. I'd expect them to last as long as the NB150s.
Actually, I'll have to report back on the comparative durability of H-Streets, NB150s, Nike Jarowe Waffels and Teva Protons when I've managed to run each to destruction. And if my Protons and 150s were in the house I'd do a quick weight comparison. Maybe tomorrow - watch this space with baited breath...
ah NB150s, wonder why they stopped making them - wish i'd got into running earlier and bought 20 pairs of them. I looked at NB RC 750s racing flats in the sweatshop yesterday, very light but had a bit of a heel on them.
nrg-b i've read that puma H streets are great for mid-foot. but maybe a little too thin for running offroad. whilst the canal path i run on isn't exactly full-on off road, i'm still a little hesitant to wear them.
do you reckon any racing flat would be suitable for mid-foot striking?
John - as long as the midsole and heel are not overly large. I wouldn't particularly recommend H-Streets for off-road if it's the sort of surface where grip matters - they haven't got any.
We could always start a petition for NB to reintroduce the 150...
grip isn't a problem on the offroad bit i do. just worried i'll break a bone with very thin cushioning. but given the shoes are so cheap it doesn't matter too much if they end up not being used i guess.
it's amazing that no replacement was brought out for nb150s. just saw a picture of them and none of the new balance shoes i've seen now has such little heel cushioning.
I don't run POSE, no. Didn't enjoy running that way. POSE is just one way of running mid-foot.
Just lean forward, land at the rear of your balls and take it from there :-) I find this more natural than POSE, where you're flicking your heels up all the time.
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Maybe Hilly is using photoshop to cure the overstriding that you commented on. Watch that space!
I’ve recently bought NB900 after realising the prescribed orthotics and unstable mattresses masquerading as running shoes were causing more problems than they were solving. I haven’t done much running in them yet as I’m trying to get rid of an achilles problem caused by the aforementioned articles. I’m a natural forefoot striker and they are flat enough to accommodate this style, @ approximately 280g you may consider them slightly heavy for racing.
Hope the new pic's style meets your approval:o)
Probably too heavy for you but the Nike Marathoner has become a very popular shoe.
Have sold quite a few for London!
Size 9 is 246g
http://www.startfitness.co.uk/acatalog/Nike-ZoomStreakRacer-307617-801.htm
I am going to run the FLM in the Nike Air Zoom Streak Racer. I tried them out on a 21 mile training run on Sunday with no probs. My size 9s weigh in at 220g.
How about the Mizuno Wave Spacer, I have raced in a pair of Mizuno wave Ekidens, allow you to keep on the forefoot and the cushioning is adequate if when tired you slip onto your heels. The Wave Spacer looks a similar profile to the Ekidens.
I've just bought a pair of Wave Spacers. They feel very light and speedy (210g). Am christening them in a 5k on Friday
Also, now that the NB150s are no longer available, what would the closest currently available NB be? or closest shoe by another manufacturer.
Quite a few people now wear the Puma H-Streets. There's a thread on gear somewhere if you do a search.
what do you reckon of nike ekidens? good for pose?
Some of the stitching is a little frayed on the most used pair but that's about as bad as it gets. I'd expect them to last as long as the NB150s.
Actually, I'll have to report back on the comparative durability of H-Streets, NB150s, Nike Jarowe Waffels and Teva Protons when I've managed to run each to destruction. And if my Protons and 150s were in the house I'd do a quick weight comparison. Maybe tomorrow - watch this space with baited breath...
Puma H-Street - Blue: 115g
Puma H-Street - Grey: 128g (must be that little bit of foam under the arch)
Nike Jarowe Waffle: 154g
(all size 10)
nrg-b i've read that puma H streets are great for mid-foot. but maybe a little too thin for running offroad. whilst the canal path i run on isn't exactly full-on off road, i'm still a little hesitant to wear them.
do you reckon any racing flat would be suitable for mid-foot striking?
anyone got any experience of NB RC750's?
We could always start a petition for NB to reintroduce the 150...
it's amazing that no replacement was brought out for nb150s. just saw a picture of them and none of the new balance shoes i've seen now has such little heel cushioning.
Paul bought up all the 150s...
They're way too tight for me, despite size 11 being the size I've bought everything else in!
Now running in size 12 RC750's. Very good.
Feels might strange to run mid-foot after 3 years of bashing my heels.
750's are still reasonably light, but have more protection on the heel, which is reassuring.
bryan - don't suppose you run pose style in the RC750s? although i'm still a bit unclear as to the exact difference between pose and midfoot.
I don't run POSE, no. Didn't enjoy running that way. POSE is just one way of running mid-foot.
Just lean forward, land at the rear of your balls and take it from there :-) I find this more natural than POSE, where you're flicking your heels up all the time.