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Big G - last night's run and DD social was a really good idea as a chance to chat about the race.
Do not go out hard for the run to Ashburton that's a big mistake and explains why there are often drop outs at that point. You want to arrive at Ashburton feeling fresh, needless on to say on that stretch don't attempt to run the hill up from Badger's Holt. And when you've slogged up, IMHO the toughest section of the race, from Ashburton and arrive at Buckland on the Moor church don't forget to look at the clock face which spells out My Dear Mother, I must have ran past that 6 or 7 times before I noticed it.
That's very poor service from Running Imp re the medals, they should have sent some alternatives, Chair will have to post them out now and that'll be wasted expense, I hope Running Imp cover that cost.
Glad the shoes are OK, you just need to carry on with the carbo loading now
Iain - hope that niggle clears up in the next couple of days. I'm sure it's just a bit of post race stiffness.
Steve was already on that list.
Steve - you would love DD.
Cal - sorry to hear you had an awful night, so frustrating. Hope you are rewarded with a good night's sleep tonight and get some income soon too.
5 weeks away from my usual Thursday Pilates class and it showed today, found it quite hard.
Big G nice to win free entries/ refunds. I've won a few bits and bobs in competitions my best wins are brooks adrenaline shoes and aftershoz bone conductor earphones but I never use them.
Shades/big g I thought the drinks stations were overkill at DD too! I remember OH having a talk with high5 with the Big Marathon Challenge and they said not to take more than 3 a day as overkill (sodium mostly) will have adverse effects.
Iain, great way to get credits for races... so many don't allow you to transfer them... probably a good thing they all don't allow it as I'd probably be pimping her out to Centurion events.
Ian glad to hear to Achilles probs, nice progressive splits!
Another 6.5 miles this morning didn't feel as sluggish as yesterdays run. Ankle feeling okay, just don't think I've got full use yet, but was speaking with a physio at work who said sounds normal and could take 2 months to go back to normal.
missed half the posts...
Steve more the merrier for DD19! never done anything hilly on road so will be a new one for me.
Shades do you find Pilates helps? Think I done one class before (the day before my 1st ever race 8 years ago) but never been back... I used to go spin regularly but found myself not going much in the last year, used to believe it was good for speed work and less risk of injury but have stayed injury free and my times have improved since.
Just realised I would have been on for a sub 45 10k last night so well happy with that at the minute.
Ian- great 5k time especially after your injury struggles now you know improvement is possible.
All this talk about DD has made me take a look. The route looks brilliant and frightening at the same time. Was thinking of attempting an ultra next year just trying to get the negative thoughts out of my head if I would be capable or not. Spoke to a couple of guys at work who only run ultras who say in their opinion ultras are so much better than marathons.
6 miles today in very clamy weather which made all the midges came out and be annoying.
Easy 6 miles after work today,results are out for last night and I finished 70th out of 258 so overtook 188 runners.
Steven...I think you may have just added yourself to the list
Thanks Ian, I may just use halfs then. I'll make a decision tomorrow.
As for me, I'm chief marshal this year at one of my club's races (Haytor Heller, which is in July) so I've met with the RD this evening to go over some bits and pieces. I suppose, first things first, I'd better actually learn the course! It's a very tough off-road event on Dartmoor, and although the race is a longstanding one, the correct/exact course is a bit of a mystery to me at the moment
The RD of the Heller is also doing the DD - his second time. He's hoping for a good race as although he finished it last year, he limped the last 5-miles home as he did his achilles, so he's hoping for a better outcome on Saturday.
Big G I’m happy to run course with you.
Re Pilates, yes I find it very helpful but it takes quite a long time. I think I only started to see benefits after 6 to 12 months of one to two classes a week. Now I can still see I'm getting a stronger core as I'm able to perform some of the exercises that were too tough for me before. Effect on running has been that I no longer get any tiredness in upper body or arms after a marathon or ultra, my legs are still tired though!
Jelly - sorry to hear your Mum has been poorly again.
It is just as well you transferred your DD place, the downhills would have been too much for your shin at this stage. Next year we'll all be on that start line
steven - one tablet every drink station is probably too much. I use salt capsules and only use 2 in a marathon and 3 in a short ultra. If it was over 25 degrees I'd probably take an extra one.
You are now on the DD list for next year too
Ian - that was an impressive amount of runners that you overtook!
Big G - important to get the Heller route right, one year the runners set off the wrong way and ended up doing the route in reverse!! It all worked out OK but the marshals had a bit of a shock seeing the runners coming from the other direction.
Jelly, thanks for that. I'm not sure of the plans for running it yet, but Nige is sorting something. Also, you're right - you'll come back stronger, for sure. You're a strong runner anyway, so when you get back, you'll have learnt from this most definitely.
At a loose end today; I won't running but instead I'll mainly be eating
I've just been out for food shop and it's very humid but due to lift later and tomorrow not forecast to be humid for you. Conditions look really good for DD https://www.forecast.co.uk/princetown.html?v=per_hour
Anything below 80% is good and low humidity for the UK.
Enjoy the eating, I thought I might see you in Lidl's stocking up on the caramel wafers
My friend that's down for the weekend is picking me up at 11:30 so I wouldn't be able to get home in time.
But I'll be thinking of you, I hope you'll love the race as much as I do. We will require a detailed report at some time.
I think I'd better get out the house and go for a coffee or something.
My friend when I told him I wasn't running has changed his plans for the weekend and we're going house hunting tomorrow, starting in Bovey at noon, then a slap up lunch somewhere then onto more viewings. He's looking for a couple of small projects to flip as property is cheaper here than where he lives.
Shades, hope to have a bit more time to x train now I don't have the pressure of the distance of the marathon so spin and pilates may feature. DD will be my 1st road Ultra only done off road races past marathon distance so will be interesting to see how I find it.
Big G Good luck with the organization of the race! I've only seen snipits of my local 10miler race and its a huge operation! Think all runners should experience some kind of marshaling/ volunteering of races to appreciate everything that goes in.
Ian big number of runners to overtake well done! I'd struggle on 5k/10k races as usually go out too fast. Both Manchester and NDW I finished strong overtaking runners in the 2nd half its a good feeling.
Jelly, hope your mum settles into a routine, taking a bit of downtime will always help and not rushing back will make you stronger as you've been discussing. It's hard not to want to run all the time.
Woke up early and went to go for a run, got changed at the gym but weren't feeling a meaningless 5-7 mile plod round the same route in Stevenage so jumped on the treadmill and done a 6km interval session and some stretching. Felt good although not overly fast.
Have bought myself a Garmin Fenix 3 and Elle a Vivoactive 3 (her 40th in August), she wanted an apple watch or fitbit but I cant see the point in them, she likes the garmin apps and website so makes sense to me to get her an upgrade. Will drop it into conversation just before I tell her of my running plans next year (which I don't think are that bad).
Good luck to those training/ racing this weekend. Will keep an eye on the forum whilst away may share some sunny pics if I can!!!
I can understand why clubs pull their races as the constraints and expectations are more and more in demand. With runners demanding so much more from races demanding race nutrition, medal, shirt, constant online presence whether email or on social media and the pressures of insurance/ planning permissions as you mentioned are tougher all the time. Then you have the 'environmental side' people moaning about races leaving a footprint.... good to see you're trialling something with recycling. Also forgot to mention runners only want to pay the same as last year as they have been doing for the last 20 years making margins even tougher.
Going back to the litter at DD, the runners have to put a label on their bottle with their race number if they want it left on the course, and often we see these bottles - with the race number still attached, so the owner is identifiable - just chucked in a hedge. There was talk of DQing these runners, but the RD decided against that, as I suppose in theory it could have just been an accident (i.e., accidentally dropping a bottle and it rolling down the hill), someone else could have picked up the bottle in error at the aid station, or the wind blew it away etc. But in many cases, I think it's deliberate.
Anyway, good luck DDers and everyone else running this weekend.
Day off for me. But, hmm, I seem to have entered The Big Half again. Oops!
Big G-Best of luck for tomorrow,have a great run and enjoy it.
Hoping to do 16 or 20 tomorrow to get the long runs going again,see how I feel in the morning.
Cal, I stayed in Altrincham and ran the day after Manchester... the amount of gel wrappers on the floor was awful. This is a big race and should have a big clean up, me as a runner naively thought this and disguarded gel wrappers as fully expected there to be a proper clear up. It was either poorly done or not at all.
I was considering the big half myself but will probably do Cambridge again. (prob same date)
Robert - there are very few road ultras and this is the longest single lap race allegedly in the UK, although I think there might be a longer one in Scotland, not sure.
There is a 50 mile road race in Scotland, I'll have to forfeit IOM marathon one year to do it, I've just added it to my list.
http://events.scottishathletics.org.uk/events/20778-17754-john-lucas-50-miler