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Shades - Agreed on finding what works. Will see how this year goes, but may even give ultras a miss in 2019 if I find I enjoy the shorter distance training. Although I do find I enjoy a long easy run rather than an LT/interval session!!As for running marathons as training runs. Isn't there some science behind it that there is little benefit of going over 20-22 miles due to the extra recovery time needed? Anyway, from my ultra training I've found they don't wipe me out so long as I run them at about 1:30 min/mile slower than race pace, granted however I only did that a few times in training and not every other weekend like Big G/Shades!!8 miles me for this morning, was meant to be 7 with strides, but switched to an easy 8, as it looked a bit frosty out and wasn't sure if it was slippy or not!