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MF-Great news on the caravan,has to be more comfy than a tent.
Easy 6 miles today after work,Had to consciously slow it down as my easy effort is now getting fast.
In other news I've been told my promotion is officially going through on 16th october,great timing as its a week after Chester as I'll probably have a busy couple of months so may get slightly less time to run.
Is that some some kind of Dutch pancake as you're asking Emmy.....that's a lot of sugar, is it sugar?
Cal - hope that ankle niggle goes away quickly.
There is no evidence that you are less likely to get an injury after a massage, in fact there's no evidence that massage will prevent injury and I've known folk pick up an injury after a deep tissue massage.
mamafox - great news that your foot is much improved and certainly manageable now. Good for you doing all your strength exercises and your stretching too. I've lapsed on my exercises due to my knee niggle.
The caravan could be really useful for your races
Don't know what's causing my knee niggle, hurts going upstairs and at other times, but less so running. It's intermittent so can be fine for hours then hurt again, I still think it could be a bit of loose cartilage but it just doesn't feel right. Yes, tomorrows race is the Tunnel race but I think I will DNS due to my knee, haven't finally decided yet.
Ian - brilliant news on your promotion and perfect timing, you've trained hard all year, it will do you good to back off the training for a little while and then just pick it up again for your 2018 spring marathon. Just drop to a base weekly mileage, all easy stuff to keep your aerobic base in place.
Pilates class booked, I booked dead on 7 a.m. and half the places had already gone. Haven't got a place for this Tuesday's class so hoping for a cancellation.
Looking forward to my marshalling duties today at Christow show as it's a 'proper' country show, horse classes, sheep, dog show, terrier racing etc. I'm probably too old and heavy for the donkey rides though
Sorry to hear about your knee Shades, but great news MF that you're running is going well. Is it the 55 mile P&D plan you're going to follow?
Went to see Jimmy Carr last night....he's very rude!
I'm planning a parkrun this morning, so with running to and from it, it'll be six miles at an easy pace. Then, all being well, I'll do 3 or 4 tomorrow AM, before the 10K race tomorrow evening.
I forgot Torbay 10k was an evening race, first of all I thought that's a long warm up!
I am only planning a half and 10k in November and that's it until the new year anyway as I'm always so busy in decemeber.What amount of weekly base mileage should I be looking at over that time?
In the past I probably would have tried to push through it but with four races coming up, I am not going to blow my chances for a parkrun, however nice it is outside. I'll take a few days off and see what happens.
I've just been googling my knee pain, so not a good idea. Anyway probably arthritis or just some minor runner's knee type niggle.
Bad news Cal, but well done for not carrying on. Very frustrating though
I did my parkrun and the bit before and after. I had a nice run out, saw a couple of friends, and had a chat whilst going around the course.
With tomorrow, it'll be about 50-miles this week (give or take a mile or two), but no individual runs will have been over 7-miles, so not exactly marathon training sessions! But it all helps I suppose, and as I've done a couple of double days the balance of it has meant I've been able to do 2 speed sessions (a hill repeat session and 45sec rep session) and I feel okay with no niggles. So that's probably good for 5K training, but not so good for marathon training...
I'm not too bothered about my next marathon (City to Sea) as it's not a PB course, and I'm just looking forward to the event. I think really it'll be run for 20-miles and then run/walk the rest. In training, it's taken me about 1hr45mins to do that last 6-miles, so not sure what it will be after running 20-miles!
Shades-You're right,30-35 would seem so easy these days.
Not to worried about my November races,may not get to do them depending on work but easy PB's if I can to round off a great year.
Tomorrow was going to be my last proper long run but I don't suppose it'll hurt to skip it. I've done 15 miles so the stamina's there. On the plus side, I've always done quite well in races where I've run lightly just before. In my first stab at Richmond, I'd been on holiday to Italy where I ran just three times in two weeks (though I did walk a lot), and then didn't run much the week before either. Knocked 4 minutes off my PB that time. And then Manchester Marathon I went to Dubai during my taper and didn't run at all for five days.
Of course, everything is contingent upon the ankle being OK but fingers crossed.
I ran IOM with hardly any training in the 5 weeks since my previous race due to stomach upset/knee/head cold and the longest run I'd done in that 5 week period was 10 miles and I only did that once. On race day I felt a lack of aerobic fitness but only in the early stages of the race, I felt fine and quite strong in the last few miles.
Re the last 6 miles of C2S, I expect you'll do the same or faster than you've done in training, you'll be thinking of those fish and chips. A change in terrain such as that can often freshen the legs as you're not running with the same cadence.
How's the Trotter with the 'nutrition problem' i.e. running 10k PB's in his long training runs, getting on with his training?
Cal - no need for any more long runs for you either at this stage, just need that pesky ankle to heal
Ian5 - great running and now you can plan exactly how you'll pace Lancaster, but don't repeat that long run pace too often, save the performance for race day.
Well I've DNS'd today's race, knee is slightly niggly but no worse for being on my feet a long time yesterday at the country show. I've got 2 weeks now until my next marathon, am resting again today and then will start training again tomorrow, just short easy runs and see how I get on.
The XC race went well at the show, helped with the entries and the results, we could have done with a few more entries but the runners really seemed to enjoy it. After that I stayed at the show for quite a while and it was brilliant, enjoyed the Vikings who then got kids to join in, I'm sure it's politically incorrect these days to give kids swords and let them 'kill' the Vikings but the kids loved it.
Best part was the terrier racing, didn't matter if your dog was a terrier or not but they scent a lure/hare then the owners are encouraged to whip the dogs up into a frenzy and all the dogs are released at the same time and the first dog to get the hare wins. Then the bigger dogs could have a go and then all the dogs together, which was mayhem but so funny to watch, the dogs loved it.
The whole show really was Devon at it's best right from the car park attendant in the field who said 'give it some welly up the hill' as he directed me to the top of the field.
I've no intention running a long run at that pace again,unless that eventually becomes my long pace,it was just really hard to slow with the wind,The last 5 were at MP and all felt like the right effort.
Really sorry you've had to DNS your race. Sound like it's for the best though.
Ian, those tail winds are great. Turning around and going back into a head wind is always very hard work!
I've just come back from my 3-mile run. I did 1-mile steady, 1-mile at 10K pace, 1-mile steady. The 1-mile at 10K pace was hard work!!!! From that 5K I did, the predictors say 7min/miles for a 10K (I did 6:56 for that one mile this morning) but the 5K was pancake flat, whereas there are a couple of hills in the 10K this evening. Anyway, my course record is 44:01, so let's see if I can get near that.
Something else to get hooked on, now that the Vuelta has started! I no longer have Sky/Europort so had to wait for the highlights, which I watched this morning. I see though that Eurosport have a cycling internet pass you can get for the year, which is £20 I think. I am tempted, as it would include next year's Giro as well.... Froome has set his stall out to win the Vuelta, as he's said he has changed his preparation overall to attempt to be fresher for later in the year. At the final stage finish of the TdeF he was already talking about the Vuelta, so he's obviously going to go for it.
Pity you couldn't attend that meeting, will be interesting to see what happened.
Good luck for tonight's race, we're going to get rain soon but not sure if it will last.
I've taped the Vuelta highlights too, the highlights are enough for me and I think ITV4 do a good highlight programme. I remember a lot of comment being made about Froome not having won anything this year before the TdeF and I think he wanted to show that he could. He really is a most determined character. Athletics on TV today too, but I record them and then fast forward through all the timewasting bits.
Catching up on paperwork today
8 miles completed,felt surprisingly easy after yesterday,legs a little tight for the first quarter mile then no problems,finished at my new easy pace and comfortable heart rate also.Means I finish this week with a new high of 54 miles.
I've made a note to let you know when the entries open for the Dartmoor Discovery
I've had enough of paperwork now, renewed travel insurance, bargain
With my warmup and cool down, it's 11 miles for the day and 49.6 for the week. If only I'd parked further away from the race finish, it would have been a cool 50
Interesting that that runner has tendonitis when you say he's posted no training stats. Well he's not going to get rid of tendonitis in 2 weeks, but he could walk a lot of it, I think there's a generous time limit. Of course depends where the tendonitis is, if it's achilles he shouldn't even attempt to start.
Ian - interesting bit of competition now between you and Big G now,
Watched the athletics yesterday on TV, a bit lack lustre and Mo's race was set up with no runners that could challenge him which I thought was pathetic. Then I find out that wasn't his last track race, but his last in the UK, his last is to be in Zurich. He's like a dinner guest that won't leave and go home
Short easy run this morning, glad it was short as I thought last week I'd run in humid conditions but today was like running in a sauna, just checked and humidity was 98% when I went out
I finished third Trotter which I think is my highest place, and I believe I qualified for a team prize too (3rd male team, so not a great prize as I was the slowest runner in the slowest qualifying team, but I'll take it!).
Shades, yeah I don't know what's happened with that runner. It turns out his training partner has something similar too and hasn't ran for a while either. I know we can all get injuries regardless of our training, but I can't help think it's at least partly because they train too quick all the time.
Regarding Torbay 10K, that is actually my second quickest time at a 10K - chip time was 42:53. My PB on a flat course from earlier this year is 42:37.
Regarding that quick Trotter, he did 30-miles at a comfortable 7min/miles yesterday! Heart rate really even and easy for him too. At 19, should he be doing that though - serious question. It's not for me to say anything as in a way I can see why he wants to push himself as he's obviously got talent and to be honest I admire his dedication, but I just hope he doesn't burn himself out or knacker himself. I suppose it's a balancing act there. There is a chance that we may get a couple of quicker runners from Torbay AC who will help push him on as well - they've had a falling out in that club and there seems to be a bit of mini exodus at the moment.
Yes, it is strange about Mo. Probably he had these commitments, but I think he was focussing on the World Champs. In an interview immediately after his last World Champs race he more or less said (I'm paraphrasing) "that's it - the season is over now", which I'd imagine didn't please the organisers of the other events!
That runner with tendonitis, it suspiciously sounds like he can't be bothered to train on his own, so when his mate is injured he doesn't run, he will never make a marathon runner!
Re the fast Trotter, I wouldn't advise anyone of his age to run that sort of mileage. The UKA age limit for ultras is 21 and that's there for a reason, I'm not sure some race directors are knowledgeable enough to enforce this . Of course some youngsters mature earlier than others but he doesn't look to me that he has and I believe bones still develop up to the age of 20.
Re Mo, these announcements have been made last minute, as the Worlds was going to be his last track race. I suspect it's money, this is his last chance to earn appearance money for running in an event for a while as the marathons will be less frequent.
Shades-I'm delighted to be near Big G's times,he's still a bit ahead on all I think but even keeping close is great for me.
Was planning an easy 8 today but had toothache for a few days and was hoping it would go so a trip to the dentist is in order,and I hate them,so see how that goes first.