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I thought it would be interesting to add a little twist to Fridays session thread. In order to assist in Mondays expected post mortem it would be interesting if Sundays racers gave us a time prediction. What we want is:
1. Dream time: the best you can hope for given perfect conditions and feeling great on the day.
2. Acceptable time: one that you would be quite happy with and a fair reflection of training build up.
3. Disappointed: needs no explanation.
I think a range is acceptable under each category but for the experienced runners (you know who you are!) range should be 1 minute (e.g. "half marathon between 1:24 and 1:25) beginners and first timers five minutes ranges acceptable.
Back to the thread.
Last nights session was 40 minutes run outside - as usual taking things relatively easy so as not to disturb the delicate equilibrium I've achieved with my knee. Temperatures have plumeted again so it was very icy.
Today: Probably rest
Why: Feel tired and no rest so far this week.
Last rest day: last Thursday
Last hard day: N/A
Best of luck to all racers this weekend - look forward to those race reports.
1. Dream time: the best you can hope for given perfect conditions and feeling great on the day.
2. Acceptable time: one that you would be quite happy with and a fair reflection of training build up.
3. Disappointed: needs no explanation.
I think a range is acceptable under each category but for the experienced runners (you know who you are!) range should be 1 minute (e.g. "half marathon between 1:24 and 1:25) beginners and first timers five minutes ranges acceptable.
Back to the thread.
Last nights session was 40 minutes run outside - as usual taking things relatively easy so as not to disturb the delicate equilibrium I've achieved with my knee. Temperatures have plumeted again so it was very icy.
Today: Probably rest
Why: Feel tired and no rest so far this week.
Last rest day: last Thursday
Last hard day: N/A
Best of luck to all racers this weekend - look forward to those race reports.
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Hope you're feeling better Drew.
Laura and everyone else running Helsby - Good Luck! Actually, maybe those of us not running should predict everyone else's times. Laura - I think you were aiming for 1:45? But given that you've done so much quality training I think you'll run faster than that - around 1:39-1:41.
Today: 6 miles brisk
Why: Feelin' good (not following any training programme while I'm still on horse-strength antibiotics)
Last hard: yesterday. Yet more calf-deep snow, and a blizzard. Oh yes, and prior to that, 40 minutes shovelling snow from our apartment's steps and pathways. Think this counts as cross training as I was shattered afterwards! We have these huge heavy duty snow shovels to shift the snow around which weigh about 20 kg!
Last rest: Saturday
What-Rest
Why-Cos I am just about to leave for a meeting 120miles away and wont be back till about 9pm
last hard Wed
Last rest Mon
I dont race so no predictions from me
Until it gets grey/black, gritty, icy and miserable.
What: Nothing, just pool, exercises only, and Pilates class.
Not sure whether yesterdays poor effort marked just a one off bad day or a threatened return of the lurgy. Shall take things quietly and hope. I'll run tomorrow and Sunday if all goes well. Only if.
Have fun this weekend folks.
why: 4 days straight deserve a rest
no race on the weekend but long run on saturday will be an eye opener
what; rest after 90 min endurance session at gym was bored out of mind
why: woouldn't you
last rest: Tues
last hard session: Mon
Yes, thanks for reminding me about the "othwe website" laura. I'm with Lizzy on yr time prediction, having seen yr training and learned that ladies are better at stamina and blokes are better at speed ;-) then I'm sure you'll beat me to sub 1:40. I'm also suspicious of your Mike S who, if he gets the taper right could well surpise himself - I think he's got a side bet on.
LizzyB - those big snow shovels - you just push them, you don't pick them up even the real godzilla would struggle there!
Like Martin H I look forward to those reports
Why: Recovery, duh
Last Hard: Thursday
Last Rest: Monday
XC League Race this weekend, will give position references rather than times, as the course length is unknown...
Dream Pos: Top 10
Accepted Pos: Top 18
Dissapointed: Higher than 20
Didnt run yesterday, but went for a shorter run this morning instead.
What: 2.8 mile run (slow)
Why: Been eating lots the last few days in the expectation of doing a long run yesterday. Since that didn't happen, need to make up the distance over the weekend.
Last hard: Tuesday
Last Rest: Thursday
Decided not to race this weekend because if I did, it would take me all morning.
Will race at the Bramley 10.
what: zilch
why: H minus 2 and counting
last hard(ish) day: Tue
last long(ish) day: Sun
last rest day: Mon
sfh - flattered! - I obviously have the ability to talk (or imply) a good race....
When reality intrudes in about 49 hours time....in what looks likely to be quite decent conditions....
dream time: 84 mins or less
pleased with: 84:00-84:59
acceptable: 85:00-85:59
disappointed: 86:00-86:79
disaster: outside 87:00
but what do I know? I haven't raced this distance for almost half a lifetime.
Star forumite performance will come from Laura, who I fancy for sub 98:00 or even better
Best of luck to all those racing at the weekend. Now I've got a bit of a quandry today so I'm going to put both sessions down and decide on them later
What 1: out and back speed session
What 2: Longish 7-8miler
Why : Well why not
Last Hard : Tuesday
Last Rest : Sat
What: nowt
Why: day 1 of mini-taper prior to Sundays race
Last hard run: Yesterday
Last rest day: Today.
In the spirit of Martin H's request:
Folksworth 15
Dream time: sub-1:33:45
Pleased with: 1:33:45 - 1:35:00
Acceptable: 1:35:00 - 1:37:30
Disappointed: 1:37:30 - 1:40:00
Total disaster: > 1:40:00
However, I've never raced a 15 miler in my life and I'm not certain of my fitness level after Christmas just yet.
Why: Watford Half and Connemara Marathon are both hilly
Last rest: Yesterday active rest - 3 to four hours body balance
Last hard: today
Last easy: weds
Just had physio and massage - need new trainers as I've started to over pronate - but no injuries
Laura will defo do a pb at Helsby - good luck!
MM - where does the 1:33:45 come from?
As for time, anywhere between 2-2.30hrs will do me, just want to enjoy the race.
MM - good luck with the 15 mile race.
Just think of it as a halfM with a mile warm up and a mile warm down (at race pace)...
As for me today is a rest day, first since last weekend,and I'm planning a long run (16 miles or so) on Sunday.
Not racing again until February, which is quite hectic: 8mile multi Terrain Grim,Meon Valley x-c over 19.5 miles and the Bramley 20miler......
Not making any predictions just yet.....
Have a good weekend everyone.
Very touched by your expressions of faith in me! Have superstitious fear that having banged on about this race for so long I'll fall flat on my face.
Mike, your preparation has been meticulous (and by the way, that's made me try to prepare a bit better than my usual each-day-as-it-comes attitude, thanks!) and I'm certain it will pay off, sub 84 for you, assuming the gales and lashing rain that was here overnight doesn't hover over Helsby on Sunday.
MM, best of luck with you 15 miler, have worked out where Folksworth is now, should have known as I used to live not a million miles away.
So,
Dream time: 1.40-1.41
Very pleased 1.41-1.42.59
Acceptable: 1.43-1.44.59
Sulk for a week: 1.45-1.47
Burn my trainers and join WI: 1.48 plus
Therefore:
What: rest.
Why: determined to taper properly
Last hard: Wed
Last rest: Tues
Have a good day all.
Stickless, hope you get out and enjoy some running over the weekend, am in awe of your determination never to give up and be in a wheelchair (read your 'if I wasn't running' thread)
What: 5 Miles Easy
Why: Didn't want to overdo it before Sundays Race
Last Hard Mondays speed session
Last Rest Wednesday
RACE DARTFORD 10 MILER (Realative Beginner)
Dream Time: Sub 80 Minutes
Very Pleased 80 - 85 Minutes
Acceptable: 85 - 90 Minutes
Dissapointed over 90 minutes
I will let you all know how it went on Monday
what : 4 mile easy today, 3 mile easy tomorrow
why : want to keep the FLM training in but also easing up to Sunday's 1/2 M (my first in 3 years)
last hard : Wednesday's club night
last rest : Yesterday
so for the race : Helsby 1/2M
Dream time : Sub 1h50m
Very pleased : 1hr50-1hr53
Acceptable : 1hr53-1hr56
Dissapointed : 1hr56-1hr59
Gutted : >2hr
I've done 4 1/2Ms before all between 1hr57 and 2hr02, but this is my first since taking up running properly last autumn so i'm determined to get a PB.
Good luck in everyone's own quest.
What: Rest. Just might go for a quick stretch.
Why: Tough tempo on the mill last night, racing Sunday.
Hard: Last night. At least the flat-out 5K was.
Rest: Monday.
I'm racing the Fred Hughes 10 at St Albans on Sunday, so, as requested....
1. Dream time: 1:21:59
2. Acceptable time: 1:27:00
3. Disappointed: 1:30:00
Only ever trained 10 miles, never raced it, so I don't know what the race adrenalin will do to me!
Good luck racers, and happy running everyone.
Why: Part of programme for 13 April marathon
Last hard: Tuesday pace session
Last rest: Last Friday
Simon
P.S. Wish I could find races here - it is the one thing I really miss.
Why: still feeling ill
Predictions for Sunday at Helsby -
Laura - 1:39:37, feeling fresh at finish
Mike - 1:24:18, totally knackered at finish
Drew - stay in bed as he knows it's the wise thing to do!
Good luck everyone racing at the weekend.
looks like lots of racing this weekend.
Drew,
sorry you're still not feeling right mate.
Martin H,
the 1:33:45 would be 15 miles @6:15 pace (which is my current PB pace for 1/2M from December 2002), and would definitely be a 'dream' time for a 15 miler for me ;-)
good luck to all you demon racers - hope it's going to be Dream Times all round.
congrats, MartinH, on another brilliant idea from the "onlie begetter" of the indispensable Training thread.
what: rest
why: seemed after all like the sensible thing to do - though I was actually dressed and out the door before I admitted it. oops.
last hard day: yesterday
last rest: Monday
Hope the racing goes well this weekend and proably best to rest drew.
What: 3 miles on treadmill
Why: Shedules says so
Last Hard Day: Yesterday
Last rest day: Wednesday
Planned for the weekend is a long run tomorrow, hopefully about 8-9miles but walking some of the steeper hills. Then sunday an easy 5k.
finding it hard to fit in a quality run today, due to family, work etc. So shall do a short 3 miles down to the swimming pool tonight as I have swim drill practice and it just stretches the legs out. Not too bothered as I have a planned 20 miles tomorrow that I'm looking forward to.
Get well soon Drew!
Good luck racers', looking forward to all the race reports.
Well done in showing the discipline not to train whilst ill. I personally find this very hard, but its just not worth it in the long run...
Good luck all you racing b's & g's. Wishing you PB's all round