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Sounds like the photo shoot was good fun, 90 minutes is quite a long time. Might be the start of a new career
Re the forum, I think changing the events section has been their biggest mistake and a lot of threads used to be linked to an event, hardly see any new threads re events. I don't use the event section, it's so hard to get into past the adverts and the search facility is poor. At least most of the spammers are gone, I haven't been offered a kitchen in Hull for months.
John - didn't realise there were any outdoor Velodromes, where is it?
Steve - every year the Anglo Plate is held as competition between the home nations for 50km and 100km, always a certified road course and usually a fast course so you can look out for that event, held in a different place each year. The nations enter ultra teams so you'd be running with the elite but elite ultra runners are so friendly I've got to know quite a few of them over the years. Also the Beyond the Limitations folk who organise the (rural) Gloucestershire marathon, Boddington and Cotswold events put on a 50km too, the RO used to coach the English ultra team and his events were often used for runners to qualify for European/World ultra events. When I did Boddington marathon there was a 50km that day, they had to do 2 extra laps.
Ian - GPS watches always over measure on a track and it can be so disheartening.
Are you still 'deciding' about future ultras?
Emmy - aren't you a RW mag subscriber then?
Lovely rain this morning, very pleasant but was also quite humid and that was most noticeable when the rain stopped a couple of times, just checked with Met Office and humidity was 98% when I went out for my run
We went to a bar for a drink and he asked for some fancy bottled beer that is probably readily available in London, but the staff looked at him like he had two heads. It was really funny, but probably you had to be there. After the beer, they went off to buy a pair of shorts to go for a dip in the sea, and then they went and got fish and chips before driving back. He reckoned he took probably 3-400 photos......of which Runner's World will probably use 2 or 3!
I'm not a subscriber of the mag, but I'll be buying a copy when it's out
Rest day today as I've done 53 since last Thursday.
Big G - That sounds so funny! I bet they were a bit disappointed with the 'country' beerstyle!
I only managed 5k this morning as the dogs just werent having anymore
Shades - I'll keep an eye out for that then.
Easy 8 miles this morning, legs felt heavy though!
I have an official time for my mile now: 7:52. Yeah, I was the slowest Chaser. Don't care though. I wasn't the slowest overall - I was 307th out of 332.
Emmy - have you got a marathon too this weekend?
Steve - I think the high humidity can give a run that 'heavy leg' feeling
Cal - brilliant, another couple of seconds off. Doesn't matter that you were the slowest of your club, there were all those others that didn't even have a bash at it.
Fairly cool this morning and a little light rain on my return run was gratefully received as I ran up a tough long hill this morning, fabulous views as far as Dartmoor when I got up to the top
Both my iliotibial bands have had a touch of DOMS after a great session we had in Pilates on Tuesday, felt them today running down the long hill and I suspect we might have the same session in Pilates today so that will be tough.
Shades - Hope the IT bands don't give you too many issues at pilates.
Anyway 6 miles this morning with 2m at LT pace (6:23/6:13) my quickest 2 miles at LT pace during ultra training! Legs felt much better than yesterday, so maybe it was the humidity yesterday...not sure!
Shades -Hope the IT settles down.
Tougher run today,Just 8 miles but felt harder than normal,still on track for my 200
I have a good mate who moved to Torquay from London a few years ago. He loves Torquay now, but still complains that he can't just pop out to get whatever he wants at whatever time he wants to. Some of it is a bit strange - for example, he really fancied fish and chips from his favourite chippy at 2pm on a weekday, but of course they were closed. He joked that they were closed for lunch
I did 6-miles, including two quick miles at 7:18 and 7:10. The other 4 were a lot slower. I really enjoyed the run though and it felt like good conditions for running. It's just 16 miles for the week so far but I may well do 3ish tomorrow, before driving up to MK for the race on Saturday.
I still don't know what to do about the race pace for Saturday. Part of me feels that I'm in reasonably good shape, so why not give it a crack? But another part of me thinks just take it easy as I have Gloucester the week after, and I do want to try and enjoy that one and I don't want to hobble around. I expect I'll make my mind up more-or-less on the start line, depending on weather conditions etc.
Big G - good fish and chip shops still have short/odd opening hours around here and apparently that's because they just don't need to open any longer hours than they do already.
I'm used to what it's like for shopping hours round here but always find it a shock when I go to the IOM and it can be hard to find a petrol station open latish evening, we're so used to petrol stations being more or less 24 hours. It used to be hard to find somewhere to eat on a Sunday evening in the IOM as everywhere seemed to be shut.
Re your marathon this weekend, I agree, wait and see how you feel on the day and how the weather is.
As I expected we had a similar Pilates class today my ITBs are trashed now, great work out though, she recommended the same series of stretches for knee strengthening so I must remember that if I need it.
13th March
Enigma - Milton Keynes
Big G - PB 3:54:17
2nd April
Manchester
Cal - PB 4:29:29
Ian5 - 4:29
Steve - PB 3:10:15
NickW2 - PB 3:24:59
Taunton
Shades DNS
9th April
Paris
SuzSaville82 - PB 4:26
Rotterdam
Emmy 4:42
Brighton
Louey - 4:24:45
23rd April
London
Big G - 4:00:59
Iain Love - 2:57:49
Slowkoala - 3:12:43
Southampton
Jugula - 4:21
29th April
Plym Trail
Big G - 4:29
Shades - 5:01
1st May
Belfast
Shades DNS
7th May
Great Welsh
Shades - 4:44:12
13th May
Marathon de Blaye
mamafox - 3:40 - 3rd place and she did win the wine
14th May
Hereford
Shades - 4:45:59
21st May
Worcester
Shades - 4:53:46
Leiden
Big G - 3:54:25
Emmy - 4:42:59 (including beer stops)
27th May
Saturday Night
Iain - 3:20:45 Winner
28th May
Liverpool
Cal - 4:37:52
Dorchester
Shades - 4:56:16
3rd June
Dartmoor Discovery
Shades - PB 6:32:17
11th June
Yeovil Marathon
Shades - 5:13
15th June
Dorney Lake 6 Hour
Shades - 5:29:59
17th June
Poppyline Marathon
mowzer - DNS
18th June
Enigma Clueless
Big G - 5:09:58
24th June
Giantshead
Emmy - 5:56
24th/25th June
Harp 24
mowzer - 28 miles
25th June
Boddington Marathon
Shades - 4:59:57
2nd July
Wirral Ultra
Ian5 - PB 7:01
9th July
LDWA From Here to There
mowzer 9:06
15th July
Chiltern Challenge 50km
Steve - PB 5:06
23rd July
Ironman Marathon
Iain - 3:29:54
30th July
Enigma?
Big G
6th August
Gloucester
Big G
Shades
12th August
SVP 100km
Steve
13th August
54321
mowzer
Isle of Man
Shades
20th August
Bath 2 Tunnels 50km
Shades
This year I couldn't find any decent priced accommodation, Bath is outrageously expensive and after several searches reluctantly decided to drive up on the day
At the moment race info says that 50km runners have to use the park and ride this year, I guess they start the service earlier because of the events, but final race details aren't out yet. If we do use the park and ride the bus for the 50km runners leaves at 7:15.
So you haven't missed the best prices, they were that expensive when I entered on Jan 1st.
I was reading some shoe reviews yesterday and now I have another list of shoes that I might like to try
I believe the Bath 2 Tunnels marathon is quite tough, as it goes off the nice smooth path/trail that my 50km is on, but it's popular so can't be that bad! It's annoying about the accommodation being so pricey, I'm sure that must put a lot of runners off.
Shades, they're called Reebok ZPrint 3D. Strange name, but they got good reviews and they're lightweight, which is why I thought I'd try them.
The grip on them looks really good too.
5 miles recovery today. Really enjoyed run. Lovely sunshine and saw a Red Kite flying within 100 feet of me. 2 days of rest now before my longest ever run 16 miles on Sunday. My plan is to get out at about 7am but won't have time for breakfast so I'm hoping this doesn't make the run tougher. Think I'll take 2 or 3 gels with me. Do any of you guys take gels on your longer runs ? I'm also taking a running bottle of water for these longer runs.
Shades - Nope. Wedding this weekend. I was hoping to fit in a marathon but it's not worked out due to travelling
I managed a nice little 7k to keep my legs ticking over but i'm becoming aware that i need to put some mileage in
Iain - A massive well done on your marathon leg of the iron man event. That waiting around must have been torture.
John - Welcome to the thread. Have absolutely no advice to offer other than hang around here and do exactly what Shades says. Personnally I don't take any gels/sweets on long training runs but I do for the marathon on the day.
Cal - Well done on your mile time. I've managed to avoid doing one of those thank goodness (bit like the dreaded park run).
On a shop opening note, any Londoner would have a fit coming round here. Everything closes Sundays,weekdays by 7pm and especially between 12 and 2pm. I mean we're talking tumbleweeds at lunchtimes.
Big G - It sounds as if your interview went well. It must have made all the difference in the world to have two people who set you at ease and with whom you obviously got along well. I'll try and get someone to send me out a copy of that RW once you confirm which issue it's in.
That's great news that you're doing Barcelona. I really enjoyed that marathon and it really is a fabulous course.. you see loads. And of course all those wonderful tapas to refuel on!
On a thread note, the main difference I find here is that I can't have a look at the "Hot threads" list which used to appear alongside whichever thread you were reading. It was extremely rare that I'd post on another thread but I'd often see something that looked interesting so have a quick look. Now it seems much more of an effort to scroll through different threads/discussions so I don't bother, which is a shame really.
Emmy - +1 on needing to build mileage up. I'm still stuck on 24k as my weekly long run.
Shades - That Pilates sounds tough.. how is your knee bearing up?
Having just re read my last post I would just like to point out that I don't actually leave the 6yo on his own in the house in front of cartoons when I run. His brothers/sister are also in the house but don't surface until later. Smallest child knows in event of an emergency (Needs to change tv channel etc) that his siblings are around.
Just thought I'd clear that up!
My long run stuck at 24k again last Sunday but I'm actually ok with that as I didn't feel like going out at all and in the end it went much better than the last time I did that run. I then had 3 days off for a variety of reasons before a sluggish 15k this morning. We're off to the coast for a week Saturday and I love running over there so I'm hoping that the change of running scenery will give me a bit of motivation to get some consistent decent mileage going again.
John - I'm not suggesting you change from your favourite shoes but to avoid injury you shouldn't run in the same model of shoe for every training run but have a different pair to alternate with your Pegasus. Use your favoured shoes for long runs and races.
I have 12 different shoes that I train in, but I'm an anorak when it comes to shoes and keep a spreadsheet on their mileage too
Get up earlier on Sunday and eat before your run, you didn't have a great long run last time and this is not the time to try and do a long run fasted. Banana and a cereal bar if you need something in snack form should do and you shouldn't need to leave too long between eating and setting our on your run as you'll be running at long run pace. Yes, take water too. I would suggest gels or sweets for long runs over 15 miles so take at least 2 gels with you, one to use and one for emergency in case you have an energy slump.
Emmy - never mind, I just thought that you usually combine a visit to the UK with a marathon
mamafox - I'll send you my copy of RW after I've read it, it should be out in a month's time as I had a delivery this week.
My knee seems fine, back doing my squats again this week, maybe those Pilates exercises helped.
I don't think we even considered that you were leaving your son in front of the telly on his own when you went running. I take it the party went well as you are needing recovery time.
You still have plenty of time for longer runs and hopefully the weather will be a bit cooler for long runs then.
Have a lovely holiday.
Quite dark this morning, dry where I live but ran down Big G's way and they've had rain there and must have been heavy as lots of slugs and snails on the pavements.
Big G-Nice shoes,hope you get on well with them.
Mama-24k is a great base to work from for when you start real training.
Hills today
Not doing the 10k on Sunday as couple of friends are coming up so meeting them instead,does mean I can do 10 miles before I meet them and get my 200 in by Monday.
Big G - nice colour. I hope they work out for you.
I've heard of the Two Tunnels - I'm rather interested as to how the tunnels would affect everyone's watches. I'm guessing they wouldn't work too well.
John - I do the vast majority of my runs fasted (even did Manchester Marathon without breakfast) but I'm used to it. It may be easier for women, on the whole, as we're better able to utilise our fat stores during exercise. I do use gels on longer runs (18 miles plus) but mostly to practise for marathons. I would suggest trying shorter fasted runs to see how you go before attempting anything longer. As Shades says, get up earlier and have something simple. I've found, through trial and error, that I can tolerate eating sweet rice cakes (I like Kallo blueberry and vanilla flavour) with no topping up to two hours before running, but I absolutely cannot eat anything containing fat or protein because it takes me forever to digest.
mamafox - you know, being as old as I am, I certainly remember when it was like that in London. Nothing open on Sunday except for newsagents, and Thursday was the only day shops opened during the evening. Everyone did their weekly shop on a Saturday.
4 miles easy for me today. I felt tired even though I didn't run yesterday (though I did 90 mins of Vinyasa yoga at 6.30am and then a little walking when I went to meet a friend for lunch in Covent Garden). I'm going to put that down to not getting enough sleep this week. I will make more effort to go to bed earlier today, I think.
Never mind about the 10k, not important to your training and you'll get over that 200 miles
Cal - GPS watches won't work as the tunnels are too long, I turned off the GPS before I started the event. There are 2 tunnels, which for the 50km we go through several times, the longest is over a mile long.
It's cooler here now for sleeping, hope it's the same for you too.
Must dash, off to meet a friend for coffee and cake
Big G - looking forward to seeing the article and the photos.
Hi John ((waves))
Shades - I am still a bit tired, but not a fraction of what I was when I was drinking coffee. I guess caffeine doesn't work for me!
Hope you rescued those slugs and snails
Cal - That is very early to do a very long yoga class! Lunch in Covent Garden sounds very chic, am well jealous.
I've got used to the restricted opening hours here now but the lunchtimes ones do get on my nerves, especially when they go on until past 3pm. The only places that are open pretty much all the time are bakeries, as if you have no bread over here at mealtimes then that is classed as a disaster of epic proportions.
Shades - Thank you very much for the offer of sending me your RW, that would be lovely.
Yes, the party went well. We hired a bouncy castle which all the kids loved, the parents stayed on for an aperitif afterwards and Mr Fox put his music on. He used to do some DJ ing when he was young and cool and still has an impressive selection of speakers etc. I forbid him to get the microphones out as I think it's cheesy but the rest is great. Brother in law is a big fan of ACDC so we had that blasting out until the early hours. Good job we haven't got any neighbours.
Enjoy your coffee and cake!
I've got loads to do as need to organise packing etc for tomorrow so I started off the day by a very enjoyable 10k this morning, sorted lunch out and now I'm writing this. Have organised running kit that I'm taking but must get on with the rest now!
Good running everyone, will catch up next week.
Far too many slugs and snails to rescue, I never do anyway as it's natures way of serving up breakfast for the birds
mamafox - so it wasn't just the 6 year olds that wore you out, more like the aperitif and head banging to ACDC
Enjoy your holiday.
Good luck to Big G today at a lake near Milton Keynes and all racing this weekend.
Waiting for the usual 7 o'clock booking frenzy for the Pilates class
Another hum-drum parkrun - 27:49. I was thinking about doing a 10K in August since there's one not far away that I haven't done before but I think I'd be disappointed with myself again. I had a look at last year's parkrun stats and while I did slow down a bit during the summer (no PBs between June and September), I was still running sub-27 most times. Blah. I'm going to try a different parkrun next weekend - mostly out of necessity as a folk festival on the common has meant the cancellation of my local one. But it might be nice to have a change of scene.